CA homeschool charters

[Roadrunner]

This year we are homeschooling with the charter school and I know next year we could claim high school credit for foreign language. I am looking at precooked French 3 syllabus and I really don't want to go that route. While we intend to stay with the charter in 7th and 8th (we need the funds), we most likely be homeschooling independently in high school to avoid administrative headache. I don't want not to be able to give my kid much deserved credit in foreign language in 7th and 8th, but I also don't want to teach what I am told (I am convinced I can do better than that syllabus). Assuming I will be issuing a diploma for high school, could I list foreign language credit as courses completed in middle school even though I didn't get he official stamp from the current charter? I hope I am making sense.

[quark]

Different charters might have different rules/ ways of doing things. Some of our local charters only need to check off boxes (ETA: with high performing middle school students). And as long as parents incorporate some part or other of the recommended curriculum, the education consultant/specialist checks it off that the curriculum/ syllabus was used. Could you ask your EC/ ES for more info?

 

I believe once you file the PSA for high school, you should be fine listing what was covered on the college application. You might not even have to list the charter school as a source/ provider. If concerned about UCs, I don't believe they ask for middle school records. Perhaps, to be safe, keep your own records and copies of additional resources used just in case a uni asks for more information? Is he planning to take AP French? Would an AP French score validate this issue and reduce your headache?

 

Edited February 7, 2017 by quark

[Roadrunner]

We will probably take SAT subject exam French or AP if we can find a good provider. I am just worried that somebody could point us and say, no you were with charter and can't claim those credits if you didn't "officially" earn them. I think I have to file a log weekly of what we have done, but my concern isn't documentation so much, but how rigid their syllabus is. I don't want to be covering "cultural norms of teenagers...." for two weeks. That's an example of how restrictive their syllabus is.

[Ellie]

Some people here have said that when their children applied to colleges, some of the colleges specified that credits had to be earned within the immediate four years preceding the college application, which would mean that courses done in 7th and 8th wouldn't count.

 

Otherwise, you can put anything on your transcript you want. There won't be anyone who would challenge you about credits earned at a public school, which is what the charter is.

[Roadrunner]

Some people here have said that when their children applied to colleges, some of the colleges specified that credits had to be earned within the immediate four years preceding the college application, which would mean that courses done in 7th and 8th wouldn't count.

 

Otherwise, you can put anything on your transcript you want. There won't be anyone who would challenge you about credits earned at a public school, which is what the charter is.

Well only those credits won't be earned at a charter because I refuse to deal with their paperwork for credit, which is why we plan on withdrawing in high school. We will not file the paperwork for foreign language, but I still want the work recognized on the transcript that I will eventually issue myself. I hope I am making sense. CA allows for foreign language and math credits in middle school. Since DS takes math at aops, I don't worry about it.

[quark]

I don't think you have to worry about credits being official (eta: as in you probably won't have to take special pains/ overthink it). We are still waiting to hear back. If we have good news, I will share our path. :)

Edited February 7, 2017 by quark

[Ellie]

Well only those credits won't be earned at a charter because I refuse to deal with their paperwork for credit, which is why we plan on withdrawing in high school. We will not file the paperwork for foreign language, but I still want the work recognized on the transcript that I will eventually issue myself. I hope I am making sense. CA allows for foreign language and math credits in middle school. Since DS takes math at aops, I don't worry about it.

 

It doesn't matter. You can put anything you want on your transcript. No one verifies the credits.

 

That California allows for foreign language and math credits in middle school does not mean that some colleges won't question them. Just something to keep in mind, as that was the experience of several people here. :-)

[...................]

Yes it has more to do with the colleges than anything else. Are you looking to attend a UC ? If your student aims for a UC you have to worry about AG requirements.

 

Also, in general only math and foreign language done in middle school can count for high school. This is standard for the state of CA as well as all colleges. You can do whatever you want, but it would be sketch if a college asked you point blank and you had to admit that science credits were earned in middle school.

 

That said there are so many creative or off the beaten path ways to do it that I'm sure you can find ways that work.

 

Is your student planning on a UC?

[Roadrunner]

We are aiming for UCs (among others). So I want to give him credit for foreign language and math. Math is easy, because I have transcript from aops. Foreign language is another story. He will be studying two (only one with an online provider). We will eventually take an exam (SAT or AP), so I am not worried about a through g, I am just worried that somebody will ask for middle school transcript. Hmmmm, maybe I am worried for nothing.

