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The Title of this thread is a spin-off of the Chemistry thread. :001_smile: I would like a Biology that includes Human Anatomy like it did when I was in school. DD doesn't care for Biology, so it's something we want to just get through, so, the more "fun", the better. She also does NOT want to do dissection! Is that possible to get through highschool Bio. with no dissection?

 

Is there any program out there like this?

 

I looked at Prentice-Hall Bio., but can't figure out what I need. :001_huh: Has anyone used the PH Bio. that can tell me what I'd need to get?

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The new (2010) version of the PH Miller & Levine Biology text has a shorter/easier edition called the "Foundations" edition. It does include Human Anatomy & Physiology. It's also quite focused on evolution, though (not sure if that is an issue for you). The illustrations are beautiful. You can see the entire book online here (click on Preview Products):

http://www.pearsonschool.com/index.cfm?locator=PSZ16f&filter_161=&filter_422=&filter_423=6732&filter_424=&filter_281=&filter_425=&programFilterTypeList=161%2C422%2C423%2C424%2C281%2C425&PMDbSiteid=2781&PMDbSolutionid=6724&PMDbSubSolutionid=&PMDbCategoryid=814&&PMDbProgramID=65061

 

The workbooks & lab notebooks come in 2 levels; A is the regular level and B is easier. It doesn't look like any of the labs include dissection. You could also use Froguts ($30 for 1-year subscription) which includes 5 or 6 virtual dissections as well as 2 genetics labs.

 

The new Miller & Levine text (with the Macaw on the cover) is completely different from the previous editions ~ it's been rewritten, redesigned, and much of the material (especially on evolution and genetics) has been updated from the old "Dragonfly" edition. So, unfortunately, it's difficult to find any of the components used since it was just released this year.

 

Jackie

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I'm not sure how "easy" it is, but Abeka's 10th grade biology has a DVD with ALL the labs shown. You watch the DVD and fill in the lab book, just like you did the experiment or dissection, except you didn't. It's what I'm planning on for my non science kid.

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This might fit the bill: Principles, Theories, and Precepts of Biology http://www.timberdoodle.com/Principles_Theories_Precepts_of_Biology_p/570-573.htm'>http://www.timberdoodle.com/Principles_Theories_Precepts_of_Biology_p/570-573.htm'>http://www.timberdoodle.com/Principles_Theories_Precepts_of_Biology_p/570-573.htm'>http://www.timberdoodle.com/Principles_Theories_Precepts_of_Biology_p/570-573.htm and Precepts of Anatomy and Physiology. It is through Timberdoodle under their 9th grade curriculum package. http://www.timberdoodle.com HTH

Blessings,

Pat

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The Title of this thread is a spin-off of the Chemistry thread. :001_smile: I would like a Biology that includes Human Anatomy like it did when I was in school. DD doesn't care for Biology, so it's something we want to just get through, so, the more "fun", the better. She also does NOT want to do dissection! Is that possible to get through highschool Bio. with no dissection?

 

Is there any program out there like this?

 

I looked at Prentice-Hall Bio., but can't figure out what I need. :001_huh: Has anyone used the PH Bio. that can tell me what I'd need to get?

 

ACE Paces Biology with their DVD's? I think it looks really good. And not overwhelming, either.

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It's also quite focused on evolution, though (not sure if that is an issue for you).
Thankyou, I went and checked this out. It looks very interesting! But.....though I don't mind dd studying about evolution, it would probably not work out to have a text that is focused on it, since we are creationist. If it wasn't evolution focused I'd be leaning toward this one! :001_smile:
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I'm not sure how "easy" it is, but Abeka's 10th grade biology has a DVD with ALL the labs shown. You watch the DVD and fill in the lab book, just like you did the experiment or dissection, except you didn't. It's what I'm planning on for my non science kid.
Thankyou! This looks like it'd be a great plan, I think dd would like it a lot! However, the price for the labs dvd's :svengo: --- OUCH! We can't afford that! :( Especially since this is our last one.

 

Hmmmm, if I could get up a group that wanted to do this Biology, and divided the cost of the dvd's..................now THAT might work! Have to look into that more!

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This might fit the bill: Principles, Theories, and Precepts of Biology http://www.timberdoodle.com/Principles_Theories_Precepts_of_Biology_p/570-573.htm and Precepts of Anatomy and Physiology. It is through Timberdoodle under their 9th grade curriculum package. www.timberdoodle.com HTH

Blessings,

Pat

This looks good too. Wish it was a little cheaper, but this is probably the going rate. I'm going to research these further! Thankyou very much!
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ACE Paces Biology with their DVD's? I think it looks really good. And not overwhelming, either.
I went to this site, and I can't seem to figure out how to see the books and TOC, etc. It just takes me straight to the cost. I'd like to see what books they're using, and what all is covered! Can you direct me to a place I can do that?
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I went to this site, and I can't seem to figure out how to see the books and TOC, etc. It just takes me straight to the cost. I'd like to see what books they're using, and what all is covered! Can you direct me to a place I can do that?

 

Go to this blog:

 

http://www.rockinhsmom5.blogspot.com/

 

On the left hand side she has an ACE box. Click on ACE Curriculum Samples, then click on Science. Just scroll down until you come to the Biology. She has samples of both the PACES and the DVDs.

 

If you go back and click on ACE Content, then click on Science and scroll down, you will find what each PACES contains (subject matter).

 

HTH

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Go to this blog:

 

http://www.rockinhsmom5.blogspot.com/

 

On the left hand side she has an ACE box. Click on ACE Curriculum Samples, then click on Science. Just scroll down until you come to the Biology. She has samples of both the PACES and the DVDs.

 

If you go back and click on ACE Content, then click on Science and scroll down, you will find what each PACES contains (subject matter).

 

HTH

 

Thanks, Katia! I was trying to locate where, if anyplace, they had samples online. Also, ACE will send you one free sample. So, you could call them and ask to have a biology pace sent so you can get an idea of how they are.

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Just adding, I wouldn't get too stressed about the dissection. It's only to extend what they've already learnt from diagrams to looking at the real thing, and anyway, lots of squeamish kids sit out the dissection sessions at school.

I sure did. I read about the anatomy of a frog instead of cutting one open.

 

I think if I were to do it over again, I would try to work purposeful dissection in -- by studying, for example, a whole chicken or fish and preparing it for human consumption. Some sort of science "meats" hunting class. Remove the feathers, study the skin, remove the feet, the beak, cut the chicken, trim things, remove the organs and whatnot. I think it's good to know how things work. I am not sure I have that knowledge. Except, perhaps, of a frog.

 

Delighted to see a thread about non-rigorous things. Although I'd imagine dead animals would be quite rigor-filled. ;)

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Just another word about dissection:

 

In high school I had no problems actually doing the dirty work whereas my lab partners simply watched.

 

If for some reason you feel you must/want to include dissections in your program, you can view many dissections online. Some are actual dissections, some are virtual. I don't have links to share handy, but I have googled the topic and have found links where the student (and teacher) may watch the process. Some include printable worksheets, etc.

 

My dd participates in a small group for Apologia Physical Science. A total of three families get together about 2x per month so the kids can do the labs together. Next year we plan to do Biology but we have opted not to do the actual dissections but use virtual dissections instead, as they come up in the text.

 

We also plan to use online videos/slides in place of an expensive microscope. We all have a cheap microscope where the use and parts may be learned, but the quality leaves a lot to be desired. We are all on a very strict budget so we talked it over and felt using the internet to "see" slides would be fine for our purposes. Hope this is helpful and encouraging.

 

Adrianne in IL

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We used this program mentioned above: Principles, Theories, and Precepts of Biology and Precepts of Anatomy and Physiology. I got our set at Rainbow Resource.

