What grade would you recommend the logical communication class?

I am interested in where you are finding out they reduce aid after freshman year. Is there a place to research that sort of thing for various colleges?

We just use copybook as well. My son is a lefty and is 6yo. We just started working on letter formation in K because he couldn’t seem to decide which hand he preferred prior to that time. I really like the stabilo easystart pencils. They have a comfortable grip that goes all the way down the pencil. Stock comes and goes on amazon as stabilo doesn’t sell directly in the US. https://www.amazon.com/Stabilo-EASYgraph-Ergonomic-Graphite-Pencils/dp/B077SMQJVQ

I would say the comma is correct. I tend to avoid colons when possible as I never felt comfortable using them. I looked it up and this page looked helpful. https://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/quotation_(speech)_marks_colon_or_comma.htm

We are back. Dd has her Panera soup and cookie and was only 5 minutes late for her AP Latin class. She thinks she did well and certainly much better on than the math than on the practice SAT #3. I think she was just happy that it was over. The feeling is mutual. My daughter also woke up at 4:00, only she was coughing. I put the humidifier in her room and she went back to sleep. Why do they always get sick on important days? Does anyone know if scores are available in their college board account before the paper score report arrives? It was December before we received scores last year in the mail.

My oldest in 11th takes it for keeps tomorrow as well. Her cousins in Texas all made national merit so it has been hard to hide the significance of it all these years. If she has a good day she has a shot. Not many schools in Michigan give anything for it and I don’t know if I want her going out of state so in some ways I am not even sure why she is taking it.

I am still new to all this as my oldest is a junior, but I do agree to feeling free to treat outside courses rather like group tutoring and a service to enhance the education of my children. This is especially true to me when the provider does not even consider themselves a school. The courses serve as a means for conflict avoidance (writing) or a risk free opportunity to explore a topic of interest that I can’t effectively provide (languages like Greek). If a child gets a 92 in a class I don’t consider it changing a grade to make it reflect a common grade scale used on the transcript regardless of how the original course provider classified it. If my child took an approved AP class I would not punish them by omitting that information on the transcript just because they didn’t take the exam or because they didn’t do well on the exam. Students very frequently do not take the exam if they know they don’t want or need the college credit or know their target school won’t accept it anyway.

I don’t think you need to explain it. You state your grading scale on the transcript and then follow it. The divisions for grades are quite arbitrary in my opinion.

I spoke with a couple of colleges and both seemed fine with converting all grades to a common scale. I use 90-100 is an A because it is easy and one of the providers used that scale anyway. I don’t consider that changing the grade awarded as it sort of all balances out in the end. I do plan on weighing H and AP as +1.0 because some of her honors classes would be AP level if there were an AP available (like Classical Greek) or simply self study for AP/CLEP without getting the approval from the college board. I don’t think she should be hurt by the fact the college board chose not to offer an AP exam in the subject. So far she has not taken any DE. My daughter’s safe school awards scholarships based on weighted GPA and admissions says they will add in 0.05 for each AP class if GPA isn’t weighted, but I would rather not rely on them paying attention. If you are clear about it, they can recalculate based on their desires. They will have to do it with most physical school transcripts if they don’t like weighted grades.

What is also unclear...can you take the full test then take individual sections to slowly replace your original score? Can you take two individual sections in one day? The possibilities seem endless. For better or worse, I wish they would just leave these tests alone, but now we have a new game we have to figure out. I still remember when you had points taken away for a wrong answer on the SAT. I see this as an opportunity for test prep people to write new books to sell us in addition to the money the ACT will take from us.

Where did you hear about college board changes? I can’t seem to find that.

Wow! I hadn’t heard about that. It would help my daughter since it appears something was messed up with the math section of her test in September. It will be interesting to see how colleges react since some require a certain score in a single sitting for scholarship eligibility. I agree that I am not sure how I feel about the change especially to computer based on a test that is as fast paced as the ACT. Plus it is really different to prep and take a 40 minute test than preparing to take a 4 hour one.

