I don’t think all kids need to go to college, but I think that they need to have a few different plans that will allow them to support themselves if one of their other paths isn’t successful. A college degree has some built in flexibility when applying for positions that a non degree/certification path doesn’t offer. I don’t know about careers in martial arts, but teaching dance would not be enough to support oneself. It is also a physically demanding job with hours that are not necessarily amenable to being home with children, especially if those children are schooled out of the home. While it may look like a great choice now, the physical demands and hours may not be as attractive in the future.

RootAnn, I made the same comment to her as we were debating all sides on Wednesday. I told her that I thought that we'd be looking back and laughing at how worried we were. Thank you all again for the support!

Thank you all for talking us through this. She decided on the flagship 😊. Many of your comments helped us. She said that when she imagined making the decision, she couldn’t wait to tell the professors at the flagship. We both think it’s the right decision, and yes, I think not being able to attend another school she was accepted to made it harder. I really appreciate you all sharing your thoughts. It was a time when we really needed to hear that it was going to be ok, so thank you!

Decision is not completely made. I won’t be home for a few hours and she’s waiting to talk with me again. is financial aid available for a masters or is that a whole different animal?

We’re reading all the responses, so thank you!

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We've asked about undergrad research opportunity, accelerating graduation because of many AP credits and dd would like to certify in both elementary and secondary ed, if possible (maybe using those AP credits to do so). We've run across a real mid tier school where this is standard and yet many, both more and less selective schools, act as if we are suggesting something absolutely impossible and get defensive, acting quite condescending. Had one selective school tell us that of course dd could eventually do research but when the professor described what that would look like, she said that dd might be able to join a journal club that read articles that have been published and "just see what types of things have been published". Sophomore year she could begin to look at what types of research practices are important to consider when researching....not exactly our timeline or depth of interest. When she asked another school what types of opportunities were available for undergrad research in the Ed Department they told us that the professors were "all scholars and researchers" and not to worry that they would help her figure something out. Yet another school told her to not get ahead of herself and just start taking classes and they could come up with an opportunity to "go to Finland and study their education system" with her???????? or whatever else she was interested in. The two schools open to research who were excited to speak with dd about research opportunities that their undergrads take part in look like they'll be out of reach financially. We're going to ask if they'll consider matching her other financial packages, but the things I read online about negotiating more aid with these two schools aren't encouraging. We just spoke with the faculty of one selective school on Thursday, and they were not receptive to a double major (not double certification), which I thought was pretty standard. The President said that she couldn't imagine why anyone would double major (????). The professor that we spoke with at that same school discouraged dd saying it was "a real mixed bag". We suspect it may be partly because students are getting closed out of classes that they need, but that's really just a guess on our part since students on the panel discussed that as a drawback of the school. Three more schools - tomorrow, Monday and Tuesday and then one next Monday. My feeling from speaking with parents on these tours and that we know is that most families don't speak with the faculty of the Department their students will be majoring in. It's been illuminating and disappointing. Not really what you asked, but almost every school also claims to do X, Y or Z that is unique to them and yet...it's not. Each school we've been to says that their students have the opportunity to be placed into a classroom early on unlike other schools. Literally every single one. And every one says that in most other schools Ed Majors can't study abroad, but that their Ed Majors can. We haven't found one that says they can't.

Definitely still deciding and going to every accepted students day we can go to 🙂 We spent last weekend at 3 different schools in 3 states and will be spending Thursday, Saturday-Monday at another 4 with more to follow. The considerations are definitely heavily influenced by finances. BC still hasn't sent her the financial package but she went up this weekend and loved the school. Others have great financial packages but have some serious concerns associated with them. I'm utterly and completely exhausted from the visits but have been learning so much. I can't tell you how many Deans/Department Heads have not been receptive to basic questions that are outside the box. It's been really disheartening to see. I think we have 6 schools left to visit and some of those would require negotiating more aid if she were to want to attend. What we've learned in person is invaluable but I look forward to having a decision 🙂

Or we can meet up for accepted students day!😊

Dd accepted to Boston University, Connecticut College and Vassar😊

Dd was just accepted to Boston College 🙂

My dad fis apply to selective schools this year to see if she was lucky. Hadn’t thought if the statistics in terms of cheating and bribing. It’s also disheartening to know that these would be your peers if you were accepted.

Mount Holyoke 😂

Dd received a likely letter 🙂 She's been accepted to the first round of schools that she applied to and we're just beginning the second round of the highly selective schools where I'm sure the stats won't be as good. We're looking for the best merit aid/financial package so the decision won't be made until the last decisions are in....After the years of raised eyebrows and offhand comments about homeschooling, I feel so validated. And, of course, I'm just thrilled for dd!

No personal experience for us. My dd took APUSH with Susan Richman. There was another thread regarding her not too long ago that wasn't very favorable. I can't search it right now, but I know it exists!

Yes, it’s not recommended that you apply ED if you need aid. You can call the school and speak with their financial aid office to try to get a more accurate idea of a possible financial aid package. HTH!

My older dd took both AP Lang and Lit with Maya Inspektor at PAH and enjoyed it. They were asynchronous and very organized.

I think ds may be picking up something about the cancellations that are making him upset. We know a situation recently where the girl was using timely rejection to keep the boy from disengaging. He was displaying emotions similar to your ds, and friends and family saw a link to the relationship. This girl had a busy schedule and parents too busy to drive, except when they weren’t! The boy in this case had very little ability to see what was happening, just felt the emotions and then was angry at himself for feeling them because she was “busy”, not rejecting him, right? It’s a great opportunity to talk about friendship and balance and if the same behavior would make one upset in a different relationship. The friends weighing in may be the best way they know how to say that she’s not the best choice and not treating him right.

Thanks for all your feedback!

Hi all, Dd has several Ivy interviews in the next few days/weeks, and we’re looking for The Hive’s recommendation on what to wear. We’ve read suit or business casual and then no suit if it’s at a Starbucks. This may be more difficult than the interview itself! Please weigh in with specifics and where we’d find them. She has a navy suit she used for MUN that we thought she’d wear but want to hear your feedback. Thanks!

My daughter is taking this class this year. She had a different class with someone who had taken the art history as a sophomore , I believe, and had recommended the class. I found her material that’s available to view on the PAH website to be very organized and thorough.

I’ve been on one twice and both times they didn’t pass out life vests. I’m an extremely poor swimmer so I was really nervous. On another small biar excursion I was the only one to request vests for me and my kids and the general consensus was that I was extreme.

So sorry for your loss

I agree that you're handling this all in such a healthy way. I suspect that the most difficult time is right now as you think about it and that once you're there, you'll have a wonderful time - on your own schedule and you're own way! You know that saying about there never being a vacuum...something else wonderful will fill the place that you once shared with this friend. I think it's hard when you don't really understand the true underlying issues of why a friendship ends but not everyone wants to share their reasons :)

There’s amazing video of the rescue inside the cave here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/7/11/17561932/thai-cave-rescue-boys-stretcher