[SeaConquest]

We are running into the same issue here. Our charter refuses to acknowledge the work my kid is doing on his transcript. So, when gets to Pre-A in 4th, they still want to put 4th grade math on his record. My EF is so clueless about what to do with my kid, she even said 1) that colleges don't like it when kids take high school classes before high school, and 2) that he might have to repeat the courses in high school to officially get credit. I basically laughed at her suggestion that MIT wants kids who take Algebra in 9th grade. My kid loves the charter socially, but it is clear that we are going to have to move him at some point. And we're having this issue with almost all of his coursework, since he's pretty globally accelerated. Sigh.

[Roadrunner]

We are running into the same issue here. Our charter refuses to acknowledge the work my kid is doing on his transcript. So, when gets to Pre-A in 4th, they still want to put 4th grade math on his record. My EF is so clueless about what to do with my kid, she even said 1) that colleges don't like it when kids take high school classes before high school, and 2) that he might have to repeat the courses in high school to officially get credit. I basically laughed at her suggestion that MIT wants kids who take Algebra in 9th grade. My kid loves the charter socially, but it is clear that we are going to have to move him at some point. And we're having this issue with almost all of his coursework, since he's pretty globally accelerated. Sigh.

I don't think it matters what they put on transcript until high school credits are concerned and that can only happen in 7th. Honestly, just ignore what they do. Our issues are just beginning since DS will be in 7th next year. We decided to delay taking geometry class until this summer (he will be done with the textbook by then) so I he can officially wrap the class up in 7th grade and I can show it on transcrip for UC purposes. UCs want geometry explicitly on transcript. I am not even going to show Algebra A and B at all. Ability to take higher level math implies that they have done lower ones. Geometry is the only exception. Foreign languages are a pain. Still figuring this out, but I am starting to think I am overreacting. I say just take their money until high school and then run your own thing. That's our plan.

[Arcadia]

The only ones concern with my kids elementary school transcripts were my school district office. The only ones concern with my kids middle school transcripts is private high schools and of course the school district if we apply for 9th grade. I don't think any colleges are going to care about how accurate my middle school transcripts are for my kids.

 

We are keeping two years of two languages on purpose for the high school years to buffer the DE my oldest would need for math and science. That would make four years worth of foreign languages. He'll take the SAT subject tests for the two languages because he likes tests and the two languages, german and chinese, are on different SAT test dates.

We are looking outside of state universities so going for the four years of foreign languages just to play safe. That's what private high school counselors suggest we do instead of showing only LOTE 3 and LOTE 4 for one LOTE language on the high school transcript.

We are running into the same issue here. Our charter refuses to acknowledge the work my kid is doing on his transcript. So, when gets to Pre-A in 4th, they still want to put 4th grade math on his record.

CAVA put in algebra 1 for 4th grade for my kid which prompt a grade skip when we applied back open enrollment to our school district. They put him in 6th instead of 5th, geometry is in middle school so that would have worked for a year :lol: We choose not to attend as we didn't get the open enrollment school. Edited February 8, 2017 by Arcadia

[SeaConquest]

I don't think it matters what they put on transcript until high school credits are concerned and that can only happen in 7th. Honestly, just ignore what they do. Our issues are just beginning since DS will be in 7th next year. We decided to delay taking geometry class until this summer (he will be done with the textbook by then) so I he can officially wrap the class up in 7th grade and I can show it on transcrip for UC purposes. UCs want geometry explicitly on transcript. I am not even going to show Algebra A and B at all. Ability to take higher level math implies that they have done lower ones. Geometry is the only exception. Foreign languages are a pain. Still figuring this out, but I am starting to think I am overreacting. I say just take their money until high school and then run your own thing. That's our plan.

We might apply to private schools later, which is why I was hoping his transcripts would accurately reflect the work.

[Roadrunner]

We might apply to private schools later, which is why I was hoping his transcripts would accurately reflect the work.

I haven't even considered that angle! I have a fourth grader as well who just wrapped up preAlgebra. 🤕

[Arcadia]

We might apply to private schools later, which is why I was hoping his transcripts would accurately reflect the work.

I haven't even considered that angle! I have a fourth grader as well who just wrapped up preAlgebra. 🤕

I just signed the Transcript Release and Confidentiality Form for private school applications. I have to fill out school history anyway. The private school gets the transcripts from all the schools I list on my kids school history from K onwards. I am pretty sure my kids state testing (from STARS to Smarter Balanced) results were also sent through that form.

 

ETA:

My kids public school transcripts are stored electronically. Their teacher printed a copy for me when my kid misplaced his in 1st grade. I just waited inside the classroom while she retrieved his record and print on the classroom laser printer.

Edited February 8, 2017 by Arcadia

[crazyforlatin]

Just be glad you all are not in SF or thinking of moving to SF. I recently checked their PS school site and emailed them. In order to skip algebra in 9th grade so that the student can take geometry that year, the student needs to have taken a UC approved algebra course in order to take a math placement exam. So if we decide to move and do PS in SF, that means DD will redo 3 years of math. But it also means she needs to take AOPS algebra A online soon so that we can show a transcript. She has to take geometry in 9th grade in order to graduate from an SF high school. Even if I were to have her start AOPS online geometry this summer for UC purposes (working through the book now) and show it to the high school, the district will not graduate her. And in order to apply to the top PS, I need to show a transcript for math, science, and social studies for 7th grade and first semester of 8th grade. DH asked if they would accept my grades. I highly, highly doubt it. And of course pass their HS entrance exam. So just to give us an option, I need to enroll DD in online classes with all this in mind. I have it partially sorted out, thanks to SVHS. BTW, DD asked what is social studies; apparently under that heading at SVHS, we can choose economics or US Government.

 

Private high schools offer more flexibility perhaps (?) but in SF they are like $25k to $40k per year. How much are kidneys going for these days?

[yvonne]

Some people here have said that when their children applied to colleges, some of the colleges specified that credits had to be earned within the immediate four years preceding the college application, which would mean that courses done in 7th and 8th wouldn't count.

 

 

It doesn't matter. You can put anything you want on your transcript. No one verifies the credits.

 

That California allows for foreign language and math credits in middle school does not mean that some colleges won't question them. Just something to keep in mind, as that was the experience of several people here. :-)

 

Can you cite your sources for this?  Or link a college site that states that high school FL credits earned in 7th and 8th grade can't be "counted."

 

We need to be super careful when giving second hand "information" that may or may not be correct or that may not be accurately summarizing what "some people" have said. Otherwise, there's a risk of misinformation which could lead the OP, and people in the OP's position reading this now and in the future, down the wrong path.

 

It's a plausible possibility, but it would be helpful to see the exact verbiage from the college.  My dd has two FL credits form 7th & 8th grade (done through a CA charter). She may or may not take a third year of that language in 9th-12th. Obviously, if she takes the third year in high school, it would validate the years she did in junior high. If she doesn't, I've been trying to tease out if I could still include yr 1 & yr 2 of that FL as "credits" on her high school record. I'm thinking it would be best just to include them as "taken prior to 9th grade" and not include them in her "credits" count.

 

Thanks

Edited February 8, 2017 by yvonne

[yvonne]

Just be glad you all are not in SF or thinking of moving to SF. I recently checked their PS school site and emailed them. In order to skip algebra in 9th grade so that the student can take geometry that year, the student needs to have taken a UC approved algebra course in order to take a math placement exam. So if we decide to move and do PS in SF, that means DD will redo 3 years of math.

 

It is insane, isn't it?

Just out of curiosity.... if your dd did PS in SF, could she dual enroll and/or take Alg 2 or higher to "validate" her Alg 1 class?

[Roadrunner]

My dd has two FL credits form 7th & 8th grade (done through a CA charter).

 

Thanks

Can I ask how much the charter dictated the curriculum? We are with OG. I would like to put together the course using CLE materials and literature instead of using precooked French 3.