Have you considered Memoria Press Online Academy? My daughter used them from 3rd form through Henle 2 before transferring to Lukeion Latin. She loves Lukeion Greek, but Latin 3 was stressful for both of us. Those two years of Wheelock appear to be The equivalent of First Form to Henle 2 with approximately 250+ vocabulary words that she had never seen and had to learn by the first week of class.. That pace is very aggressive to get through the entire grammar in two years. The syllabus for Latin 3 was a four page diatribe on plagiarism, and I think freaked her out from asking any questions of the teacher. The class translated 60-100 lines a week in Latin 3 which took a lot of time. Sticking with it was a lesson (maybe a good one, not sure yet), but being stressed out and made to feel like she was mediocre at Latin didn’t do her any favors. She did cover lots of material and it did stretch her, but she requested to switch her Latin back to MPOA for AP Latin this year and has been very calm and happy with the class so far. Maybe she won’t get quite as high a score on the AP exam, but maybe she will. Harder doesn’t always mean better. I have heard good things about CLRC Latin and it appears you can join their classes mid semester.

Thank you very much for this. Hypothetically, in the case of the OP, if she creates her own course with the TPS as the foundation, but still uses other classes from TPS as is...would she acknowledge TPS on the course description or her transcript for those other classes? Do universities really care where the course was taken unless it was taken at a college? I see transcript examples with legends like a road atlas indicating where this or that class was taken. My oldest is a junior and we have dabbled with different providers for areas of interest, but I have added content to varying extents. I am still trying to figure out what my relationship is to these providers, their course titles, and grade recommendations when they aren’t really schools. I have an 8th grader coming along and I want to make better informed decisions about outside coursework than I did the first time around. Thanks!

Has anyone ever had a child’s ACT exam hand rescored? My junior took the ACT on the September test date, hoping to take it once and be done. She didn’t do poorly, her English was a 35, Reading and Science were 33, but her 23 in math was 8-10 points lower than her several practice tests. She got a 21 in 7th grade when she hadn’t finished algebra yet. Something isn’t adding up, but September isn’t a test date where you can request a copy of the test booklet. Has anyone here been in this position before? As far as she knows, we aren’t doing anything about it, but it just seems too weird for me to just let it go. Any wisdom would be appreciated.

Kaplan seems to still be aligned with ACT since we got a great number of last minute it isn’t too late to start studying emails from them. My daughter took the ACT on Saturday so we still don’t know her scores. She had 4 sessions of private tutoring with Stellar scores over the summer and my daughter really liked her. Each session was scheduled individually so there was no commitment and no pressure to take any certain amount of sessions. Stacey was very supportive of homeschooling and of my daughter doing most of the work on her own. My daughter liked having a tutor to keep her motivated, to provide some additional support on math tailored to her needs, and to be a source for many extra practice tests. She really didn’t want to sit in a class.

Oakdale Academy in Waterford, Michigan has been more than welcoming of homeschool students for the PSAT. Unfortunately, they do not offer AP exams.

This is exactly the same treatment as I received last spring when pre-looking for AP Latin. I was not given anything in Guam, but one school didn’t offer AP exams at all, ever, to anyone. My problem was when I called the college board the lady did not speak English and when she tried to spell the names of the schools, but often gave the wrong sound for the letter. When I emailed the College Board they gave me schools in Detroit when I specifically asked for different communities. This is only my second post so I don’t know how to link it, but a very nice lady on the AP Exam Registration changes thread posted a link to a college board site where you can search for schools which have approved an AP syllabus for your desired exam in your desired location. It doesn’t answer if they will take your student, but it is a gold mine for a place to start looking. Why no one at the college board offered up this information, that I will never know. https://apcourseaudit.inflexion.org/ledger/

Jplain, Thank you so much for the list of steps, especially that first link! I haven’t posted here in years, but updated my password last week to ask about AP exam registration. I don’t know where you found that link, but I asked the college board on more than one occasion if there was any way at all to tell who has offered AP Latin anytime in recent history. They said nothing at all about this resource. Thank you so much! Sincerely, Dorinda

Hello! This is my first time posting on this forum. I haven't figured out a signature yet. I have a 7th grade dd, a 5th grade ds, a 2nd grade ds, and a 2 yo ds who is on track to keep me on my toes with schooling. We currently use many memoria press products except for math and science and have homeschooled since the beginning. The well trained mind was my first homeschool guide and got me started on classical education. I look forward to getting advice from many of you. D