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  1. Yes, I want homeschool parents to hold themselves accountable!
  2. I'm not getting into the game of answering every hypothetical are they homeschoolers situation. I've given my definition. I've explained why I think it's important.
  3. No, that's not the question. I'm not sure why you think that plenty of homeschoolers didn't start out thrown into it by circumstance? Have we ever said anything about being the best homeschooler? This isn't about being competitive, this is about being clear. I don't care if someone calls themselves a homeschooler day to day. I do care if the face of homeschooling in the eyes of law makers becomes 'any alternative to the traditional classroom' rather than 'parents who take on the responsibility of their child's education.'
  4. They might be. But there are plenty who are seeing it as exactly the same as school until real school comes back. Many don't want out of the institution, they want an institution approved teacher running an institution approved curriculum that will seamlessly transition them back into their normal institution school when it's safe. I can sympathize with that mindset but I think it's dangerous to lump it under homeschooling - because of the messy chain of accountability.
  5. I think that it could potentially include pod-schoolers. This is our point, it needs to be thought through - mainly by the parents! Jumping from one classroom model to another gives a false sense of continuance.
  6. Okay square, the legal terms come from somewhere to describe something, otherwise they are meaningless. Do you think the term homeschooling is meaningless? Why are one set of parents subject to these regulations and not another? What is the difference between homeschooling parents and school parents? I might suggest that your response here- only being able to think about this in terms of what the system allows - is a very institutionalised mindset. I'm not a homeschooler because the state says I am, I'm a homeschooler because I've stepped outside the institution. I register as a courtesy
  7. Thank you for your reply. You won't be shocked to know that I disagree 😄 This is a circular and cart-before-horse definition. How did they know who to register? The terms in the regulations have meaning, they are describing a state - not creating it. There were homeschoolers when there was no regulation and it was not exactly legal. There are still many unregistered homeschoolers. My question is, what is the difference between homeschooling parent and a parent who sends their kid to a traditional school? You and others insist that the parent retains the full responsibility and
  8. Okay, I feel like we're talking past each other so let me try a different way. What do you think is the difference between homeschooling and public schooling? Just the location? Because you've said that parents still have ultimate responsibility, still choose a school so therefore it's their educational vision etc. So what is the difference in your opinion? I've already defined homeschooling in an earlier post, I can't explain my point further until I understand how you're hearing me.
  9. My bold - I never said anything about checking out. Stop putting words in my mouth when I'm trying very hard to be clear. They are handing off responsibility to the institution, that's what institutions are for. That's not necessarily a bad thing! But it is different to homeschooling. I agree with your last sentence and imo have never said anything that disagrees with it.
  10. I get that you don't see the distinction, and I don't know how to put it more clearly. It's not about the delivery, it's about the accountability. I don't care what the education department in my state says is 3rd grade math or 6th grade history. It may be that I end up teaching - or subcontracting the teaching - what looks like the same topics, but the curriculum (the overarching educational trajectory, goals and priorities) is different.
  11. They have my sympathy. They also have my clarity, pretending that partially emulating the authority and responsibility of the institutional education system is homeschooling is not helpful. It muddies the accountability. Maybe not a big deal to you, a huge deal to me. I don't want homeschoolers to pay the price with less appropriate regulations because every situation that doesn't look exactly like traditional schooling gets shoved under the homeschool umbrella legally.
  12. I never said they were hands off! The parents have subcontracted the authority over their child's education to a (probably decent) school. That's not a bad thing, I'm not judging them. Its just different.
  13. Because I would have decided that signing up for your class fits within my curriculum.
  14. I do, because crisis schoolers need to understand that choosing to take on the responsibility of their child's education is a serious thing. Its not about individual books or classes.
  15. Because they are trusting the teacher with the responsibility of selection as well as implementation of a curriculum (not just resources.)
  16. Oh come on. I never said people who don't homeschool don't have educational vision. I said whose educational vision are you subscribing to? I guess the whole 'give us the benefit of the doubt' thing is being ignored?
  17. I'm asking the question. Who is the ultimate person responsible in a pod school? In homeschool, it's the parents. In institution school, it's the principal.
  18. Look, square, I appreciate that you are passionate and genuine. I appreciate that you have some specialist knowledge that can be helpful on this board. But you are coming across as quite patronizing. Many of us have been homeschooling, learning about educational pedagogy and discussing all of that here on this board for decades. We've done pages and pages on the nuances of Gatto, on educational authority, on parents vs child's rights. I'm not at all suggesting that you have to trawl through all of that before joining the conversation, but I am suggesting that you might want to give us som
  19. I haven't read all the replies but I agree with you OKBud. Part of the issue, imo, is that the normalization of 'homeschooling' to mean 'teachers and curriculum decided by the state, but maybe some of it is not in a school building' undermines what homeschooling is. What then is homeschooling? When the parents take on the responsibility of educating their children. The meaning isn't in the delivery, it's in the accountability. It is serious to decide to take responsibility for your child's education. Muddying the meaning doesn't help to emphasize that to parents. If you want to encou
  20. Pearl, Noelle, Caroline, Vanessa, Agnes, Ada Thaddeus, Enoch, Jethro, Elijah, Titus
  21. I agree. I make a deliberate effort to include female authors and protagonists in the books my sons read. For example, my oldest son loved The Little Princess and Little Women. I'm currently reading aloud What Katy Did to my 9 & 6 year old boys. I never wanted to encourage the idea of girl vs boy books, they're all books.
  22. I like Montessori style for that age. A lot of experiential tasks available that the child can do themselves. Nature. Music. Books. Blocks. Art - gross motor like paint on an easel. Habit training. Free play.
  23. Oh wow, a page a day for an 8 year old is not at all what Susan Wise Bauer recommends! I really, really, second the advice to listen to her audio workshops - especially the ones on writing! They are so very helpful and practical and encouraging. The other thing I wanted to comment on, the 'boring' parts are actually just skill building. There isn't really a way to practice handwriting except to practice handwriting. You can use different colours, different copywork selections, but at the end of the day you need pencil in hand. I would keep it short and sweet (ie, one SHORT sentence
  24. Firstly, acknowledge that what you are trying to do is hard! It's not you, it's hard work to homeschool multiple children. Your older ones complaining a lot sounds to me like they are not owning their education, they've just transferred education ownership from the school/teacher to you. That's why their work ethic is bad (well, that and they are kids/teens!), because they're not invested for themselves. I have similar ages (9th and 7th) and they really do better when they have some say and some control. I give them a lot of say in what they want to learn and how, with parameters. I
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