[Roadrunner]

Just be glad you all are not in SF or thinking of moving to SF. I recently checked their PS school site and emailed them. In order to skip algebra in 9th grade so that the student can take geometry that year, the student needs to have taken a UC approved algebra course in order to take a math placement exam. So if we decide to move and do PS in SF, that means DD will redo 3 years of math. But it also means she needs to take AOPS algebra A online soon so that we can show a transcript. She has to take geometry in 9th grade in order to graduate from an SF high school. Even if I were to have her start AOPS online geometry this summer for UC purposes (working through the book now) and show it to the high school, the district will not graduate her. And in order to apply to the top PS, I need to show a transcript for math, science, and social studies for 7th grade and first semester of 8th grade. DH asked if they would accept my grades. I highly, highly doubt it. And of course pass their HS entrance exam. So just to give us an option, I need to enroll DD in online classes with all this in mind. I have it partially sorted out, thanks to SVHS. BTW, DD asked what is social studies; apparently under that heading at SVHS, we can choose economics or US Government.

 

Private high schools offer more flexibility perhaps (?) but in SF they are like $25k to $40k per year. How much are kidneys going for these days?

Are you considering PS for high school? More I think about how inflexible our local PS is, more I am leaning towards homeschooling high school. Your district sounds extremely unreasonable.

[yvonne]

Can I ask how much the charter dictated the curriculum? We are with OG. I would like to put together the course using CLE materials and literature instead of using precooked French 3.

 

We used OG through 9th for my boys and 8th for my dd.

 

They did not have an a-g French 3 when we did it, so I had a little more freedom. For the boys, I did use a standard US Fr. 3 text in 8th, which kept the ES happy. We supplemented w/ CLE, but I didn't bother including that in the monthly report.

 

One way to manage the French "specialist" is to have your student speak w/ her by phone. :)  I think doing that reassured ours that, no, she did not have to worry about whether we were doing enough.

[yvonne]

Another data point.... I was worried that, if we didn't do an official a-g French 1, 2, 3 (which we couldn't do anyway!) that my kids would have trouble transferring those "credits" into the public b&m high school and being able to get into the French 4/AP class. When we went through the process of registering w the ps, they had the boys meet w the hs French teacher, take a placement test, and do an oral interview. She didn't even ask anything about what they'd done previously. They placed into AP no problem. Their 7th and 8th grade credits were accepted. I don't know if those credits would have been included in their hs gpa, but they would have counted toward the school's graduation requirements.

 

With my dd, I didn't even bother doing the Fr credits as a-g courses in 7th & 8th. It wasn't worth the additional hassle. I figured doing Fr 3 or 4 at the b&m would validate the earlier credits.

 

Wasted tons of time and angst on the whole junior high a-g, "will this 'count,' etc questions. Now the only reason I can imagine to worry about all that is if a student wanted to do two or three years of a FL in junior high, not continue that FL at all in high school, but still "count" it towards the graduation requirement/college app requirement of three years one FL or two years of two FLs.

[yvonne]

Arcadia,

 

So do the oos colleges you've talked to require four years of one or two years of two FLs studied during the high school years? The requirement is years of study in 8th-12th, not to the 4th year level?

 

So, a student who takes AP German, for ex, in 10th grade would be expected to take two more years of German?

 

Have you seen it spelled out that way, or are you doing that to cover all bases, just in case?

[Arcadia]

When we went through the process of registering w the ps, they had the boys meet w the hs French teacher, take a placement test, and do an oral interview. She didn't even ask anything about what they'd done previously. They placed into AP no problem.

That's what the private schools told us, kids would be taking a school placement test anyway unless they are starting at LOTE 1. So they aren't particular about LOTE courses in middle school. Also colleges generally take passing the AP exam as equivalent of 4 years of LOTE, as in satisfying the 2/3/4 years of foreign language requirements, not as in being competitive for admissions.

 

My husband is considering OG because my 6th grader does a lot better in a classroom with lots of kids and our middle school has issues. I could make OG work for DS11 as he likes doing the minimum and doesn't mind workbooks for every subject so work samples are easy to get, can't figure how to make OG work for DS12.

[Roadrunner]

There is no classroom for OG. You can use their funds toward approved local classes, but you do so with your own funds and save yourself a headache.

 

Yvonne,

My understanding is we need 3 years of the same language. I don't think anybody conceived that a sophomore could pull of an AP FL exam.

Edited February 8, 2017 by Roadrunner

[Arcadia]

Arcadia,

 

So, a student who takes AP German, for ex, in 10th grade would be expected to take two more years of German?

 

Have you seen it spelled out that way, or are you doing that to cover all bases, just in case?

