StaceyinLA Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 What order do you use them in? We have the anatomy one someone gave us, and my dd was thinking of loosely using it for K with dgs. I'm noticing they have new junior notebooking journals, so I'm wondering if it would work for him. He LOVES doing lap booking and stuff, and I usually do that kind of stuff with him since dd has 2 younger children too and can't always make all that mess. We are using the book to make a little lap book, but I'm thinking he might like the younger kids journal. I'm curious though, whether there is an order that makes more sense, and hoping to get some advice. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 What order do you use them in? We have the anatomy one someone gave us, and my dd was thinking of loosely using it for K with dgs. I'm noticing they have new junior notebooking journals, so I'm wondering if it would work for him. He LOVES doing lap booking and stuff, and I usually do that kind of stuff with him since dd has 2 younger children too and can't always make all that mess. We are using the book to make a little lap book, but I'm thinking he might like the younger kids journal. I'm curious though, whether there is an order that makes more sense, and hoping to get some advice. Thanks! I can't speak to advice on order, but if you have a Mardel near you you can get flip through the Jr. Notebook to see if it's what you want. I decided against it for K because it was more writing than we were ready for and I didn't think the activities for the one I looked at (Astronomy) were all that neat for the price. I could Pinterest that part for free. I love the regular notebooks for older kids, but wasn't impressed with the Jr. edition. Of course ymmv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyinLA Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Thanks for the input. I don't have the option of seeing them in person, but I may rethink them if they aren't that impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milknhoney Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 There isn't a specified order, but some of them contain more challenging concepts than others. I didn't actually read the anatomy book because ds was working independently by the time we got to it (grade 5), but my feeling was that it was too advanced for K. And actually, dd was in K at that time, and what I did was just check out books from the library that were on her level that corresponded to whatever chapter ds was in. I've only bought the Jr. journal for the Flying Creatures book. It has handwriting pages for the student to write narrations in, which my kids at least would not have used in K. It had coloring pages and some copywork pages. It had booklists for extra reading. I cannot remember if the jr. book had the lapbooking cutouts in them. Even at grade 3, which is what year I bought the jr journal for, I didn't really like it. My son actually needed MORE pages for his narrations (because he loves science), and he didn't care about the coloring pages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I agree, my dd used Anatomy in 6th grade...not sure I'd want to use it for K (actually I think they are all a bit wordy for K, but maybe for a science-lover. Astronomy seems "younger" to me and would probably be an easier fit for a K student). There's not a specified order, except they do recommend doing the zoology books in order. To me, the series is closer to 2nd-6th, but maybe K or 1st for a tag-along sibling or a child who really wants more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschickie Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 The Anatomy book is really meant for older kids 5th or 6th grades. Either the Astronomy book or the Zoology books are best for younger ages. The Jr. Journals are very nice. There are pages for them to color and also areas to write. There are some cut and paste things too, like a lap book. They jr journals are geared towards k-2/3rd and then the regular journals 3rd/4th and up. It really depends on the ability of the child. For k though you really do not need a full curriculum unless you really want one. You could just use something like the Usborne Big Book of Science Experiments and just do some fun things without it being so formal. I really would not start a formal curriculum till first or second grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelylearned Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 The notebooking journals have pretty good library book lists to go along with the lessons, beautiful coloring pages, a vocabulary activity, handwriting pages ,extra project ideas and a cut and paste activity per lesson. If I had to go back, I'd get my Kindergartener a Dover coloring book and a primary composition book for drawing a picture from the lesson and then letting her dictate a sentence to me until she gets older and skip the Jr Notebooking Journal. I'm on the fence on if I'd get the notebooking journal for my older son if I could go back. He'd probably be OK with a composition book for notebooking and a stack of library books for extra reading. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2_girls_mommy Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I really like the notebooks, but any student who still needs the jr. notebook may be too young for the Apologia series or for the notebooking aspect of it. We started with a regular notebook for my 3rd grader. It was a bit much in the definition department, so I cut some of the writing for her. It didn't have the coloring pages, so maybe the jr. one may have been best for her first year in 3rd grade. But it had great book lists and activity ideas. The first year, I confess we did Flying Creatures most of the year with just the notebook and other bird books we had on hand and the library lists and activities from the notebook and library books instead of buying the text. For what order, we have tried to stick with WTM science cycles, so the we have used the Flying Creatures one in a biology year, the astronomy one in the space/earth year, the chemistry/physics one in our chemistry year. We did the anatomy one in 6th grade which was another biology year for us, and have done animals and plants and Earth science not using Apologia, but using other materials. And like I said, we didn't use it before 3rd grade, and didn't use the text before 4th grade. My dd really really gets a lot of use out of the notebooking journals, so we have used one every year that we did Apologia. This year we are using a different science, so we are notebooking on our own with some different resources. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal_Bear Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I read Fulbright's notes about sequence and using the series. She recommends Astronomy or Botany first. Then the Zoology series. Leaving Physics/Chem or Human Anatomy for last. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 We've read all the books except for the astronomy and chem/physics (that's the newer one). Every time we've bought the notebooking journals, it became overwhelming and we couldn't finish them. My oldest two absolutely hated to write at that stage. The Swimming Creatures note booking journal was pretty cool, though. I'm reading the Anatomy book with a 6th grader and that seems about right. There is a huge chapter on cells and organelles that would probably be over a Kindergartener's head. If I had to rank them in terms of easiest to most difficult (from what I remember - Lol)... Astronomy Flying Creatures Land Animals Swimming Creatures Botany Anatomy & Physiology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyinLA Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Thank you all for the input. We aren't really using the Anatomy to its full potential by any means. I am basically using it as a little guide to teach him some basic body stuff and do a lap book that is age appropriate. He just LOVES making lap books and doing all that cutting/pasting, putting stuff together, etc., and the idea of the bones fascinates him, so I thought I would just help him do one that's about the bones. I just happened to see those junior notebooks and wondered if that would bring it down to his level. I think after this little unit on the bones, I'll pick up the astronomy and use it loosely to make a lap book, or I may just skip it all together and wait til next year to get him anything like that. This is my dgs and my dd is home schooling, but I get him for his "crafts," and I try to use that time to do stuff like this with him because he enjoys it, and it's the type of stuff dd really doesn't have time for with 2 other little ones at home. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2_girls_mommy Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Thank you all for the input. We aren't really using the Anatomy to its full potential by any means. I am basically using it as a little guide to teach him some basic body stuff and do a lap book that is age appropriate. He just LOVES making lap books and doing all that cutting/pasting, putting stuff together, etc., and the idea of the bones fascinates him, so I thought I would just help him do one that's about the bones. I just happened to see those junior notebooks and wondered if that would bring it down to his level. I think after this little unit on the bones, I'll pick up the astronomy and use it loosely to make a lap book, or I may just skip it all together and wait til next year to get him anything like that. This is my dgs and my dd is home schooling, but I get him for his "crafts," and I try to use that time to do stuff like this with him because he enjoys it, and it's the type of stuff dd really doesn't have time for with 2 other little ones at home. I can't wait to be the homeschooling grandma that gets to help do this kind of stuff! That's so cool that you are doing that for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 We're using them. I've got all four kids doing science at the same time, so my kindy is right along in there. We're doing Swimming Things and both my second grader and kindy are using the junior notebooks! Personally, I wouldn't start Apologia with just a kindergartener. It is a lot of reading and I think a older child would appreciate and understand and learn more. My advice would be to wait. When my older kids were little we read a lot of those "Let's Read and Find Out" books. I think those are great for that age, they help with scientific literacy, which is really what you want at that age. Then you can make lap books or whatever that go along with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I think they are meant to be used in the order of the days of creation, and get progressively more difficult through the levels. Astronomy Botany Zoology 1 (Flying Creatures) Zoology 2 (Swimming Creatures) Zoology 3 (Land Animals) Human Anatomy & Physiology 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2_girls_mommy Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I think they are meant to be used in the order of the days of creation, and get progressively more difficult through the levels. Astronomy Botany Zoology 1 (Flying Creatures) Zoology 2 (Swimming Creatures) Zoology 3 (Land Animals) Human Anatomy & Physiology Well, that makes sense. I never thought about it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janeway Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 They are meant to be done in order that they were written basically. Botany and Astronomy first, doesn't matter which order. Then the Zoology books. And then the Human Anatomy and Physiology and Physics/Chemistry in whichever order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahamamama2 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) We have all the Apologia elementary science books. I might use Zoology 1 for Kindergarten (as a read aloud), but I wouldn't use Anatomy for Kindergarten, with or without a notebooking component. For Kindergarten, I would read these: http://www.harpercollinschildrens.com/Kids/SeriesDetail.aspx?PSId=223 http://www.harpercollinschildrens.com/Kids/SeriesDetail.aspx?PSId=224 Rainbow Resource has sets. I might also look in my library for Gail Gibbons books related to science: http://www.gailgibbons.com/otherbooks.html There are teacher resources on her website (I haven't used those). We read so many of her books when my kids were that age. If we wanted to study anatomy in Kindergarten -- hey! we did that, LOL! -- I would use this book to make a life-sized "body" of the child: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Science-Books-Patty-Carratello/dp/1557342113 There was another cut-and-paste body book that we used, but I can't find it this morning. You could make a "Cell Mobile" (various types of cells), a mini-book on the brain.... Ah, here it is, I found it! https://shop.scholastic.com/shop/en/teacherstore/product/Easy-Make--Learn-Projects-Human-Body HTH. Edited October 8, 2016 by Sahamamama2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyinLA Posted October 8, 2016 Author Share Posted October 8, 2016 We have all the Apologia elementary science books. I might use Zoology 1 for Kindergarten (as a read aloud), but I wouldn't use Anatomy for Kindergarten, with or without a notebooking component. For Kindergarten, I would read these: http://www.harpercollinschildrens.com/Kids/SeriesDetail.aspx?PSId=223 http://www.harpercollinschildrens.com/Kids/SeriesDetail.aspx?PSId=224 Rainbow Resource has sets. I might also look in my library for Gail Gibbons books related to science: http://www.gailgibbons.com/otherbooks.html There are teacher resources on her website (I haven't used those). We read so many of her books when my kids were that age. If we wanted to study anatomy in Kindergarten -- hey! we did that, LOL! -- I would use this book to make a life-sized "body" of the child: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Science-Books-Patty-Carratello/dp/1557342113 There was another cut-and-paste body book that we used, but I can't find it this morning. You could make a "Cell Mobile" (various types of cells), a mini-book on the brain.... Ah, here it is, I found it! https://shop.scholastic.com/shop/en/teacherstore/product/Easy-Make--Learn-Projects-Human-Body HTH. Thank you for this! VERY helpful! Dgs really wants to do something about the body/bones, so these will really help! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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