 

My dd is on book 6 for biology, and will be starting anatomy next month.

 

For us they have been very good. I added in dissection and a few other experiments. I want my dd to know the basics, but it is very obvious that science is not her passion.

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This might fit the bill: Principles, Theories, and Precepts of Biology http://www.timberdoodle.com/Principles_Theories_Precepts_of_Biology_p/570-573.htm and Precepts of Anatomy and Physiology. It is through Timberdoodle under their 9th grade curriculum package. www.timberdoodle.com HTH

Blessings,

Pat

Does anyone know the author's view on life (creation/evolution/???) as presented in this book (Principles, Theories & Precepts of Biology)? I see some about different thoughts, including Darwin, but can't tell what angle he's coming from. It it's ALL evolutionist, then I'd have to pass on this one as well.

 

Oh, AMY, I should ask you, since you've used it! Any thoughts?

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I have this biology http://www.christianlibertypress.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CLP68910&cat=40.

It contains human anatomy and physiology, and is from a creationist perspective.

Looks to me like it could be as rigorous or relaxed as you want it to be.

You can get teacher materials and tests, and lab notebook also.

I was planning to use this with my dd who went to school for 10th, so I haven't used it yet. One more coming along, maybe I'll get to use it with him.

 

Hope you find exactly what you are looking for!

Blessings,

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I have this biology http://www.christianlibertypress.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CLP68910&cat=40.

It contains human anatomy and physiology, and is from a creationist perspective.

Looks to me like it could be as rigorous or relaxed as you want it to be.

You can get teacher materials and tests, and lab notebook also.

I was planning to use this with my dd who went to school for 10th, so I haven't used it yet. One more coming along, maybe I'll get to use it with him.

 

Hope you find exactly what you are looking for!

Blessings,

We've used CLP stuff before, I never even thought of looking there! Thankyou!

 

Is there a way to view the TOC of this book? How do you know it includes anatomy & Physiology stuff? I'd love to see the contents! Maybe I'll try to find that on-line somewhere...

 

The price for this is great too! If it's not dry and boring, this may be what we'd do!

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We've used CLP stuff before, I never even thought of looking there! Thankyou!

 

Is there a way to view the TOC of this book? How do you know it includes anatomy & Physiology stuff? I'd love to see the contents! Maybe I'll try to find that on-line somewhere...

 

The price for this is great too! If it's not dry and boring, this may be what we'd do!

I found the answer to that question on Christianbook.com. It has the TOC and some of the other stuff, and it's a little cheaper! My dd wants the Biology flipper they show on CBD!

 

Thanks for this suggestion, Diane, it's looking very promising!

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I PM'd you a long idea ;)
Oh.My.Goodness!!! Heather, that's it! That's exactly it! Thankyou so much!

 

I was re-looking at the options when I got your pm. Now I have already ordered the program you suggested! :001_smile:

 

THANKYOU EVERYONE for your ideas! I really liked a lot of this stuff and was having a hard time finalizing! As a Christian/Creationist I wanted to stay true to our principles, meaning, I didn't want a whole curriculum based on evolution, though I don't mind a section on it. In case anyone is curious, here is the base of the ideas that Heather sent to me:

 

http://www.the101series.com/

 

And here's the best price for it, on RR: http://rainbowresource.com/product/Biology+101+DVD/043262/1267131134-1747005

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I have this biology http://www.christianlibertypress.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CLP68910&cat=40.

It contains human anatomy and physiology, and is from a creationist perspective.

Looks to me like it could be as rigorous or relaxed as you want it to be.

You can get teacher materials and tests, and lab notebook also.

I was planning to use this with my dd who went to school for 10th, so I haven't used it yet. One more coming along, maybe I'll get to use it with him.

 

Hope you find exactly what you are looking for!