The out of country universities don't care. For US universities my kids are unfortunately the over-represented minority with the nerd stereotypes. What was explained to me is that my kids do not need to take any more German beyond AP German (not our heritage language) but it wouldn't look good to skip LOTE for both 11th and 12th grade without an explanation in the essay. If a child has a passion and is using the time save from LOTE for that, then it makes sense. If not then it's like obvious front loading to get a lighter 11th and 12th grade load.

 

Being the over-represented minority and our EFC using net price calculator is actually higher than COA for most universities, our focus is actually more out of country or private universities than state universities. My kids are Asians from middle class family with parents holding postgrad degrees and not good in any sports, they have no hook.

Edited February 8, 2017 by Arcadia

[Arcadia]

There is no classroom for OG. You can use their funds toward approved local classes, but you do so with your own funds and save yourself a headache.

 

Yvonne,

My understanding is we need 3 years of the same language. I don't think anybody conceived that a sophomore could pull of an AP FL exam.

I know about OG funds and vendors. We spoke to an ES many years back but we like traveling so the meeting every 20 days was a pain. The record keeping is another pain. There are many OG vendors near me which has classes which is why I say it could work for my current 6th grader next year. We outsource everything already at this point.

 

There are 9th graders pulling a good grade for AP FL exams so I don't think colleges would be surprised.

 

ETA:

1% of students who took AP French in 2013 were 9th graders http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/rtn/10th-annual/10th-annual-ap-report-subject-supplement-french-language-and-culture.pdf

4.4% of students who took AP Chinese in 2013 were 9th graders http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/rtn/10th-annual/10th-annual-ap-report-subject-supplement-chinese-language-and-culture.pdf

97% of students taking AP Chinese in 2013 had a score of 3 or higher. It is one of the top scoring APs in California. http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/rtn/10th-annual/10th-annual-ap-report-state-supplement-california.pdf

Edited February 8, 2017 by Arcadia

[Roadrunner]

I know about OG funds and vendors. We spoke to an ES many years back but we like traveling so the meeting every 20 days was a pain. The record keeping is another pain. There are many OG vendors near me which has classes which is why I say it could work for my current 6th grader next year. We outsource everything already at this point.

 

There are 9th graders pulling a good grade for AP FL exams so I don't think colleges would be surprised.

 

ETA:

1% of 9th graders took AP French in 2013 http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/rtn/10th-annual/10th-annual-ap-report-subject-supplement-french-language-and-culture.pdf

4.4% of 9th graders took AP Chinese in 2013 http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/rtn/10th-annual/10th-annual-ap-report-subject-supplement-chinese-language-and-culture.pdf

97% of students taking AP Chinese in 2013 had a score of 3 or higher. It is one of the top scoring APs in California. http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/rtn/10th-annual/10th-annual-ap-report-state-supplement-california.pdf

 

But the system isn't designed for AP FL as a freshman, which is why I think generic requirement is 3 years of the same language in high school (at least in our district). 

There are dual language schools (French school in SF comes to mind) in many cities in the US where kids are basically native fluent, so I am not surprised that all those kids would be more than ready to knock out an AP exam by 9th. A large percentage of Chinese AP language takers are native speakers (heritage), so again, no surprise. I think the traditional high school in our district words things the way it does because in our district nobody makes it to AP language until Junior year. We aren't in the diverse area at all. 

If I am reading correctly, a good score on SAT French would satisfy all of FL UC requirements, so maybe I will just not even bother with OG. I am going into intermittent panics as I hear "high school credit." 

[Ellie]

Can you cite your sources for this?  Or link a college site that states that high school FL credits earned in 7th and 8th grade can't be "counted."

 

We need to be super careful when giving second hand "information" that may or may not be correct or that may not be accurately summarizing what "some people" have said. Otherwise, there's a risk of misinformation which could lead the OP, and people in the OP's position reading this now and in the future, down the wrong path.

 

It's a plausible possibility, but it would be helpful to see the exact verbiage from the college.  My dd has two FL credits form 7th & 8th grade (done through a CA charter). She may or may not take a third year of that language in 9th-12th. Obviously, if she takes the third year in high school, it would validate the years she did in junior high. If she doesn't, I've been trying to tease out if I could still include yr 1 & yr 2 of that FL as "credits" on her high school record. I'm thinking it would be best just to include them as "taken prior to 9th grade" and not include them in her "credits" count.

