I am concerned that he is “our voice” at the Harvard conference. The conference has a distinct anti-homeschool bias and inviting this guy to defend it seems a little convenient. They’ve set us all up to look like controlling crazy people. No main stream homeschool defenders. Why wasn’t SWB invited? Or Pudwa? Or even Jay Wyle who collects independent university studies on homeschooling in addition to making curriculum? It’s so disheartening. Every word in that article is exactly what the ban-homeschooling people are saying we all are with no one there to refute them. The timing of the Duggar thing just feeds right into it too.

This one.

I have no desire to get a regular cold either.

Yeah, I misread it. I fixed my post.

His order bans businesses from requiring vaccines. That's what the cruise lines are upset about. It looks like they can still require masks though. https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2021/05/07/norwegian-cruise-florida-desantis-vaccine/ "Ron DeSantis (R) issued an executive order in March barring businesses from requiring proof of vaccinations. He signed that order into state law on Monday." https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/05/04/what-we-know-about-desantis-executive-order-suspending-local-covid-19-restrictions/ Can businesses still require social distancing and masks? Yes. DeSantis made clear Monday that the executive orders apply only to local government-mandated orders, not mask requirements or social distancing policies enforced by businesses. That means a restaurant or store can still require patrons to wear face coverings or follow other safety procedures if it wants to do so.

When I was using birth control not having a period was my # 1 criteria. I used 3 different methods over the decade and half that I was using it. They all worked but I still had bleeding occasionally on all of them. Twice with depo the doc moved my shot up a week earlier to accommodate it. With the IUD I’d have one light period every 6 months or so. My doctors always said break through bleeding was totally normal and common. None of them block periods 100%, 100% of the time in 100% of people.

She put herself out there with this one. The fact that she went through something horrific doesn't mean I can't critique her public statement. And I'm not being rude to her and doing it on her facebook page. I'm having a thoughtful discussion somewhere else. Perhaps she was was just being casual in her writing here. That's fine. It leaves some of her points ambiguous though. I found 2 parts that she wrote to be problematic. *I* read her as equating Porn with child abuse and I disagree. She also said that the wife always knows. Now, Anna Duggar knew, or had an inkling that her husband was into something other than monogamous adult relations even if she didnt know what, but there are women who are blindsided and I find it problematic to imply those women aren't being honest. I didn't see JAWM on this thread.

I dont think objecting to it is wrong and agree with the fact that its often made unethically. I think lumping the guy that watches an occasional professional video into the same category as someone who is viewing babies in that way is not helpful or fair. It confuses all sorts of issues. It lessens how terrible child SA material is when it's viewed the same as someone watching adults in a regulated industry. Josh Duggar isn't going to jail (hopefully) for watching Stormy Daniels do a s*x movie on a set. Very, very, very few men who view adult on adult porn will ever have an interest in children or in actually harming another human being. I find the false equivalence problematic. I think a discussion on the possible pitfalls of porn, or unethical sourcing, or feminism and the porn industry or revenge porn or whatever are fully different discussions than watching children being violently abused.

Just curious, is that from the vaccine as in the chemical components that were injected or from the needle and the way it was administered?

It seems like she does to me. She starts off talking about Josh Duggar viewing child SA and then immediately starts talking about wives knowing about their husband viewing porn, without indicating that she is changing subjects. It seems to me like she is lumping it all together as one thing. You don't have to agree.

I happen to be procrastinating my Critical Thinking (logic) final right now so I have my text book handy. It specifically mentions "begging the question" as having an every day meaning and a meaning for logicians. Everyday use mean "raising a question without offering an argument" according to my textbook authors.

People adapt. If I go back 200 years and say “yo, dadd-o, that’s the bees knees, so hip and happening” I’m getting put in an insane asylum. Today I would sound old. At a certain place in time it would have been “cool”. If I say “we’ll have a gay-old time” people understand what I’m saying based on context.

That’s interesting. I had never considered that, until this thread.

She’s right about a lot, but this part bothers me. Equating child SA materials to watching “regular” porn to porn addiction is all kinds of wrong. Not every man who watches regular porn is addicted, not every porn addict is watching Child SA. And more than 1 board members on this forum has said they were surprised by child SA, because child SA is wholly different from porn.

If they’ve had it for 2 years I don’t see how they don’t know whether or not the file was played on that computer at some point, but I thought I saw a quote that left it as a question. (It was in his computer, he’s legally responsible. I’m not saying he isn’t. Just trying to clarify the details.)

I thought the testimony about that video specifically said they weren’t sure that Josh had watched it in particular or if it was part of a package. Now everyone is saying he watched it over and over. Where is that coming from?

I agree with 100%, I just can’t wrap my mind about why? How does this benefit the Chinese? They look incompetent, so that’s not good. It makes me wonder if there isn’t as much wealth in the country as we think, if they can’t afford to maintain things? Do they not have the technology we assume they have? It’s so weird.

There will be some that come to his dealership to “support” him because they’ll refuse to believe the charges… The mean ole guvment going after good Christian men. Persecution! Canceling! He’ll get some business from that.

Language marches on. Awesome no longer means full of awe, cool no longer means slightly warmer than cold, hip isn’t a body part. Creepy means what it means. We all have lexical pet peeves.

Not anywhere in the same league, of course, but I wasn’t surprised because I’ve been watching NOVA and other sciency documentaries for years. ALL of the pandemic ones have scientists talking about animal to human transmission. The ones that talk about the first SARS always talk about bats, influenza ones talk about pigs. Scientists have been sounding the warning bells for a pandemic forever. I think it was assumed that it would’ve flu, but after SARS and MERS it being a coronavirus wasn’t a shock. I watched one on SARS last year that was so uncanny that I had to check the release date. It had come out in 2015. The scientist looks straight at the camera and talk about asymptotic transmission being a terrible possibility. And that one talked about studying bats. A lab accident or leak or whatever is a possibility but it being a natural occurrence isn’t crazy. It was predicted. Unless that was all advance ground work for a future possible lab accident, but that sounds like tin foil hat stuff.

I saw this the other day. It says sperm counts have dropped significantly in the past few decades. The researcher blames micro plastics. she says most couples will need help conceiving by 2045. Kind of scary to think about. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/28/shanna-swan-fertility-reproduction-count-down

Thank you! I really feel like the computer programs and the teachers response really killed my sons desire to learn. I did the DE for pre Calc precisely because I wanted a real teacher, not a proctor. I have a lot of guilt.

I think homeschoolers have higher standards. Which is good, but also bad when situations like that happen. We aren’t using the same criteria as public schools or CCs. Ours is better I think but it’s hard to compare apples to apples.

College Algebra is probably not a good example, it’s not considered remedial for most colleges. But pre calculus or the intermediate math that is equivalent to Alg 2 are. A high school student taking Alg 2 (intermediate alg) in college is different from a 30 year old returning to school taking the same class. Very different student types. The biggest problem for me is that if you look at the remedial level classes, they tend not to be successful. They also tend to be very heavily computer system driven, ALEKS is commonly used in those classes at the college my husband went to. He was the 30 year old returning student who needed remedial classes. Most students that need remedial classes never pass them. (My husband did, with a lot of help from me) They don’t get the attention.

I think it’s really going to vary by location.