I’m not a big fan of Krispy Kreme, although I must admit that I usually buy them at rest stop gas stations when we’re traveling, so we’re not exactly talking about the freshest of donuts. Come to think of it, the last Tim Horton’s I went to was at a gas station, too. I guess it’s one of the perks of driving a gas guzzler. More opportunities for donuts.

Ooh! I like those, too!!! I also like the ones with the peanut butter cream filling and the chocolate frosting. It’s like Reese’s, only it’s a donut.

Me, too! And they sound so much fancier than raspberry donuts.

Maybe you can fix it so he doesn’t graduate yet. You’ve got to keep your priorities straight!

There’s still plenty of time!

I’m thinking I want one of those frosted jelly donuts.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I haven’t, either, but I am always open to new sugary possibilities. :)

I choose ALL OF THE ABOVE! And what is this “jelly donut with frosting†of which you speak?

Apparently, I now have 29,965. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: Is it wrong that I’m posting so I can see how many posts I have?

I would love to have something like that from one of my grandmothers! I do have my MIL’s recipe books, though, and it’s fun reading all of the handwritten notes.

I still remember your posts about your dh’s adult children not being able to figure out how to ride the bus... ;)

I’m not positive, but I think that means you can offer the item to the next highest bidder.

She is soooooooo adorable!!!!!

:iagree: And I don’t think any of us is in a position to judge her relationship with her mother, particularly in such a harsh manner.

When you respond within a quote, it makes it impossible to quote you, so I will simply say that I completely disagree with everything you posted. I think you are reading waaaaaay too much into eternalsummer’s posts about her mom, and your views of what constitute “healthy boundaries†are far too extreme for me to be able to agree with you, and your definition of people as being “emotion-heavy idealists†seems highly accusatory toward many people who are only stating opinions and engaging in conversations where there are opposing viewpoints. You seem to have very strong and harsh opinions as to what counts as being “respectful†and “disrespectful,†and I don’t think it’s wise to make such general proclamations.

But why shouldn’t people ever try to persuade each other? I don’t understand why a mother and daughter shouldn’t have some back-and-forth conversations about issues they both consider to be important. I don’t think a lack of “healthy boundaries†are an issue in eternalsummer’s examples. Honestly, I don’t think there is a one-size-fits-all answer to “how adults should respectfully handle that kind of conversation.†What is right for you may be entirely different from what is right in other people’s relationships, and what’s right for eternalsummer in her relationship with her mom may be entirely different from what is right in eternalsummer’s relationships with other people in her life.

I hope you start feeling better very soon, Diana! :grouphug:

I like the suggestions for taking meteorology and astronomy if they are available, but they weren’t on your list, so maybe they’re not an option. I know some people are suggesting the science that they think would be most useful, but I’m getting the impression that usefulness isn’t much of a consideration here, right? Am I correct in assuming that you’re looking for the easiest course that will require the least amount of effort, and that the student will be taking it solely because a science course is required by the college?

I agree, Jean! Although I must admit that I weighed in, too... :leaving:

I couldn’t quote HomeschoolMom in AZ because she responded within a quote so it didn’t show up when I tried to respond, but after reading your posts about your conversations with your mom, I totally disagree with HomeschoolMom when she said that your relationship with your mom is somehow abnormal, and that you shouldn’t have open and/or repeated discussions about things like this. I don’t understand why she is advocating such a hard-line approach with your own mom, because it sounds like you and your mom are quite close. Why shouldn’t she be able to offer advice or let you know that she objects to something you’re doing? And why shouldn’t you be able to explain why you choose to do things differently than she would prefer? Neither of you is overstepping any boundaries, except for the time when she let your dd eat the birthday cake, because neither you nor your mom is doing anything but discussing an issue. No threats. No blackmail. No nastiness. People discuss things when they’re in healthy relationships. They don’t dismiss each other’s opinions, and they don’t force their opinions on each other. It sounds to me like you and your mom are doing just fine. You don’t agree on everything, but who agrees with anyone on every single thing? And you are standing your ground without damaging your relationship with your mom, so I don’t see a problem here. I really respect the way you’re working through a disagreement in principle with your mom — and I say this as someone who would probably be on your mom’s side of the issue at hand, so this is a sincere compliment to you. :)

I just wanted to say that I think Xahm has been the epitome of graciousness in this thread. She has “liked†all of the responses to her posts, even when those posts disagreed with her own feelings on the topic, and she hasn’t argued with anyone or acted like anyone was picking on her decision to participate in the study. Let’s face it, how many of us (I’m including myself here!) have started threads to ask for advice or opinions, and then gotten defensive and ended up arguing with the people whose honest opinions we supposedly wanted to hear? Xahm asked for our opinions and she listened to them without judgment or argument, and I think that is very commendable. :hurray: Could this be the first friendly vaccine-related thread in WTM history? ;)

Add my vote to the NO group. I would absolutely not allow my child to participate in that type of study. It’s none of my business what other parents decide to do, but if a friend of mine specifically asked for my opinion on whether or not she should sign her kids up for a trial, I would not hesitate to be honest with her about how I felt about it, but if it was a casual acquaintance at a homeschool group event and she said her kids were already participating in a trial, I might ask her more about it, but if she wasn’t asking for opinions, I wouldn’t criticize her decision.

How else would you get to know what kind of property you can afford in a new area if you didn’t go see some of them? I guess you could go to open houses, but it’s not always possible to do that when you don’t already live nearby. It makes perfect sense to me that you would contact a real estate agent and ask to see a few places while you’re in the area. You can explain that you won’t be moving for a while, but say you’d like to be put on his or her email list so you can be informed as new properties that meet your criteria go up for sale in your target area. That way, when you’re ready to move, you’ll already be ahead of the game — you’ll already have a realtor and you’ll already know what’s available for sale and what you can expect to get for the money you want to spend.