 

Thanks

 

No, of course not, because they were comments made on this forum over the years. And that's what I said, that people on this forum had made those comments. It is only something that some people might want to keep in mind.

 

I am perfectly aware that we should be "super careful" about "giving second hand 'information.'" I was "accurately summarizing" what "some people" had said. I'm not sure how my advice to be sure to check with the colleges their children are considering to see if that's an issue could "lead...people...down the wrong path."

[SeaConquest]

Just be glad you all are not in SF or thinking of moving to SF. I recently checked their PS school site and emailed them. In order to skip algebra in 9th grade so that the student can take geometry that year, the student needs to have taken a UC approved algebra course in order to take a math placement exam. So if we decide to move and do PS in SF, that means DD will redo 3 years of math. But it also means she needs to take AOPS algebra A online soon so that we can show a transcript. She has to take geometry in 9th grade in order to graduate from an SF high school. Even if I were to have her start AOPS online geometry this summer for UC purposes (working through the book now) and show it to the high school, the district will not graduate her. And in order to apply to the top PS, I need to show a transcript for math, science, and social studies for 7th grade and first semester of 8th grade. DH asked if they would accept my grades. I highly, highly doubt it. And of course pass their HS entrance exam. So just to give us an option, I need to enroll DD in online classes with all this in mind. I have it partially sorted out, thanks to SVHS. BTW, DD asked what is social studies; apparently under that heading at SVHS, we can choose economics or US Government.

 

Private high schools offer more flexibility perhaps (?) but in SF they are like $25k to $40k per year. How much are kidneys going for these days?

We will only consider private school if there is financial aid, or we hit the lottery. ;)

 

Charters are great for the younger grades, but they still have many of the same issues as b&m public schools when it comes to transcripting the work of outliers.

[Arcadia]

If I am reading correctly, a good score on SAT French would satisfy all of FL UC requirements, so maybe I will just not even bother with OG. I am going into intermittent panics as I hear "high school credit."

It does. However I am also thinking of fulfilling the general education requirements in college with the AP exam. We didn't look at CLEP since UC don't take CLEP. I'm trying to minimize test taking and maximizing the number of boxes checked :)

 

From UCLA

"The foreign language requirement may be satisfied by one of the following methods: (1) completing a college-level foreign language course equivalent to level three or above at UCLA with a grade of C or Passed or better or (2) scoring 3, 4, or 5 on the College Board Advanced Placement (AP) foreign language examination in Chinese, French, German, Italian, Japanese, or Spanish, or scoring 4 or 5 in Latin, thereby earning College credit or (3) presenting a UCLA foreign language departmental examination score indicating competency through level three." http://catalog.registrar.ucla.edu/ucla-cat2016-64d.html

 

From UW

"If you achieved a score of 3, 4, or 5 on a College Board Advanced Placement foreign language examination, you will receive 5, 10, or 15 college credits at the second-year level. This satisfies the foreign language requirement, and the credit also counts toward VLPA." http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/academic-planning/general-education-requirements/foreign-language/

 

From Stanford (they take SAT scores too)

"All Stanford students are required to complete one year of college-level study, or the equivalent, in a foreign language. Students may fulfill the Language requirement in any one of the following ways:

...

Score a 4 or 5 on the Advanced Placement (AP) exam in Chinese, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Latin (Literature or Vergil), or Spanish. See the Registrar’s AP Credit Chart.

Achieve a satisfactory score on the SAT II Subject Test in Chinese, French, German, Hebrew, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Latin, or Spanish. Score cutoffs are listed online." https://undergrad.stanford.edu/advising/student-guides/general-education-requirements

 

ETA:

My oldest was thinking of French as the 3rd LOTE. I would have used the Bien Dit series as the library and Half Price bookstores have copies of that. With this kid, I can never know.

Edited February 8, 2017 by Arcadia

[yvonne]

 

That California allows for foreign language and math credits in middle school does not mean that some colleges won't question them. Just something to keep in mind, as that was the experience of several people here. :-)

 

 

No, of course not, because they were comments made on this forum over the years. And that's what I said, that people on this forum had made those comments. It is only something that some people might want to keep in mind.

