FairProspects Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Has Marie ever tried to cut out the paper between the bars? I seriously doubt it because I just did and it was NOT a picnic :glare:. Those bars need to be much wider and I have a feeling the whole thing will shred in about 3 lessons. How did others do the jail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 You know, I do think it would be easier with wider bars (or more space between them at least!), that's worth considering. Wider bars might hide more letters though, but there might be a way to make it more workable. DD likes to see the letters peering out, LOL! I used an exacto-knife when I cut ours out. I actually colored ours & then put magnets on the back so it could be up on our magnet board. You can see it on my blog--4th picture down on this post. I thought at one time that maybe I'd want to laminate it, but never got around to that. When we use it, we make the word out of the letter tiles, then plop the jail right over the top of the words. Merry :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentancalann Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 what? it never occured to me to cut out the jail. people do this? we just throw the card on top of the jail sheet and call it a day. ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceyshoe Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I used an exacto knife to cut the bars. Total pain--and not a pretty job either! I left the jail packed away with a previous level, and now ds just draws the jail on the whiteboard.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_midori Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 what? it never occured to me to cut out the jail. people do this? we just throw the card on top of the jail sheet and call it a day. ha! Never occurred to me, either!! :D Mine actually like to write the word on the dry erase board and then draw an elaborate jail around it - they can make drawing the jail & various things related to it take an impressively (dare I say... annoyingly?) long time - they absolutely LOVE rule breakers... :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satori Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) We love to throw those naughty words in jail! It was too hard to cut out the bars, so I cut out the entire window and put our own bars in. I then taped them in the back with packing tape. I've attached photos. Coincidentally, I'm offering a $50 AAS giveaway on my blog this weekend. Just thought I'd mention it here. Edited August 20, 2011 by Satori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetoteach Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I put the jail sheet in a page protector and let my daughter insert the cards in front of the jail. It hasn't seemed to bother her as she loves to throw the cards in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristenR Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Ah, a jail... that looks like fun! My dd and I are working on our last few lessons of Level 1. Looks like the jail comes with Level 2?? Is that correct? My daughter and I have a sheet of paper taped on one of our walls where we write rule-breakers as they become known to us. (hi, gave, etc) A jail sounds like like a lot more fun than a boring old sheet! I can't wait to start Level 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I cut them out VERY carefully with an x-acto knife. I had one bar rip at one end, and then I figured out the best way to cut them to avoid rips (no, I don't remember what that way was :tongue_smilie:). I put the jail in a laminating pouch, making sure that ripped bar was in its proper place, closed up the pouch, and ran it through the laminator. I now have a laminated jail with openings in the bars for the letters to be seen. :D I'm usually too lazy to pull the jail out though, so we end up just drawing a jail over a word. DS LOVES the jail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 We also did the exacto knife. I noticed that one bar needs taping down again. My son enjoys putting the words in jail. He also writes down reasons they're in jail on the back... and occasionally there's a jail-break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 A jail? Wow. That would be so inappropriate for our family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivka Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 My daughter and I have a sheet of paper taped on one of our walls where we write rule-breakers as they become known to us. (hi, gave, etc). :confused: Are hi and gave irregular? They don't seem like rule-breakers to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenbrdsly Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I'm glad I read this before I cut out my jail! I don't have a laminator, but I wonder if I could cover the jail with clear mailing tape before I try to cut out the bars. That might make it sturdier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommee & Baba Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 what? it never occured to me to cut out the jail. people do this? we just throw the card on top of the jail sheet and call it a day. ha! This is what we do too...and then dd8 just saw the pics from the blog and said MOM we need to cut out the jail and put magnets on it! But the sad part is...our board is TOO small! I need a bigger board! However I will laminate ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 :confused: Are hi and gave irregular? They don't seem like rule-breakers to me. No, those are not rule breakers. "one" and "two" would be rule breakers. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I used a straight edge and then laminated it. My son loves that thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I never used the jail. I showed those words mercy when discussing them. IOW, I was too lazy. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lulabelle Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 You know, I do think it would be easier with wider bars (or more space between them at least!), that's worth considering. Wider bars might hide more letters though, but there might be a way to make it more workable. DD likes to see the letters peering out, LOL! I used an exacto-knife when I cut ours out. I actually colored ours & then put magnets on the back so it could be up on our magnet board. You can see it on my blog--4th picture down on this post. I thought at one time that maybe I'd want to laminate it, but never got around to that. When we use it, we make the word out of the letter tiles, then plop the jail right over the top of the words. Merry :-) Good idea. My ds loves ours and we only have one broken bar, so I think I'm going to laminate it and then put magnets on the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeemama Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 what? it never occured to me to cut out the jail. people do this? we just throw the card on top of the jail sheet and call it a day. ha! :lol: That was my thought exactly! Good thing my kids never thought of it either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winoelle Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I just cut a slit and my daughter slides them in with the edge sticking out after we go over them. I hung the jail on the wall and she loves sticking the rule breakers in there. It didn't even occur to me to try to cut all the bars out. Noelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenbrdsly Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 This is what we do too...and then dd8 just saw the pics from the blog and said MOM we need to cut out the jail and put magnets on it! But the sad part is...our board is TOO small! I need a bigger board! QUOTE] That happened to me the first time I bought a whiteboard. Luckily Office Depot let me take it back, even though