1. I have pcos. Diagnosed 18 years ago. 2. I said nothing about pcos & attraction, YOU brought that up 3. Bigotry? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. 4. A female specific medical issue has nothing to do with diagnoses of sexual development (intersex) or trans and it is both incorrect and offensive to say it does. I'm not less of a woman or a little bit or a man because my unbalanced hormones affect my ovaries That was my point.

Lol Insults don't make your case. Google can help you. Though I suggest keeping some eye/brain bleach nearby. Sexual attraction does have to do with specific bodies. To say otherwise (not saying you're saying otherwise ksera) is pretty homophobic, amongst other things.

Please feel free to point out any bs. I'm more than happy to discuss this. Yes, you sound like an activist. An ignorant one. S!ssy is not my word, it's theirs, they love it. Good luck convincing people that 'attraction has zero to do with the body' - pretty sure gay men and women would have some issue with that 'framing'

Which is s!ssy hypn0? I personally think it's not really either, but more a narcissistic paraphilia.

Poly cystic OVARIAN syndrome only affects the FEMALE BODY. Attraction is not gender identity. 'They' is the activists that keep posting those awfully sexist 'sex spectrum' graphics.

Yep. There's also the s!ssy hypn0 variety (don't google) & the extreme degradation.

Yep, they've been running the 'pcos etc is on the intersex spectrum' stuff for ages - which is very offensive imo. Someone here told me they were 'hormonally intersex.' A lot of girls who declare a trans identity and take testosterone feel better - which makes sense because testosterone boosts energy & helps with dopamine production - and use this as proof that they must be truly intersex somewhere deep down. Eta - also our brains are plastic & highly malleable. Our actions *do* influence our brain. P0rn is a gigantic elephant in the room...

The 'identity' is psychologically entrenched and socially reified making the child much less likely to feel able to drop it.

I just... don't believe it. And pretending it's true seems awfully cruel. I've met the most passingly passing trans people and there are still tells in real life. I may not immediately consciously guess trans but my brain is hiccuping, because there is something that doesn't fit. Hormones don't change gait or skull/hand size, for a start. There are thousands of ways our sexed bodies are differentiated that our brains are exceptionally good at recognising. We are sexually reproducing mammals, recognising the sex of members of our species is what we do. I also think the push to medicalise younger and younger in order to 'pass' better is unconscionable.

Yep. We're further down this path and I'll just say, these toxic people didn't have my parenting-back when it was really needed and absolutely helped ruin relationships. Beyond repair. Devastating.

I'm glad you're doing okay. So will they keep you in until the results come on Thursday?

Which hospital Melissa? I'll DM you.

Far out Melissa, I'm so sorry!

Missed this. Every girl in my school had read the whole series by the end of 6th grade. I would have been 10-11 years old. I really liked them...

😄 This was my oldest, and no way was I reading them lol. I guess I do censor for insipidity. And aggressive annoyingness.

I censored those stupid rainbow fairy books. Monstrosities. Actually, I limited them to 1 a library visit. I had a kid who would latch on to unhealthy imagery (written or visual) and be unable to regulate. Mainly I tried to moderate with balance, exposure to good stuff and lots of discussion. I very rarely said no. Sometimes we read it together (eg miss peregrine). They read the giver, hunger games, lots of teen dystopia (went through a maze runner phase), 1984 between around 7th-10th If anything I'd go back and censor more. That dark teen dystopia stuff can be too much, imo.

There's also apparently a scene in the bbc pride & prejudice with colin firth that doesn't exist that people swear they remember. Something about a wet white shirt, many women remember it vividly 😄 Eta https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/tv/bbc-pride-and-prejudice-mr-darcy-s-lake-exit/amp

Wonderful news!

Oh my word just seeing this, thank goodness for a mostly good update. I'm so so sorry Melissa what a nightmare. If you're still in Melb and need anything over the next few days, please let me know. 🙏

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I get what you mean, I really do and we were always conscious of avoiding making our hs kids extra weird, but to play devil's advocate, if this is their childhood complaint then they are remarkably blessed. Perhaps what they're really missing isn't 'culture' but 'perspective/gratefulness' with maybe a dose of 'maturity.' Sometimes homeschooled kids tend to blame all their awkwardness on homeschool, when it's often just life. Lots of people don't fit in for lots of reasons. Reading literature instead of watching tv is a much better reason than violent stepdad for example, in my experience. 🤷‍♀️

Sure, I respect that position. We have real nazis here too, the women had nothing to do with them but still get blamed. So I am very wary of the 'supporting nazis' 'nazi aligned' garbage as another way to silence women and punish them for daring to speak.

I understand that boundary. My question is what is the other option. Women have been very severely silenced from even discussing this issue. Bans. Lawsuits. Decades of work lost. Much worse. The left has lost a lot of former supporters - who have not turned right wing - because of this. Our greens party here is currently imploding over this issue (they kicked out a gender critical woman, they kept a pedophile-apologist man 🤷‍♀️) 'No debate' was pushed & enforced by the pro-trans side. It's a bit rich to then punish women for getting their story out however they can. Eta - not working with Nazis, obviously, but interviewing on 'right wing' platforms. And after seeing up close how easily nazi is thrown around, I'm reeeeeally skeptical about lumping anyone slightly less than extreme left as 'right wing nazi', ymmv in your location.

Make the males an open/unisex option. Because the only alternative is the opposite or free for all, which only increases risk for everyone. And instead of campaigning against women having boundaries, campaign for respectful compromise.

I'll pm you @prairiewindmomma and anyone else interested in my friend's experience, pm me. But I will say, I have known her since we were teenagers, she is more compassionate and puts-her-money-where-her-mouth-is kind than anyone else I have ever met. She has had her whole trauma history exposed, her children threatened, been degraded & outright lied about through all of our media (hence defamation). I am very protective, so if you're looking for 'context' to brush this off, then just block me now.