Spy Car Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'm kinda hip on the whole Jamie Oliver/Alice Water scene. My kid takes lunch, ya. How about you? Mine too. I have actually eaten way more school lunches than he has. Volunteering in the classroom makes a man hungry :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang!Zoom! Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Bill, why do you think schools (sometimes) hate parent volunteers or involvement? What do you hear where you are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Spy Car- Are you familiar with the works of Rafe Esquith? I am in love with the man. :D I am trying to work my way to be more "requiring" of my children. A year as radical unschoolers really messed us up. I do not want to be like the Tiger Mom in the book-she scares the bejeezus out of me. But I would like to work on more reliability, dependability, and higher expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Must not mention school lunch situation at current charter school. Will get mobbed. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang!Zoom! Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 This is an invisible thread. You are safe here. Spill it! Now I must go do mindless housework. Pledge. Windex. Vaccuum. I just can't take it. Darling says, what's wrong with you? I can't answer. ::sniff:: sniff:: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8001758399670384201&q=rafe+esquith This is your fault Mommymilk. I am destroyed. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Schools don't like volunteers? Really? Our school has sign up sheets and there is always a parent or two in the classroom. I don't think they mind help at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Has anybody seen 2 million minutes? http://www.2mminutes.com/about.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 This is an invisible thread. You are safe here. Spill it! Full-on professional chef who cooks from scratch. :D (With two helpers.) He makes individual changes/meals for those with food allergies. His vocabulary includes, "quinoa" and "whole grains" and "fish." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Schools don't like volunteers? Really? Our school has sign up sheets and there is always a parent or two in the classroom. I don't think they mind help at all. I LOVE when parents come to my classroom. My kids' classrooms often have parent volunteers in them, all the way through high school. However, some parents disrupt classes while volunteering. Some think it is their job to tell the teacher how to do his/her job in front of the students. There are parents who volunteer so they can correct the teacher when they think he/she makes a mistake. And if those things happen enough, especially early on in a teacher's career, the teacher will decide that no help is better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Spy Car- Are you familiar with the works of Rafe Esquith? I am in love with the man. :D I am trying to work my way to be more "requiring" of my children. A year as radical unschoolers really messed us up. I do not want to be like the Tiger Mom in the book-she scares the bejeezus out of me. But I would like to work on more reliability, dependability, and higher expectations. I am unfamiliar with Rafe Esquith. I would likely be purged from the Tiger Moms club, as I let no fun activity get passed up for sake of doing "Daddy homework." But we have still managed to be more than a year ahead in Singapore Math (with a much of other stuff thrown in) and now were are rocking with MCT. So I think one can do this after schooling thing and stil have a lot of fun. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Bill, why do you think schools (sometimes) hate parent volunteers or involvement? What do you hear where you are? I can't understand why a teacher wouldn't appreciate parent help and involvement. It makes such a big difference at our school and were parents are not just welcome but actively recruited to help in he classroom. It makes a huge difference I find it quite enjoyable to volunteer when I can. Especially when I can help teach individual children. Then it is really fun. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang!Zoom! Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 I can't understand why a teacher wouldn't appreciate parent help and involvement. It makes such a big difference at our school and were parents are not just welcome but actively recruited to help in he classroom. It makes a huge difference I find it quite enjoyable to volunteer when I can. Especially when I can help teach individual children. Then it is really fun. Bill You are going to put me in the nuthouse. For reals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang!Zoom! Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Full-on professional chef who cooks from scratch. :D (With two helpers.) He makes individual changes/meals for those with food allergies. His vocabulary includes, "quinoa" and "whole grains" and "fish." zip code please? :auto: lol DANG! That is impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang!Zoom! Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Has anybody seen 2 million minutes?http://www.2mminutes.com/about.asp Part 1: http://vimeo.com/1091538 Part 2: http://vimeo.com/1091662 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 zip code please? :auto: lol DANG! That is impressive! :lol: I love Utah charter schools. Public funding but they really seem to care what they DO with that same funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 You are going to put me in the nuthouse. For reals. I've done my share of "menial" tasks too. It is amazing how much work does on to keep a classroom function at full tilt. But recently I was there at math-time and a number of students were struggling doing their two digit sums. I went around and talked to individual kids about the idea of "making tens." I would ask them "how many Units does this 8 need to be a Ten?" And they Would blink a couple times and say "2". And if the 7 gives up 2 so the 8 become a Ten what is left? "5". Right! So we made how many Tens? One. And We have How many Units? 5. Right! And we did the same for the Tens place, and the kids who once lost were suddenly flying. That was a fun day! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang!Zoom! Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 On charters: I am a charter "widow". I l.o.v.e.d. the charter I was involved in. I was involved in it from "just an idea" to the full stage of it running. What a freakin' ball. Parents at the charter were in the parking lot by 6 a.m. looking for work. Real work. Whatever needed done. Nothing too high, nothing too low. You want your floor washed? I'm your girl. You want grant writing help? I'd love to. Need a car for car pool? I'm available. Whatever idea those teachers came up with, had a built in slave task force to back it up. And networking between parents? UNBELIEVABLE. Now today I get begged to buy candy bars twice a week as my highest parental involvement or function. Gah. BOO! The charter also was involved in the SCRIP program, it was like a religion for fund raising. I wish they had that here, at least I'd feel useful. They want nothing to do with parents here. Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 On charters: I am a charter "widow". I l.o.v.e.d. the charter I was involved in. I was involved in it from "just an idea" to the full stage of it running. What a freakin' ball. Parents at the charter were in the parking lot by 6 a.m. looking for work. Real work. Whatever needed done. Nothing too high, nothing too low. You want your floor washed? I'm your girl. You want grant writing help? I'd love to. Need a car for car pool? I'm available. Whatever idea those teachers came up with, had a built in slave task force to back it up. And networking between parents? UNBELIEVABLE. Now today I get begged to buy candy bars twice a week as my highest parental involvement or function. Gah. BOO! The charter also was involved in the SCRIP program, it was like a religion for fund raising. I wish they had that here, at least I'd feel useful. They want nothing to do with parents here. Nothing. :grouphug::grouphug: That would be a hard change. I'm hoping dh gets into the grad school in the adjoining town when that time comes so we can stay here longer with this awesome school. Anywhere else and we will probably be homeschooling again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang!Zoom! Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Sorry, off on a surf, found this. Those of you following a special feeling tucked away in the secret not.a.tiger thread will enjoy this. It's short. http://www.notonthetest.com/index.html (makes noise, so be prepared) This could be the national anthem of homeschoolers. Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I am unfamiliar with Rafe Esquith. I would likely be purged from the Tiger Moms club, as I let no fun activity get passed up for sake of doing "Daddy homework." But we have still managed to be more than a year ahead in Singapore Math (with a much of other stuff thrown in) and now were are rocking with MCT. So I think one can do this after schooling thing and stil have a lot of fun. Bill http://www.amazon.com/Lighting-Their-Fires-Extraordinary-Muddled-up/dp/0143117661/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1311518074&sr=8-4 This is an excellent book. He's near your neck of the woods. I love his books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 http://www.amazon.com/Lighting-Their-Fires-Extraordinary-Muddled-up/dp/0143117661/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1311518074&sr=8-4 This is an excellent book. He's near your neck of the woods. I love his books. The preview looks quite interesting. :001_smile: Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) I stumbled upon this "invisible" thread while looking for reviews of MCT's "Classics in the Classroom." Anyone still interested? My husband is a Tiger Mother and so by virtue of supporting him, I'm certainly Tiger-Mother influenced. So I have borrowed the book and am going to read it. Compared with some local public schoolers and even many local homeschoolers I may be a Tiger Mother but not compared to the greater world of TWTM scholars. (I prefer the term "home scholars", e.g.) At least I don't think so because I falter some days because of my own chronic illness. However, we have daily discipline - if we are able to be up and out of bed we are able to get certain essential things done no matter what. Sure, if I or my ds have a fever of 102 we lie down, but otherwise Math, grammar, reading, Latin, Spanish, handwriting and spelling all get done. I like the earlier reference to "Education, Ethics and Expectations." I will have to read and consider whether I am willing to go to the extremes of a Tiger Mom... Edited September 29, 2011 by Jill tidied up commas, my bane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenbrdsly Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Sorry, off on a surf, found this. Those of you following a special feeling tucked away in the secret not.a.tiger thread will