3in9th Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Does anyone know of one? By inexpensive, I'm thinking less than $30-45 used. I'd like it to be thorough and it can be meaty 300+ pages. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomOfABunch Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 SWB History of the World is on sale on Amazon right now for $22. It is 867 pages. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyontheFarm Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I have SWB History of the Ancient world. If you google on the high school board you'll also find additional resouces. If you can pick up the Study and Teaching guide. Then you have history covered and frankly more essay topics then you could ever need for essay writing for english also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) . Edited September 5, 2023 by SilverMoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3in9th Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'd like a textbook that might be at or close to college level reading. This is where my kids are for comprehension. I've found SWB too far below their reading level and if I recall, Human Odyssey may be as well. Sorry I didn't clarify this earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) . Edited September 5, 2023 by SilverMoon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootyTooty Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 What about using the relevant portions from one of the following: Human Odyssey by Spielvogel Ways of the World by Strayer Both books are recommended AP books. You can find both on Amazon used in your price range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2jjka Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 My son is using this book. It is pretty good. http://www.hmhco.com/shop/k12/World-History-Patterns-of-Interaction/9780618690107?gclid=Cj0KEQiA1NWnBRDchObfnYrbo78BEiQA-2jqBdXsJnF30JgXppQ01QSvj8qH2n2m4gr2IoyDZQEwR64aArGs8P8HAQ This website has the ISBN if you want to search for a used book on other sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plansrme Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'd like a textbook that might be at or close to college level reading. This is where my kids are for comprehension. I've found SWB too far below their reading level and if I recall, Human Odyssey may be as well. Sorry I didn't clarify this earlier. This is the book to which the poster referred. It has something like 800 pages of tiny print; it should be a suitable reading level for even the most advanced high schooler. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyontheFarm Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 This is the book to which the poster referred. It has something like 800 pages of tiny print; it should be a suitable reading level for even the most advanced high schooler. Plansrme is correct. This is also a Study and Teaching Guide to go with it. I also bought the downloaded maps to go with it, so my son can use the maps to build his History binder. It will contain his essays, maps, questions, notebooking outlines, any newspaper articles relating to the era he is studying all in one place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nansk Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Human Odyssey by Spielvogel is a sturdy highschool level text. It's not lightweight.. Would the first edition (1997) be equally good? Do you know if there are some editing/printing issues as some reviews state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Would the first edition (1997) be equally good? Do you know if there are some editing/printing issues as some reviews state? I only own the '99 edition, and haven't seen any others. Thus far, all of ancients and most of middle ages, we have no complaints. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The Ways of the World book by Strayer is excellent. A good used copy will run you about $16 or so. You will only have a couple of hundred pages for ancient history, but the documents sections are excellent practice for your students. If you are reading a considerable amount of ancient literature as well as parts of Herodotus, Siam Qian, or Livy for histories, you won't need a massive textbook. I would leave space for your student to do other reading, for example, something like The Buried Book. Take some time to read Sun Tzu's The Art of War. It's a short read and my son was amazed to discover that it is read worldwide today in many graduate business courses. Both books offer an insight into history and a relevance for today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space station Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'd like a textbook that might be at or close to college level reading. This is where my kids are for comprehension. I've found SWB too far below their reading level and if I recall, Human Odyssey may be as well. Sorry I didn't clarify this earlier. I think you are confusing her elementary SOTW books with the high school books like History of the Ancient World. They have a much higher reading level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The Ways of the World book by Strayer is excellent. A good used copy will run you about $16 or so. You will only have a couple of hundred pages for ancient history, but the documents sections are excellent practice for your students. If you are reading a considerable amount of ancient literature as well as parts of Herodotus, Siam Quin, or Livy for histories, you won't need a massive textbook. I would leave space for your student to do other reading, for example, something like The Buried Book. Take some time to read Sun Tzu's The Art of War. It's a short read and my son was amazed to discover that it is read worldwide today in many graduate business courses. Both books offer an insight into history and a relevance for today. I got this book on Lisa's suggestion. It's fantastic and for an older edition, very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3in9th Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think you are confusing her elementary SOTW books with the high school books like History of the Ancient World. They have a much higher reading level. I looked at this one. It doesn't say what level it is. Is it high school? If so, I still find the reading level too low, a lack of difficult vocabulary, and some issues with the writing. I do like the maps, though. FWIW, I was recently advised to include copies of the table of contents of all the textbooks we use when my kids apply to college. For this reason, I'm now considering college level texts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi mum Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I looked at this one. It doesn't say what level it is. Is it high school? If so, I still find the reading level too low, a lack of difficult vocabulary, and some issues with the writing. I do like the maps, though. FWIW, I was recently advised to include copies of the table of contents of all the textbooks we use when my kids apply to college. For this reason, I'm now considering college level texts. It is a college level text. I have seen a syllabus shared here where it was being used by a college. It is written for adults and the study guide is designed to bring it down to a high school level. So it is definitely not too low a level for high school. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 We have used Western Heritage by Kagan and Ozmet as a history text. Kagan also co-wrote a world history text. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0136002773/ref=mp_s_a_1_20?qid=1425496397&sr=1-20&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=Donald+.+Kagan&dpPl=1&dpID=514JusDc24L&ref=plSrch Kagan isn't as widely used as Spielvogel, but my kids liked it better. It tends to discuss the trend first (Renaissance or industrialization for example) then describe country specific details. They felt that Spielvogel started with each country then drew things together. I mainly have experience with the western civ texts by Kagan and Spielvogel. But I have found both useful enough that I would look at them for world history too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) On 3/4/2015 at 9:24 AM, outnumberedhomeschooler said: . Edited September 5, 2023 by SilverMoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyNellen Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'd ask at the school itself. Only one (of several) in our area wants more from homeschoolers than the standard course description, and that one is only concerned with science. They probably wouldn't even bother to look at the TOCs otherwise. FWIW, my DS using Spielvogel's Human Odyssey is reading Chaucer, Dante, Shakespeare, and such this year. His Great Books literature covers challenging reading and difficult vocabulary much more thoroughly than any history text could. My objective for his history course is to give him a thorough coverage of history. HO and the GC lectures accomplish that. Western Civilization by the same author is college level. Agreeing wholeheartedly with SilverMoon here. My oldest two are exceedingly competent readers (perfect scores on the critical reading portions of both the ACT and the SAT) and learned a TON from SWB's "History of..." books, because the objective was learning history, not being challenged by the reading level. I expected intelligent conversation regarding the reading, and thorough, intelligent writing about the reading, but I didn't require the reading be complicated in and of itself. That is what literature is for. Also, only one of the six colleges my son applied to this year required course descriptions and they asked that they be "brief." So we have never needed the TOC for any school. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angie in VA Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Take some time to read Sun Tzu's The Art of War. It's a short read and my son was amazed to discover that it is read worldwide today in many graduate business courses. The Kindle version of this is free right now. Thanks, Lisa! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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