SereneHome Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) I am truly at a loss with my oldest - he will be in 6th grade next year. We do AAS and he does fairly well during lessons / dictation. He reads a TON. We just finished annual testing and I almost fainted when I saw his answers. So, what do I do? Again, for reference, I didn't grow up in US and we didn't have "spelling" as a subject. I didn't know ANY spelling rules until I opened AAS to teach the kids and I spell fairly well, but I have no idea how that happened, so... ANY ideas, suggestions, thoughts?? ETA: just to be clear, I wasn't THAT surprised by his test results bc when he is writing not during his spelling lessons, his spelling is pretty bad. But he missed some very simple words on the test....like "carpet". He thought it was "carpit" Edited June 21, 2019 by SereneHome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historically accurate Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I have a daughter with dysgraphia, and her spelling was atrocious. She started to get it in 4th grade with AAS after many different programs that failed, but it wasn't until we used Apples and Pears that she caught on enough to figure out a word closely enough to let spellcheck work. She will never be a great speller, but it's ok now (she's a high school junior). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaqui Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, SereneHome said: ETA: just to be clear, I wasn't THAT surprised by his test results bc when he is writing not during his spelling lessons, his spelling is pretty bad. But he missed some very simple words on the test....like "carpet". He thought it was "carpit" Well, that's how we say it, and it's not a word he's likely to have had to write very often, or even one he's read very often. My perspective is skewed, but that particular error wouldn't make me think "Wow, what bad spelling!" in a 6th grader. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SereneHome Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, Tanaqui said: Well, that's how we say it, and it's not a word he's likely to have had to write very often, or even one he's read very often. My perspective is skewed, but that particular error wouldn't make me think "Wow, what bad spelling!" in a 6th grader. Well, if it was the only word, I wouldn't blink an eye, but he got 12 words wrong out of 30. That made me pause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaqui Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I see it now. And I presume this more or less accurately reports the amount of errors when he is writing, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 What is his spelling like when he writes? That is the only thing you should be concerned about. I wouldn't ditch AAS (and if he's on level wouldn't he be almost done?), but if you're concerned, you might want to add something like Sequential Spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuovonne Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Was the spelling portion of annual testing a multiple choice test? A multiple choice spelling test is very different from other spelling activities. One of my DD’s is a struggling speller and the other is a natural speller. Multiple choice spelling tests did not reflect either of their abilities accurately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewelma Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 We worked intensively on spelling with my younger until he was 15. At that point he was only misspelling 10% of all words he used in his writing, and we switched to correcting and learning words as he wrote. Some kids just have it tough. He gets it from my dad, who carried a spelling list in his pocket until he was 35. Back then, there was no spell check and spelling was an indicator of education, so he had to just keep working on it over multiple decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 My 2nd DS was an atrocious speller. I've told this story before on these boards, but he once spelled the same simple word wrong in 3 different ways in 1 paragraph! 🙄 No spelling program I tried worked, so I threw up my hands and gave up and told him he's going to have to have a good editor and heavily rely on spell check. He's now a senior and while he's still not a great speller, he's tons better than he was and his written work is fine. Sometimes it just takes a little maturity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisoncooks Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 My rising 6th grader is a terrible speller. I try to remember that her sister was the same until about 6th/7th grade, and to stay the course with Apples & Pears...but yeah, it's shockingly bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 On June 21, 2019 at 5:42 PM, SereneHome said: Well, if it was the only word, I wouldn't blink an eye, but he got 12 words wrong out of 30. SWR includes a bunch of spelling diagnostic tests. You might run another test before you conclude too much. This was on a standardized test? Who administered it? Was he tired and in need of a break? Was there noise or distraction? Was he hungry? Some kids just have to work at it more than others. My dd had crunchy spelling, read well, and I was like see she's dyslexic. Well actually she does have one allele (heterozygous) for a known dyslexia gene. But in her case she had extremely poor visual memory (a developmental vision problem, needed VT) and was just crunchy. After the VT her visual memory improved and we went through everything again. To me, the error in carpit/carpet is a combo of how you say it regionally and visual memory. He either hasn't seen it much or didn't remember what it looked like. So it's always good to have the dc's vision checked, sure. And I would find another spelling diagnostic to get more info on exactly where he is. There could be more going on, sure. Sometimes spelling is the way dyslexia most becomes apparent on kids, as they'll seem to read fine. But I would just start conservatively, running another (free) tool, looking for the patterns to his spelling errors, and getting his vision checked, hopefully by a developmental optometrist. Does he have any other issues with the sound/speech connection, difficulty understanding in background noise, difficulty with rhyming or phonological processing skills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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