Blessings,

 

Do you have the lab book? I wonder how it compares to Apologia? Do you think the labs would be easy to do at home? Thanks!

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Do you have the lab book? I wonder how it compares to Apologia? Do you think the labs would be easy to do at home? Thanks!
I almost went with this Biology. I would have gotten the lab books. From what I read, it says most of the labs can be done at home. We would've either just skipped the ones we couldn't "easily" do, or tried to find the materials. I think it says that somewhere on the CLP site, or maybe the CBD site, I was looking back and forth at both of those.
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I almost went with this Biology. I would have gotten the lab books. From what I read, it says most of the labs can be done at home. We would've either just skipped the ones we couldn't "easily" do, or tried to find the materials. I think it says that somewhere on the CLP site, or maybe the CBD site, I was looking back and forth at both of those.

 

Thanks! I wonder how easy it would be to combine this with the Biology 101 DVDs? They both look good!

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Thanks! I wonder how easy it would be to combine this with the Biology 101 DVDs? They both look good!
Maybe you can ask Heather to share her plan of how she's using the Bio 101 DVD's and living books. Her dd is like mine, in that they don't want to do the hands-on dissections (that was my ds16's favorite part of Bio! :D ), so she showed me some sites that have virtual labs....
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Maybe you can ask Heather to share her plan of how she's using the Bio 101 DVD's and living books. Her dd is like mine, in that they don't want to do the hands-on dissections (that was my ds16's favorite part of Bio! :D ), so she showed me some sites that have virtual labs....

 

 

Thanks!

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We've used CLP stuff before, I never even thought of looking there! Thankyou!

 

Is there a way to view the TOC of this book? How do you know it includes anatomy & Physiology stuff? I'd love to see the contents! Maybe I'll try to find that on-line somewhere...

 

The price for this is great too! If it's not dry and boring, this may be what we'd do!

 

Sorry I was away from the computer for hours, looks like you found your answer, that's great.

I have the textbook only, and when my next kid comes up I may just not have to look any further....that is, unless what you posted most recently looks even better, argh!!

My problem is that neither dh nor I nor any of the kids are very good at math/science, and some of us stink at it more than others, lol. So I would need something "not rigorous".

 

Blessings,

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Okay, I looked at the Biology 101 DVDs, and I'm very interested. Seems like they would be great.

Thanks so much for sharing!!

Blessings,

Yeah, isn't it great? My dd was excited when she saw it, after having been dreading doing Biology! THANKYOU TO HEATHER for sharing this resource!
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Good Morning All! This is the PM I sent to Brindee regarding Biology.

My daughter will be doing 9th grade in the fall and here is the Biology plan for her.

 

We are using Biology 101 DVD's as the base.

Samples Here:

http://www.the101series.com/

Best Price Here:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

Then we will be adding living books (which is what the course suggests). We are going to use several from Master Books as well as our library.

Here are a few we chose:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/G...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

My daughter is also not interested in dissection, so I located some virtual options.

 

Here are some sites I found:

http://shs.westport.k12.ct.us/mjvl/b...t/crayfish.htm

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._14/BL_14.html

 

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/...ctionGame.html

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._16/BL_16.html

 

Hope this helps your search. :001_smile:

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Good Morning All! This is the PM I sent to Brindee regarding Biology.

 

My daughter will be doing 9th grade in the fall and here is the Biology plan for her.

 

We are using Biology 101 DVD's as the base.

Samples Here:

http://www.the101series.com/

Best Price Here:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

Then we will be adding living books (which is what the course suggests). We are going to use several from Master Books as well as our library.

Here are a few we chose:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/G...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

My daughter is also not interested in dissection, so I located some virtual options.

 

Here are some sites I found:

http://shs.westport.k12.ct.us/mjvl/b...t/crayfish.htm

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._14/BL_14.html

 

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/...ctionGame.html

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._16/BL_16.html

 

Hope this helps your search. :001_smile:

:thumbup: Thanks Heather! I didn't want to put it up here without your permission. :)
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Oh.My.Goodness!!! Heather, that's it! That's exactly it! Thankyou so much!