I had already opened the package. To get the right size cost me $50. But it's worth it! I keep our board slid behind our china cabinet when not in use, so that my 2 year old won't eat the magnets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristenR Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 :confused: Are hi and gave irregular? They don't seem like rule-breakers to me. Woops. I meant to type "give" not 'gave". The "e" should make the i long but doesn't in that case. And hi I guess I had wrong. I went back to where I thought I had seen that in AAS and its in lesson 69. I must have looked at it wrong because I thought they were saying hi fell into the rule that one syllable words with one vowel generally made the short vowel sound. But here it says if i is the last letter and only vowel in a word than it is long. So I guess that rule trumps the one for hi. So hi does follow that one. Darn English language with all these crazy rules and exceptions. oops :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Woops. I meant to type "give" not 'gave". The "e" should make the i long but doesn't in that case. And hi I guess I had wrong. I went back to where I thought I had seen that in AAS and its in lesson 69. I must have looked at it wrong because I thought they were saying hi fell into the rule that one syllable words with one vowel generally made the short vowel sound. But here it says if i is the last letter and only vowel in a word than it is long. So I guess that rule trumps the one for hi. So hi does follow that one. Darn English language with all these crazy rules and exceptions. oops :tongue_smilie: But "give" isn't a rule breaker either. The silent 'e' is there to keep the 'v' from falling over. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 what? it never occured to me to cut out the jail. people do this? we just throw the card on top of the jail sheet and call it a day. ha! :iagree: I had no idea. My ds loves the jail though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 And hi I guess I had wrong. I went back to where I thought I had seen that in AAS and its in lesson 69. I must have looked at it wrong because I thought they were saying hi fell into the rule that one syllable words with one vowel generally made the short vowel sound. But here it says if i is the last letter and only vowel in a word than it is long. So I guess that rule trumps the one for hi. So hi does follow that one. Darn English language with all these crazy rules and exceptions. oops :tongue_smilie: I actually think "hi" is a rule-breaker. I'm not sure of the "rule" you are thinking of (and there isn't a lesson #69--I thought maybe you meant page # but I wasn't sure what level & step you meant). Anyway...when a vowel is in a closed syllable, it is usually short. Open syllables are usually long, and "hi" is an open-syllable. So, the "i" should be long. The problem with "hi" is that English words don't end in I, J, U, or V. Hi is an exception to that rule. HTH! Merry :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 The problem with "hi" is that English words don't end in I, J, U, or V. Hi is an exception to that rule. HTH! Though would it still be an exception since it's just a shortened form of an English word? Is it still technically an English word in that case? :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Though would it still be an exception since it's just a shortened form of an English word? Is it still technically an English word in that case? :lurk5: LOL, I suppose that's arguable! It's considered slang, but it's so common now I don't think we think about it as slang! Merry :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristenR Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 But "give" isn't a rule breaker either. The silent 'e' is there to keep the 'v' from falling over. :lol: I'll just keep with answer. :tongue_smilie: It's easier on my brain at this time of night. ::glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristenR Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) I actually think "hi" is a rule-breaker. I'm not sure of the "rule" you are thinking of (and there isn't a lesson #69--I thought maybe you meant page # but I wasn't sure what level & step you meant). Anyway...when a vowel is in a closed syllable, it is usually short. Open syllables are usually long, and "hi" is an open-syllable. So, the "i" should be long. The problem with "hi" is that English words don't end in I, J, U, or V. Hi is an exception to that rule. HTH! Merry :-) Sorry- I didn't clarify. We're back here on Level 1. "Hi" is mentioned in Lesson 69 page 136 there. I haven't gotten to the rule you mentioned about ending in i,j, u and V yet. Good to know. :001_smile: Wow- I just realized I was talking about the OPGTR. I pulled that out instead of our AAS. Edited August 26, 2011 by KristenR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentancalann Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 But "give" isn't a rule breaker either. The silent 'e' is there to keep the 'v' from falling over. :lol: ah, but what about g says 'j' before e,i, and y? it may be a rule breaker after all. ;) i LOVE spelling rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 ah, but what about g says 'j' before e,i, and y? it may be a rule breaker after all. ;) It often says /j/, but not always. In Webster's Speller 1908 version (Don Potter's updated one), it has: ga ge gi go gu gy ....ge gi..........gy with that second line having markings on the 'g' to denote the /j/ sound. The first line is said with a /g/ sound. In WRTR, Rule 3 says: "When g has a sound by itself it can say 'j' only if it is followed by e, i, or y. When followed by any other letter, it says 'g'. (Get, girl, and give show that e and i do not always make g say 'j.') In spelling, if g is used to say 'j,' it must be followed by e, i, or y, as in pigeon, religious, energy." So in order to get a /j/ sound from a g, you must put an e, i, or y after it. But g doesn't necessarily say /j/ just because one of those letters is there. ;) It's not quite the same as c, which must say /s/ if it's before e, i, or y. (and I just realized this THIS week :lol:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristenR Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 :banghead: Too many rules ! Hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenjenn Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 A jail?Wow. That would be so inappropriate for our family. I'm sorry. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentancalann Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 It often says /j/, but not always. In Webster's Speller 1908 version (Don Potter's updated one), it has: ga ge gi go gu gy ....ge gi..........gy with that second line having markings on the 'g' to denote the /j/ sound. The first line is said with a /g/ sound. In WRTR, Rule 3 says: "When g has a sound by itself it can say 'j' only if it is followed by e, i, or y. When followed by any other letter, it says 'g'. (Get, girl, and give show that e and i do not always make g say 'j.') In spelling, if g is used to say 'j,' it must be followed by e, i, or y, as in pigeon, religious, energy." So in order to get a /j/ sound from a g, you must put an e, i, or y after it. But g doesn't necessarily say /j/ just because one of those letters is there. ;) It's not quite the same as c, which must say /s/ if it's before e, i, or y. (and I just realized this THIS week :lol:) i knew there would be an explanation out there somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 i knew there would be an explanation out there somewhere! Yeah, it's fun to learn this stuff though! I picked up a used copy of WRTR this week to look through it, and I'm learning more and more. It's very interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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