Connections Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is there a downside to designating classes on a homeschool transcript as Honors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie of KY Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I choose not to label any of my classes as "honors" since it implies that my other classes are not honors. It would be easy for me to label and justify that AoPS precalculus is an honors precalculus course, but it would be harder to prove that my homegrown English course is also honors even if it is just as rigorous as a well-known course. I've left off all designations except outsourced AP courses. Edited January 19, 2016 by Julie of KY 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Can't think of a downside… But… I would take into consideration a few things when making this decision: - Make sure it really is "honors" level. (Honors means things like: more material move through the material at a faster pace more rigorous textbook / coursework more writing on tests, research papers, etc. more projects more higher-level discussion harder tests/papers/projects, requiring more in-depth analysis and higher-level thinking less handholding by teacher / more independent working and taking responsibility by the student optional: midterm and semester end tests may be weighted to be worth more of the overall semester grade than for a regular class.) - As much as possible, make sure the rest of the student's transcript supports the student working at Honors level. (In other words, the student takes other Honors courses in other subject areas, as possible, but especially, the student continues to build on Honors level in their strong subject area, and NOT coast. So if the student takes Honors English in 10th grade, then the student can likely branch out and try Honors History courses (which also require similar strengths in reading, writing, and discussion/analysis. But esp., the student should take equally high or higher English classes for 11th and 12th grades: Honors English; AP English; or dual enrollment college class English. The student would NOT go back to regular English for 11th and 12th grades -- unless the student experiences a serious set-back, such as long illness or injury recovery, or a family crisis circumstance.) - Don't bother with the Honors designation if the student didn't score an A or B in the Honors class. (Getting a "C" or "D" looks average or bad on a transcript, whether the class was Honors or not. Instead, if the student scores low, but really tried hard, and if there was a significant jump in volume and rigor of material from regular to Honors, I would be tempted to re-grade the student's material and grant bonus points for all the extra material (which would likely boost the student's low grade) and call the class a regular (non-Honors) class.) - Don't expect Honors classes to increase odds of college admission or college scholarships. (Because Honors designation varies so widely from school to school, and really vary for homeschoolers, colleges have no way of knowing exactly how much rigor "Honors" means, so they tend to not weight Honors classes very heavily. If you want that boost for your student, AP test scores are the standard for showing rigor and high level of work. Dual enrollment college courses or CLEP test scores can show advanced level of work as well -- as with Honors classes, it will depend on the college admissions office whether or not these are given much weight or not.) - Consider the alternatives of test scores to show high level of work, rather than Honors. (It's hard to alter or argue with national tests as a standard, so high scores on SAT Subject tests, AP tests, and SAT/ACT tests are going to be more valuable in the eyes of college admission offices on the transcript than an Honors designation.) I've mostly included reasons why Honors designation might not matter much to colleges. One reason TO put Honors designation is to respect the student and their dedicated work. If your student truly worked extra hard and went extra deep, and did so largely voluntarily and independently, the student deserves permanent transcript acknowledgement of that, IMO. BEST of luck in your transcript adventures, whatever you decide. :) Warmest regards, Lori D. Edited January 19, 2016 by Lori D. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGrief Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I tend to agree with Julie's thoughts above. I think of "Honors" as a relative designation within a specific school. They have courses geared toward the average student, then some courses are called "Honors" to indicate an increased level of difficulty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 What do you think about outside/online courses that are designated Honors by the provider? Youngest dd is probably going to do a mix of CC and online, but I'm thinking of using DO for some of the online courses, and I see he has an Honors designation for most of the classes... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 What do you think about outside/online courses that are designated Honors by the provider? Youngest dd is probably going to do a mix of CC and online, but I'm thinking of using DO for some of the online courses, and I see he has an Honors designation for most of the classes... JMO, but I would list a course on the transcript exactly as it is entitled by the provider (as well as copy-paste the provider's course description), in case the college admission office decides to go looking for the course. Makes it easier for them, and shows that you are legit. And it's just easier for you, as well, not having to make up a course title. ;) So, yes, call the online course "Honors" if that's what the provider calls it. JMO. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGrief Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 My daughter did the honors option for precalc when we used Derek Owens, but I did not list it as honors. I think it would be fine to do so though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpedIntoTheDeepEndFirst Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I only listed courses as honors when they were designated as that by an outside provider. I think you can give enough explanation in a course description to show how challenging the work is without worrying about how valid adding honors to the title would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I haven't seen a downside. The biggest upside is that some colleges accept weighted grades for scholarship purposes. The difference between a 3.2 and a 3.5 can translate into a substantial amount of money. This is not the case for all schools, of course, but it can't hurt and might help. We were told (by the colleges) that it's absolutely fine for homeschoolers to use the honors designation; it does not have to be a level within one school, but should simply correlate to what would be an honors course in the school system. So, for my own edification, I googled a lot of honors syllabi and course descriptions. For the admissions and scholarship offices, I included a fairly short course summary, 3 pages total, along with the transcript. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoKitty Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 What about pre-made syllabi from providers (I think Hewitt homeschooling is where I have seen them) that have options for college prep syllabi as we as honors? If you follow the honors one, would you call it honors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daijobu Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 We call AoPS as honors because it goes above and beyond what you'd find in a regular math course. OTOH, many of our other classes are not particularly honors-y, so those don't get that designation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 With my older kids I did not use honors designations. I am changing my mind for my 11th grader. One of the schools she wants to apply to uses the SSAR system. It is incredibly annoying to try to quantify our classes within those boxes. I am pretty sure that they take those entries and generate a score. Since her actual transcript is going to be reduced by a computer program as a filter, I am labeling them honos bc they are far beyond anything offered in any school around us and the entries will impact scholarship eligibility 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebbS Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I used honors designations for courses that were determined to be that by outside instructors - these were courses that the same instructors taught at college level. In addition, I gave courses that received the official A/P designation honors level credit. I showed both the regular GPA and a weighted GPA on the transcript. Though the colleges where my kids applied to did not use the weighted grades, several of the scholarship programs that use the same transcript did. So for us, the main advantage to the honors designation is the potential for more scholarships. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daijobu Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I think colleges do care about honors classes insofar as they elevate (inflate?) GPAs. Stanford recently announced their admission decisions and notably included this bit: "More than 80 percent of them have a high school grade point average of 4.0 or above..." It behooves us to call an honors course an honors course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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