 

I was re-looking at the options when I got your pm. Now I have already ordered the program you suggested! :001_smile:

 

THANKYOU EVERYONE for your ideas! I really liked a lot of this stuff and was having a hard time finalizing! As a Christian/Creationist I wanted to stay true to our principles, meaning, I didn't want a whole curriculum based on evolution, though I don't mind a section on it. In case anyone is curious, here is the base of the ideas that Heather sent to me:

 

http://www.the101series.com/

 

And here's the best price for it, on RR: http://rainbowresource.com/product/Biology+101+DVD/043262/1267131134-1747005

This was suggested to me by the guy at Answers in Genesis, one of the guys who writes the God's Design series...

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Are you doing this? Or are you going to do it? I can hardly wait to go through it with her....I could certainly use a brush-up on Biology concepts!

My dd is in 9th grade this year, we'll be doing Biology in 10th, It is on the top of my list though and now that I see all the other things the previous poster uses with it, I may go forward with it.

The person I spoke to on the phone a AIG, suggested the Bio 100 for kids who are not science minded or math minded.

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My dd is in 9th grade this year, we'll be doing Biology in 10th, It is on the top of my list though and now that I see all the other things the previous poster uses with it, I may go forward with it.

The person I spoke to on the phone a AIG, suggested the Bio 100 for kids who are not science minded or math minded.

Yeah, That's what hit me---it was exactly what we wanted for dd's Bio., I just didn't know it yet. When she put everything together, it was just right!

 

My dd put it this way: "I don't like Biology, Physics is okay, but I LOVE Chemistry!" Her math skills, though, aren't where they need to be to take the highschool Chem, then the advanced Chem., which is what she wants to do. So, I figured getting Biology overwith now, in 9th, might be the best plan. During that year she'll be doing Algebra, so by the next year she'll be more confident in that area, and be able to get through the Chemistry better! I'd hate for her to lose her love of Chemistry, and if we wait a year for it (she wanted to do it this year), that love is more likely to stay intact! :D

 

I haven't seen Bio 100. Is it by the same people as 101?

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Yeah, That's what hit me---it was exactly what we wanted for dd's Bio., I just didn't know it yet. When she put everything together, it was just right!

 

My dd put it this way: "I don't like Biology, Physics is okay, but I LOVE Chemistry!" Her math skills, though, aren't where they need to be to take the highschool Chem, then the advanced Chem., which is what she wants to do. So, I figured getting Biology overwith now, in 9th, might be the best plan. During that year she'll be doing Algebra, so by the next year she'll be more confident in that area, and be able to get through the Chemistry better! I'd hate for her to lose her love of Chemistry, and if we wait a year for it (she wanted to do it this year), that love is more likely to stay intact! :D

 

I haven't seen Bio 100. Is it by the same people as 101?

oops! Sorry that should have read Bio 101! He recommended that! Didn't mean to confuse you!

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The person I spoke to on the phone a AIG, suggested the Bio 100 for kids who are not science minded or math minded.
So that previous message of mine----all that long thing I wrote was to say something, and I forgot to say what I was going to say!:001_huh: I was going to end with.... so, dd does fine in math, and fine in science, she's just Chemistry-minded, NOT Biology-minded! :001_smile:
oops! Sorry that should have read Bio 101! He recommended that! Didn't mean to confuse you!
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Good Morning All! This is the PM I sent to Brindee regarding Biology.

 

My daughter will be doing 9th grade in the fall and here is the Biology plan for her.

 

We are using Biology 101 DVD's as the base.

Samples Here:

http://www.the101series.com/

Best Price Here:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

Then we will be adding living books (which is what the course suggests). We are going to use several from Master Books as well as our library.

