StaceyL in Canada Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 If you used SWB's SOTW volumes for history is approximately grades 1-4, what do you use for gr 5-8? Her books came out when my older sons were past gr 1-4, and I've yet to begin ancient history with my youngest next year in gr 5--for various reasons, I spent his gr 1-4 years on world geography and Canadian history and geography. I've been looking at such programs as WP for ancients, but I'm not impressed by the samples I've seen of one of their main texts, Mystery of History. Can one use WP's ancients program without it? I do own the Oxford First Ancient History, which I do like, so could focus on that...(though looking ahead at WP's middle ages program, I see that they use MOH 2....) Just wondering what others have used and liked for ancient history for the gr 5-8ish years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avila Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 We are doing History Odyssey Ancients 2 from Pandia Press for my 4th (soon to be 5th) grader. We love it! It uses the Kingfisher History Encyclopedia as the spine along with several supplemental books. It is teaching outlining and summarizing skills, and it includes the maps and assigns mapwork in the guidebook. I also really like how it is broken up by lessons instead of weeks, so I can assign it as I want to and not feel overwhelmed. I also add in some historical fiction to make it more fun. It really makes WTM history very simplified for us for this age group. Pandia Press offers a generous try it before you buy it free download so you can see what it has to offer and whether it will fit your family. Good luck! There are a lot of good history programs to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HiddenJewel Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I'd second History Odyssey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDay Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Beautiful Feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzdaisy Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I Third History Oddessey. We are using Ancients 2 also and love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula in PA Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We're not at the logic stage yet, but we are planning it. The tentative plan is to use the WTM method with the Kingfisher History Encyclopedia and the DK History: The Definitive Visual Guide. We are, however, waiting for the revised WTM before finallizing it, just in case something besides the encyclopedia recommendation has changed and we like it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyL in Canada Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 I Third History Oddessey. We are using Ancients 2 also and love it. Thanks... I do actually have this (bought it years ago for older sons but never used it). Will have to look it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We're doing SOTW all over again. My oldest is going further and deeper, lots of extra readings and assignments to match his skill level. My second and third are being exposed to most of the SOTW stuff for the first time and it keeps us all on the same path. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasta Mom Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We will use SOTW as our spine, a few encyclopedias, outlining, mapwork, and reading galore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tami Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 If you used SWB's SOTW volumes for history is approximately grades 1-4, what do you use for gr 5-8? Her books came out when my older sons were past gr 1-4, and I've yet to begin ancient history with my youngest next year in gr 5--for various reasons, I spent his gr 1-4 years on world geography and Canadian history and geography. I've been looking at such programs as WP for ancients, but I'm not impressed by the samples I've seen of one of their main texts, Mystery of History. Can one use WP's ancients program without it? I do own the Oxford First Ancient History, which I do like, so could focus on that...(though looking ahead at WP's middle ages program, I see that they use MOH 2....) Just wondering what others have used and liked for ancient history for the gr 5-8ish years. We are beginning our second cycle with ancients next year, and we are using Diana Waring's newly revised "Ancient Civilizations and the Bible." I love it because it uses multiple intelligences ideas, and gives many "outside the box" assignment options. I bought the package at her website, and you can download a sample chapter there. I can't wait to get started on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in SW WA Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Ds 8th is now reading Spielvogel's Human Odyssey. It has tests, study guide, mapwork, etc. Great program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy in ME Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We went back to TOG this for 4th and 6th and will continue next year for 7th and 5th. I love it now that I feel comfortable choosing just what works for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Stacey, Are you looking at the Jr. High or the 4-6 grade program? QAW actually has three spines: MOH, Usborne Encyclopedia of the Ancient World and Oxford First Ancient History. There has been people who have dropped one of the spines and did fine. For QMA I would think you could buy the Jr. High program, which uses World Atlas of the Past: The Medieval World and between that text and Famous Men of the Renaissance and Reformation you would be fine. Though you might want to look at samples of MOH 2. Their difference in detail level between the two. MOH 2 has a lot more detail and longer chapters. Unless you don't want the coverage of Church History (and Biblical history in volume 1), in which case you would just want to drop it. Another possibility would be to add SOTW. There are multiple schedules that show how MOH and SOTW line up, so that might be an option. My 5th grader is doing TOG, using History of the US as a spine with other books added in. For 6th grade we should finish the 20th century, and for 7th start Ancients again. This time with TOG as our frame work and MOH and Guerber books (I think) as her spines....though I reserve the right to change my mind a lot between now