 

I am perfectly aware that we should be "super careful" about "giving second hand 'information.'" I was "accurately summarizing" what "some people" had said. I'm not sure how my advice to be sure to check with the colleges their children are considering to see if that's an issue could "lead...people...down the wrong path."

 

You didn't say "check with the colleges [your] children are considering."  You said, "that [colleges questioning foreign language and math credits in middle school] was the experience of several people here."  Who?  Which college? Just one would be enough to make a case. You may be right. I do not think you are. I think you have heard things and come to a faulty assumption.

 

My issue, Ellie, is that I think this is one of those misconceptions that is perpetuated by well-meaning people who have, or think they have, "heard" "someone" say this or that, without any experience of their own to verify it and without carrying on further conversation with the original source to clearly understand the context.

 

That is what leads people down the wrong path.  A simple, "Check with the colleges you're considering" would not.

 

 

Edited February 8, 2017 by yvonne

[yvonne]

 

If I am reading correctly, a good score on SAT French would satisfy all of FL UC requirements, so maybe I will just not even bother with OG. I am going into intermittent panics as I hear "high school credit." 

 

This was my understanding as well, but who knows.

 

Totally get the intermittent panics!  I'm surprised I don't have ulcers from all the crazy things I worried about when my oldest hit 7th and 8th.  The good news, at least for me, was that those panics have pretty much subsided now that we're in high school. 

 

Now, I am a little anxious about pulling together all the info I need for my rising seniors' transcripts before fall, but, you know what?  They are happy, they have friends, they are taking solid classes, and they are doing well academically & otherwise. I finally think it is all going to be ok.

 

If they were aiming for Ivies, I'd probably be panicky. Even if you do everything right, there's no guarantee of getting into an Ivy/lottery school.  But my oldest are aiming for, at most, "selective" colleges/SLACs. Life is good.

[Ellie]

You didn't say "check with the colleges [your] children are considering."  You said, "that [colleges questioning foreign language and math credits in middle school] was the experience of several people here."  Who?  Which college? Just one would be enough to make a case. You may be right. I do not think you are. I think you have heard things and come to a faulty assumption.

 

My issue, Ellie, is that I think this is one of those misconceptions that is perpetuated by well-meaning people who have, or think they have, "heard" "someone" say this or that, without any experience of their own to verify it and without carrying on further conversation with the original source to clearly understand the context.

 

That is what leads people down the wrong path.  A simple, "Check with the colleges you're considering" would not.

 

 

 

I am not making a "faulty assumption." I do not have any misconceptions. I didn't "hear" "someone" say this or that.

 

Feel free to disagree with me. I have said more than once that people should check with the colleges they're considering. Excuse me if I didn't say it in this one. Because surely people will do their whole college plan based on my one comment.

 

Goodness.

[Mabelen]

My daughter took AP Spanish in her sophomore year and passed the test with a 5. She didn't have any middle school credits for Spanish. She gained 3 years of foreign language credit in 2 years because her school run on the trimester system, so she ended up with 6 trimesters, or 3 years. Do all charter schools in CA run on the semester system? In our school district we have some schools that run on semesters, others on trimesters, and one that runs on the quarter system (the most competitive and cut throat).

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You didn't say "check with the colleges [your] children are considering."  You said, "that [colleges questioning foreign language and math credits in middle school] was the experience of several people here."  Who?  Which college? Just one would be enough to make a case. You may be right. I do not think you are. I think you have heard things and come to a faulty assumption.

 

My issue, Ellie, is that I think this is one of those misconceptions that is perpetuated by well-meaning people who have, or think they have, "heard" "someone" say this or that, without any experience of their own to verify it and without carrying on further conversation with the original source to clearly understand the context.

 

That is what leads people down the wrong path.  A simple, "Check with the colleges you're considering" would not.

 

 

 

Our PSP requires all kids who take any class, but especially foreign language and math in middle school, to keep extensive records, extremely detailed, preferably with and outside-graded source, or down to saving every test.  SHe specifically said, they have been asked to send proof/verification on more than one occasion.  

 

The specific proofs they have been asked to send most frequently have been:

 

Lab Science with labs - up to and including sending copies of lab reports

FL and Math taken in Middle School 

transcripts of any outside classes for either AP or A-G approval 

 

Just keep all your records and or proof of work.  It can't hurt !