Roadrunner Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) There seems to be some conflicting information online. I am particularly interested in bones. I know cooked bones are strictly forbidden, but is it OK for my puppy eat all raw bones safely? Are raw chicken wings OK? What about beef? What about sweet potatos mixed with raw meat? Edited February 18, 2019 by Roadrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 dogs should never have chicken bones. they splinter and can pierce their GI. much as puppy loves chicken meat/broth-on--kibble - it gives him diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, gardenmom5 said: dogs should never have chicken bones. they splinter and can pierce their GI. much as puppy loves chicken meat/broth-on--kibble - it gives him diarrhea. Cooked ones splinter, but raw ones don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 You won't find any definitive information on this, although you will no doubt find many people who claim to have the definitive answer. That said, there are many, many people who raw feed their dogs very successfully. But despite what many of them will insist, there are also many dogs who don't do well on a raw diet--and not because of the owner not doing it "right". I'd be careful with beef bones. The weight bearing ones can break teeth. IIRC ribs are considered okay. Raw chicken bones won't splinter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Pawz4me said: You won't find any definitive information on this, although you will no doubt find many people who claim to have the definitive answer. That said, there are many, many people who raw feed their dogs very successfully. But despite what many of them will insist, there are also many dogs who don't do well on a raw diet--and not because of the owner not doing it "right". I'd be careful with beef bones. The weight bearing ones can break teeth. IIRC ribs are considered okay. Raw chicken bones won't splinter. This. Although I will clarify - raw MEATY bones are what is suggested, as the meat cushions things. There are those who have great success, including veterinarians (check out Billinghurst or Lonsdale, both vets). There are those who have terrible results, including choking, impactions, etc. Same with kibble. Dogs that live full, healthy lives on kibble (dog life spans have increased, despite what raw proponents try to say). And dogs that do terribly and do better on raw. Honestly - do what works. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. And keep in mind the talthough dogs don't usually get sick from raw meat, if the puppy drags raw chicken all over the kids COULD get sick from contact with the juices/germs. I feed raw bones in kennels when I feed them, for that reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-rap Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, Ktgrok said: This. Although I will clarify - raw MEATY bones are what is suggested, as the meat cushions things. There are those who have great success, including veterinarians (check out Billinghurst or Lonsdale, both vets). There are those who have terrible results, including choking, impactions, etc. Same with kibble. Dogs that live full, healthy lives on kibble (dog life spans have increased, despite what raw proponents try to say). And dogs that do terribly and do better on raw. Honestly - do what works. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. And keep in mind the talthough dogs don't usually get sick from raw meat, if the puppy drags raw chicken all over the kids COULD get sick from contact with the juices/germs. I feed raw bones in kennels when I feed them, for that reason. I just want to say that I love that quote! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 My puppy doesn’t want to eat kibble. He sits in the kitchen and wails for meat. We gave him some chicken because he was such a poor eater with kibble alone and now it’s even worse. I don’t want to mix meat with kibble (somebody told me mixing wasn’t a good idea), but I also want there to be some balance to his food (not chicken all the time). I tried giving him a chicken tight and he devoured it with mean and bones. I am just not sure how to really get a menu going for this puppy and what sorts of stuff is allowed. He can’t just eat chicken tights alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 We started making our own food for picky. I use beef liver or chicken hearts ( which ever one I get first), ground beef, veggies, pumpkin or sweet potato, flax and rice. It has work very well and all dogs in this house give it several paws. Vet is very happy with how the pup is doing now. With the instant pot, I can throw it in and make about 1.5 weeks worth at once. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, itsheresomewhere said: We started making our own food for picky. I use beef liver or chicken hearts ( which ever one I get first), ground beef, veggies, pumpkin or sweet potato, flax and rice. It has work very well and all dogs in this house give it several paws. Vet is very happy with how the pup is doing now. With the instant pot, I can throw it in and make about 1.5 weeks worth at once. Home cooked food comprises the majority of our dog’s diet. I’ve found over the years and several dogs that it’s what has worked best for the majority of them. For a puppy/young dog I would want to pay careful attention to balancing the phosphorous:calcium ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Pawz4me said: Home cooked food comprises the majority of our dog’s diet. I’ve found over the years and several dogs that it’s what has worked best for the majority of them. For a puppy/young dog I would want to pay careful attention to balancing the phosphorous:calcium ratio. Any recepies to share? Edited February 18, 2019 by Roadrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbcdeDooDah Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I want to try this one as soon as my puppy is a year. https://www.drjudymorgan.com/how-to-make-homemade-puploaf/ It looks pretty good. I also want to try supplementing with raw. I'm switching my cats over to raw right now and they are loving it but I don't think I can afford that with a husky/shepherd mix! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, AbcdeDooDah said: I want to try this one as soon as my puppy is a year. https://www.drjudymorgan.com/how-to-make-homemade-puploaf/ It looks pretty good. I also want to try supplementing with raw. I'm switching my cats over to raw right now and they are loving it but I don't think I can afford that with a husky/shepherd mix! Fancy! Where would I get organ meat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbcdeDooDah Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Roadrunner said: Fancy! Where would I get organ meat? I've seen most of them at the grocery store, usually in little plastic tubs. Mexican markets would most likely have more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Roadrunner said: Any recepies to share? When we had two bigger dogs I used to do batch cooking and followed recipes (more or less). And I think I do still have some of them, but they're packed away in a box up in the attic. When we moved to this house three years ago we were down to our one small dog, and he eats so little I usually manage to fix his food from whatever we're having (plus a little organ meat thrown in a couple of times a week). I'm pretty sure my old dog food recipe file is up in the attic, along with some other things we wanted to keep but never unpacked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Petco now sells the Just Food For Dogs supplement, that you mix with a recipe. https://www.justfoodfordogs.com/diy?keyword=justfordogs&campaign=branded&affiliateid=4&gclid=Cj0KCQiAzKnjBRDPARIsAKxfTRAXSKe3CRy9ANXFOeUsaJcegB1zYtv7-SHgrXZ2ZSFaZAFh4HVFRfoaAoOUEALw_wcB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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