and then. :D Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyL in Canada Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 Stacey, Are you looking at the Jr. High or the 4-6 grade program? QAW actually has three spines: MOH, Usborne Encyclopedia of the Ancient World and Oxford First Ancient History. There has been people who have dropped one of the spines and did fine. For QMA I would think you could buy the Jr. High program, which uses World Atlas of the Past: The Medieval World and between that text and Famous Men of the Renaissance and Reformation you would be fine. Though you might want to look at samples of MOH 2. Their difference in detail level between the two. MOH 2 has a lot more detail and longer chapters. Unless you don't want the coverage of Church History (and Biblical history in volume 1), in which case you would just want to drop it. Another possibility would be to add SOTW. There are multiple schedules that show how MOH and SOTW line up, so that might be an option. My 5th grader is doing TOG, using History of the US as a spine with other books added in. For 6th grade we should finish the 20th century, and for 7th start Ancients again. This time with TOG as our frame work and MOH and Guerber books (I think) as her spines....though I reserve the right to change my mind a lot between now and then. :D Heather This would be for approximately gr 4-7. I'm trying to streamline this as much as possible as I'm considering offering Ancient History in a co-op setting again. Last time (a few years ago), I used The Pageant of World History as our "spine" so that all the kids (gr 6-8 or so) would have at least oen common source of info. They then used assorted other books of their choice to add resources for assignments. I'd much prefer not to be juggling several spines for convenience sake, and also because I suspect most parents will not want to spend lots of $$ on materials. I'm not sure MOH I would work for me personally, as I don't tend to care for evangelical Christian material with a strong young earth emphasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyL in Canada Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 Ds 8th is now reading Spielvogel's Human Odyssey. It has tests, study guide, mapwork, etc. Great program. Yes, but we use that in high school :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 This would be for approximately gr 4-7. I'm trying to streamline this as much as possible as I'm considering offering Ancient History in a co-op setting again. Last time (a few years ago), I used The Pageant of World History as our "spine" so that all the kids (gr 6-8 or so) would have at least oen common source of info. They then used assorted other books of their choice to add resources for assignments. I'd much prefer not to be juggling several spines for convenience sake, and also because I suspect most parents will not want to spend lots of $$ on materials. I'm not sure MOH I would work for me personally, as I don't tend to care for evangelical Christian material with a strong young earth emphasis. Stacey, That makes sense to me, but means WP is probably out. Hmmm, have you looked at which spines TruthQuest uses? I was just thinking that if you are looking for more of a booklist, then TQ might work really well, but only if one of the spines it schedules would work for you. Not sure that is what you are looking for, but that is the only other option I can think of that might fit. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfly113 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Check out the new Ancients by Heart of Dakota. Their first one is due out now, and a new one for the next three to complete the cycle. http://www.heartofdakota.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We did SOTW for grades 3-6, then All American History. But then, we will only do Ancients to Modern twice in our rotation. We plan to use SWB's books for high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhondaM. Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 For 5th and 6th we used TQ History (for commentary and history/lit suggestions) with the Guerber spines (love Guerber!) and KQ for mapwork. This year for 7th we did a little bit of Beautiful Feet but didn't get very far ...too much LIFE happened... For 8th we are using the history portion of SL 100 (mainly the SL notes for History of Us) and a Hewitt Hisory of US Guide. Included in the Hewitt guide are test, projects and scheduled research papers. Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Marple Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Stacey, we've used MOH in our co-op for those grades. It is a great program esp. because of the set up (very co-op friendly). IMO, it is a step up from SOTW in the assignments, reading, and thought required. I like SOTW for the younger kids, MOH for upper elem and junior high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kRenee Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We tried History Odyssey and neither of us like it. Ended up using the books that Calvert uses and they were quite good, but they only cover 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We used TOG Year 1 Redesigned when one of my sons was in 8th grade. Loved it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaLisa Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Stacey, We used Streams of Civilization I along with the Greenleaf Guide to the Old Testament for Ancients. I would put Streams right at a middle school level, but perhaps a bit too much for 5th grade. I've used other things, but not so successfully and now my dc are doing history in a co-op. By the way, good to see you back on the boards. I pray that all is well with you and your boys! :001_smile: Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyL in Canada Posted March 14, 2009 Author Share Posted March 14, 2009 Stacey, We used Streams of Civilization I along with the Greenleaf Guide to the Old Testament for Ancients. I would put Streams right at a middle school level, but perhaps a bit too much for 5th grade. I've used other things, but not so successfully and now my dc are doing history in a co-op. By the way, good to see you back on the boards. I pray that all is well with you and your boys! :001_smile: Lisa :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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