enjoy this. It's short. http://www.notonthetest.com/index.html (makes noise, so be prepared) This could be the national anthem of homeschoolers. Amen. :lol::lol::lol: So funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Texican Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 "Oak Grove Independent Study Program* Polymath Enrichment & Executive Function Hothouse Education. *Expectations. *Ethics." I just added that into my theme at my, well, I don't know what it is yet. My kids aren't in school yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I think Tiger mom can mean different things to different people. In our case, it's our desire to raise well-educated, hard working, responsible and cultured human beeings. If my kids were getting the kid of education I want in school, I wouldn't be doing anything extra but music. Unfortunately the reality is very different. What they choose in life is their decision, but I want to be able to say that I did all that I could and knew how to do to prepare them for life. I want them to develop a lifelong love for good literature and music, two things that I firmly believe will enrich their lives. I want them to understand that learning is a lifelong pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) :lol::lol::lol: So funny! That wasn't my reaction. I found it too true to see the humor in it. Edited September 30, 2011 by WordGirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartosunshine Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 That wasn't my reaction. I found it too true to see the humor in it. :iagree: It makes me sad for the kids in school now, knowing how unprepared they'll be. Remember, most kids don't have parents that afterschool or even take more than a passing interest in their education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetic license Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I stumbled upon this "invisible" thread while looking for reviews of MCT's "Classics in the Classroom." Anyone still interested? My husband is a Tiger Mother and so by virtue of supporting him, I'm certainly Tiger-Mother influenced. So I have borrowed the book and am going to read it. Compared with some local public schoolers and even many local homeschoolers I may be a Tiger Mother but not compared to the greater world of TWTM scholars. (I prefer the term "home scholars", e.g.) At least I don't think so because I falter some days because of my own chronic illness. However, we have daily discipline - if we are able to be up and out of bed we are able to get certain essential things done no matter what. Sure, if I or my ds have a fever of 102 we lie down, but otherwise Math, grammar, reading, Latin, Spanish, handwriting and spelling all get done. I like the earlier reference to "Education, Ethics and Expectations." I will have to read and consider whether I am willing to go to the extremes of a Tiger Mom... :grouphug: It's a relief to see other homeschoolers who share the same struggle to home educate through chronic illness. My husband was told by someone "Guess now that your wife has MS, she won't be able to homeschool." :glare: ETA: I just realized that this is the afterschooling board. Well, I'm hybrid afterschooling/homeschooling so I guess it's cool :P I'm actually having more trouble healthwise doing school & homeschool than I was with just homeschool. Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebekahnDavidMom Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Hi there! I didn't get a chance to read all of the posts so maybe this question has already been asked and answered, but what is a Tiger Mom? Just wondering. I am probably one, so I'd like to know what it is so I can join in on the fun, lol Andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Blessings Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I want to preface this with: I haven't read the book. I've only read parts of the book and op eds from newspapers, etc. I have also talked with MANY moms here that consider themselves to be "tiger moms" based on their reading of the book. When dh and I first heard about it, we discussed our current situation. We work with Chinese Indonesians. They consider themselves Chinese before they consider themselves Indonesia, kwim? Anyway, we considered the folks we know here and how many of them are tiger-moms/dads. What has this done for them? Well, in many cases it has given them the academic edge that is lacking in most of the western (U.S., Australia) kids at the same school. The work ethic here is very different than what we experienced in the U.S. (we worked at private schools there). At the lower grades, the parents are asking for more homework, they have the kids involved in nearly every extra curricular you can imagine, and every 6 to 12th grade student has a math tutor that works with them at least twice a week (not to help with existing homework, but to give them more work). On the other hand, they are a shame-based culture. Everyone, old or young, operates on avoiding shame. Ranking is very important, and appearances are everything (no matter what is underneath). I am inspired to require more from my own children because of these people, but I am hesitant to go for appearances and shame. A healthy dose of reality (read: sometimes that includes a feeling of shame) is important. Loving family relationships are important. Using your God-given talents is important. I believe it is more than one of these in isolation, it is all of them in appropriate doses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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