Here are a few we chose:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/G...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

My daughter is also not interested in dissection, so I located some virtual options.

 

Here are some sites I found:

http://shs.westport.k12.ct.us/mjvl/b...t/crayfish.htm

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._14/BL_14.html

 

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/...ctionGame.html

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._16/BL_16.html

 

Hope this helps your search. :001_smile:

 

Thank you Heather! This looks great! Are you going to use anything further for labs other than what is listed above? You had such great ideas, I thought I'd pick your brain a little more. :)

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We are using the same thing.

We will add Dissection, Find and identify 30-50 different plants/flowers, and keep a Nature notebook.

I thought they did the plant id in physical science? Is it a biology thing too, since you study cell and structure, etc.? My oldest ds took Phys. Sci. at a coop, and they collected and id'd plants. It was a GREAT experience for him!

 

Is there a specific thing you're using to help with the ideas for the plant id and the nature notebook?

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Good Morning All! This is the PM I sent to Brindee regarding Biology.

My daughter will be doing 9th grade in the fall and here is the Biology plan for her.

 

We are using Biology 101 DVD's as the base.

Samples Here:

http://www.the101series.com/

Best Price Here:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

Then we will be adding living books (which is what the course suggests). We are going to use several from Master Books as well as our library.

Here are a few we chose:

http://rainbowresource.com/product/B...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/G...131134-1747005

 

http://rainbowresource.com/product/E...131134-1747005

 

My daughter is also not interested in dissection, so I located some virtual options.

 

Here are some sites I found:

http://shs.westport.k12.ct.us/mjvl/b...t/crayfish.htm

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._14/BL_14.html

 

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/...ctionGame.html

 

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/vi..._16/BL_16.html

 

Hope this helps your search. :001_smile:

 

Heather,

That is wonderful information!

I wasn't even thinking about biology yet, my ds is only in 5th.

But I will keep this info for later. Maybe I can coordinate this stuff with my CLP biology book that I'm hoping to use.

I really appreciate you posting these links, Heather, thanks so much for sharing them.

Thanks, Brindee, for asking the question, and thanks, everyone for the great info!!! I probably should go read the "not rigorous Chemistry" thread while I'm at it.

Hope everyone has a great day.

Blessings,

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Thanks! :001_smile:

 

Thank you for starting this thread! Please let us know what you think about the Biology 101 DVD's. Dd is not into science and she likes Biology least of all. Trying to find a biology curriculum that is not rigorous and is written from a Christian perspective is hard.

 

I wonder how an "Introduction to Biology" for a half credit would look on a transcript? The other half of the year maybe do astronomy or geology for another half credit. This would make dd even happier. :001_smile:

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Thank you for starting this thread! Please let us know what you think about the Biology 101 DVD's. Dd is not into science and she likes Biology least of all. Trying to find a biology curriculum that is not rigorous and is written from a Christian perspective is hard.

 

I wonder how an "Introduction to Biology" for a half credit would look on a transcript? The other half of the year maybe do astronomy or geology for another half credit. This would make dd even happier. :001_smile:

You probably need 1 whole credit, don't you? Or, if you aren't doing Physical Science on it's own, maybe you can do units on Biology and Physical science and call it something like Physical and Biological Science.

 

A&P Unit, Plants (collect, identify, press, make a notebook), Cell Unit, etc. I wonder if something like that would work? You can add in the outside reading on things she's interested in. As long as she puts in the required amount of hours to make 1 credit, then it should work, right?!

 

It sounds like you're looking for something like I was! I haven't received the Biology 101 DVD's yet. I'm looking forward to seeing what they're like and how dd likes them. I'll let you know what we think!

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It sounds like you're looking for something like I was! I haven't received the Biology 101 DVD's yet. I'm looking forward to seeing what they're like and how dd likes them. I'll let you know what we think!

 

Thank you! We'll be looking forward to hearing your reviews.

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