I would ask around and see how important credentialing is in this particular field. It may very well be that any particular credential isn't nearly as important as experience, and if he has an interest, it would be better to simply find work in this field over the summer, either as an unpaid intern, or low-level lackey, who can work his way up through experience. Work experience that he could get via contacts at his college may very well be more valuable that community college credits.

What Laura modestly omits is that her son attends one of the best universities for classics in the world, whose students are probably some of the best prepared in the world. If she knows, be interested to learn what the typical Latin/Greek progression is for these students -- I bet that very few of them started so young.

And what, pray-tell is the one end of the city? Or, more to the point, the one end of the public education system? Ask around, and you get rather a lot of answers, from "to create informed citizens", "to create employable people", or "to make sure these kids get a least one meal a day", and the real end is "to pass some standardized tests so we don't all get fired".

Maybe I'm preaching to the choir here, but it bugs me that this article defines AP as a method to get college credit for work done in High School. I look at AP as a tool (one of many) mainly for admissions purposes, but assuming that the primary value of AP is as a way to finish college earlier and cheaper, is a mistake. If you can finish earlier and cheaper because of AP, good on you, but banking on that, may lead to surprises.

Public Libraries. The Marshall Plan. Public funding for basic research, which led to the internet we all love, and no end of breakthroughs.

I guarantee you that they don't teach American exceptionalism... And the worst part of the article is they claim that perhaps their previously passed anti-common core legislation bans all "national curricula", whatever that means. So, not just APUSH, but all APs, all SAT IIs, all IB, etc. etc.

No doubt because your husband threatened to spank you, either in a Christian Domestic Discipline kind of way, or a Christian Grey kind of way -- it is kind of hard to tell the difference.

I wonder how much of this is caused by the helicopter parenting in the high school years we hear so much about, and kids having no decision making authority over their lives until they get to college and have almost complete control?

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Well, the bad news is it is probably vanishingly unlikely to be able to transfer from a community college into Stanford. The good news is that places like Stanford have astronomical endowments, so the "list price" may be very different from what you actually end up paying.

It is sickening to think that everyone who has gone to her web page, which seems to have advertising on it, is helping to fund the abuse of children. I can only hope that this mom will be uninvited to the many conferences she has been scheduled to speak at. One of the topics she's talked about in the past is how to manage your online social media presence and drive traffic to your blogs.

This is kind of an odd translation -- where is it from? I find the Loebs have translations that are more literal, if a bit clunky to read. Loeb translates this section as I think what he is getting at is "do the ends justify the means". So, if, hypothetically speaking, you think that murder is morally wrong, and if, again, hypothetically speaking, your beloved republic has been overthrown by an imperial dictator, is it expedient to assassinate the dictator, even if morally wrong? Cicero and the stoics are saying this is a false dichotomy, and if the assassination is a greater good, it too is a moral act.

Maybe this is a spin off, but "finding your tribe" seems like a common theme here. Any suggestions for teaching/encouraging our kids, especially the introverted ones, how to find their tribe?

None whatsoever? The instructor doesn't even give lectures or lessons via video? So, essentially, you are paying for a Berlitz class with grading? This is no way to teach a spoken foreign language, especially one as tonal as French. If this is the case, I'm guessing that it isn't the instructor's fault, but the college's fault for setting up the course like this, and I'd be very leery of any other online class from this institution.

For all the talk on other threads about how AP exams and classes do not represent college level work, are either much harder than college classes, or much easier, or require too much useless busy work, I have to say that the AP Latin exam, and most classes I've seen that prepare for it, are right on the mark. Of course, it isn't equivalent to a first semester college class -- more like fourth or fifth semester.

Ovid is noticeably easier than Vergil, but if he's consistently preparing 20 to 30 lines for class, and understands a bit about Latin prosody, he can probably handle AP Latin. I will say, though, that it is a lot of work, and to be careful about not overloading the rest of his schedule.

link I'm not saying this is perfect, but it sure shows that someone thinks that not all AP classes are equal.

I'm curious which classes these were. There's a huge range in difficulty across the various AP classes. I think there's an even greater range in difficulty across subjects than there is across the same subject taught in different places. The one I'm most familiar with, AP Latin, is, pretty close to the content that a fifth or sixth semester college class would study. The required number of lines to prepare for the AP Latin test is pretty long, so there isn't much time for fooling around with making diaramas or other trivial activities. On the other hand, 50% of the students taking AP Human Geography test are high school freshmen. If freshmen routinely take this AP class, do we really, honestly believe it is college level? The UK university system divides the AP test into two tiers when considering admissions of North American students. The lower tier AP tests are worth no more than half what the upper ones are.

What is he reading now, and how many lines does he prepare per class?

I assume that you want to move with your daughter so that she's paying in-state tuition at a public school? If so, I'd certainly investigate the residency requirements for in-state tuition, as they vary tremendously from state to state. And, if you are moving there her freshman year, you may not be able to get in-state tuition at every jurisdiction.

How do you know he really said all these things -- were you there in the meeting with him?

So, you are telling us, you take your TeA with cream? :laugh:

If he's starting his 4th semester, and earned a C, two D's and an F in his major, here are things I'd want to know: o) Assuming he sticks with his major, often introductory courses are prerequisites for later classes, and prereqs often must be passed with a C or better. Does he have to re-take all three classes he got D's and Fs in, in order to make progress in his major? Often, at small schools, these are offered only once a year. If so, how many years is he going to take to graduate? He should have a tentative schedule for all the classes he is going to take from now to graduation -- what does that look like, and how long is it going to take? Is this matched up to the actual schedule of when classes are offered? Taking five or six years to graduate is going to be much more expensive that just missing one semester of scholarship. Even if he does graduate in five or six years, unless he turns it around, and gets A's in his upper division classes, it may be hard to find a job with such a low GPA, even in a good field like computer science. o) If he does switch majors, can he finish in four years total, or is that also putting him on the five/six year plan? o) If he's getting such low grades that he is now failing to make satisfactory academic progress for scholarships, is he also on academic probation? If so, is he also flirting with academic suspension? No matter how many classes he takes this semester, what grade does he need in each of them to get off of academic probation, and not get kicked out of school? o) Why is this an issue now? If he was getting poor grades in his first year, I'd want to put in corrective action plan immediately. It is his responsibility to get good advising. If he doesn't like his adviser, I'm sure he can switch, but he needs to take responsibility for this, and go to his adviser, and listen to what he or she has to say.

I assume you mean classical Greek, not modern Greek? Generally, I'd go with interest, but Greek is much harder than Latin, there's few good textbooks for pre-college ages, and there's no AP Greek, or SAT Greek, when it comes to that.

Perhaps you need to be the change trolling you wish to see in this world. :laugh: