Karen sn Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) and yet I don't need to have an English major to get it? I need a basic book with a list of words to teach and the rules behind them. I want a book that explains WHY ch says "k" in school but "ch" in chair. And so the list for that lesson would have words that practice those rules. I want basic lesson plans right there in front of me and I don't need to read 300 pages before I even start!!!!!!!!!! (ie The Writing Road to Reading). That book was ridiculous! I understand that now they have a lesson plan - anyone use it? Opinions on it? I am using Sequential Spelling - it's ok I think, but not for me. I want EXPLANATIONS!!!!!!!! ETA: Dd is 11. I need something for an older kid and I'm not spending 60 bucks on all the fluff that you have to buy to use the book. I want one book for $20 or less. Edited February 23, 2009 by Karen sn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy in Indy Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 All About Spelling is rule based. It's incremental, includes lots of review and gives clear rules that kids understand. (And when there's rule breakers, you throw them in "jail.") You can see samples at allaboutspelling.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchfire Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Yep, I think All About Spelling is what you're looking for. Incidentally, I have learned so much about spelling as I've taught my daughter. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 We have found the book "The ABCs and All Their Tricks" to be a great resource for explaining the why of each sound a letter can make, plus a list of words which demonstrate that sound, going from simple single syllable words to difficult multi-syllable words. It also lists exceptions, and often lists how many words in the English language use that sound pattern. See the table of contents and sample pages at: http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=0621494&netp_id=133713&event=ESRCN&item_code=WW&view=covers If you are having success with your current spelling program, then consider adding "The ABCs and All Their Tricks" as a reference resource for yourself. We've been using "The ABCs and All Their Tricks" to create our own spelling program. BEST of luck in finding what will help you most! Warmly, Lori D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usetoschool Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Spellography is the closest I have come to a spelling program with the reasons and logic behind the spelling rules. It explains some of the word history and reasons for the spellings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanna Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Spellography??? Now theres one I havent heard before! :) Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alte Veste Academy Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) We have found the book "The ABCs and All Their Tricks" to be a great resource for explaining the why of each sound a letter can make, plus a list of words which demonstrate that sound, going from simple single syllable words to difficult multi-syllable words. It also lists exceptions, and often lists how many words in the English language use that sound pattern. Yes, this book is wonderful. From your post title, I thought you were just looking for a book and clicked to recommend this one. The body of your post makes it seem like you would like to be able to pick and go when teaching spelling, in which case the AAS curriculum would be perfect, as others have noted. With just the ABC Tricks book, you would have to make up your own plan. Good luck! Edited February 23, 2009 by Alte Veste Academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Apples is a workbook page a day on 1 particular rule. My 3rd grader does it easily and it reinforces spelling for him.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) How To Teach Spelling TM has the same information as AAS. It is not as easy to use with your kids as AAS. The Phonics Road, WRTR, SWR and Orton-Gillingham all give the reasons behind the rules (This is a french derivative, etc.), and some of these have books in the library. Edited February 23, 2009 by Lovedtodeath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wildberrys Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I second Apples---in a short lesson every day it teaches all the rules. We tried SS---and honestly, I just don't get the "raves" about it...............:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usetoschool Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Spellography??? Now theres one I havent heard before! :)Do you have a link? http://store.cambiumlearning.com/resource.aspx?page=ProgramOverview&site=sw&parentId=019005495 You have to search for the workbooks elsewhere but they will sell you the Teacher Resource Guide without a school purchase order. And an interesting article about spelling (that I think ElizabethB will like re: Webster) http://www.aft.org/pubs-reports/american_educator/issues/winter08_09/joshi.pdf Edited February 23, 2009 by jcooperetc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lovedtodeath Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 For CH as /k/ HTTS says, "In these words of Greek derivation, ch has the sound /k/. The best way for students to learn these words is to memorize them. Then test them with the following dictation." There are then lists of words, phrases, and sentences for copywork and dictation. So that gives you an idea of how HTTS goes about it. The lesson is recommended for grades 5-12. The TM covers grades 1-12, but the majority of the lessons are for 3rd grade and up. I got mine on half.com for $4. I have seen it on paperbackswap too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I love All About Spelling because it's easy to use and gives clear explanations and rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Could someone give an example of a rule and its explanation? I am wondering if there is more to it than what I already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I second "ABC's and All Their Tricks," it's a great reference. You could watch my online spelling lessons with your daughter, that teaches a lot of the rules, there are 5 of them, a bit more than 20 minutes each on average, they range from 19 to 27 minutes each. http://www.thephonicspage.org/On%20Spelling/spellinglessonsl.html From this thread, Lori D has links to the best lists of spelling rules online: http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77560 I also like M.K. Henry's Words for an older child, it combines spelling with language study, breaking things out by language, so you're covering several things at once. I haven't seen HTTS, but from LovedtoDeath's quote, I'm going to have to buy a copy, it sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I haven't seen HTTS, but from LovedtoDeath's quote, I'm going to have to buy a copy, it sounds great. So does that sound like enough? I guess I was expecting more depth to the explanation and wondering if The Phonics Road and the like had more to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestavern Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Anyone know where you can see sample pages of Apples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabel Lee Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Just chiming in with another enthusiastic recommendation for All About Spelling. It doesn't leave anything out. I suspect that since your dd is 11 you could skip level 1, but I'd look at the samples online to be sure. We just started using it and both of my boys begged for more. It doesn't feel tedious and it does give all the explanations; the "hows and whys". HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Anyone know where you can see sample pages of Apples? Go here and click on samples:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If you just want a single, inexpensive book, then I'd recommend The ABCs and All Their Tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Another recommendation for All About Spelling. It is a wonderful program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2abcd Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 http://store.cambiumlearning.com/resource.aspx?page=ProgramOverview&site=sw&parentId=019005495 You have to search for the workbooks elsewhere but they will sell you the Teacher Resource Guide without a school purchase order. And an interesting article about spelling (that I think ElizabethB will like re: Webster) http://www.aft.org/pubs-reports/american_educator/issues/winter08_09/joshi.pdf Great links!!!! Thanks. For Spellography do you need the student lesson workbook, the teacher answer guide, and the teacher resource guide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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