Tsutsie Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 My DS-almost-12 is an excellent, natural writer. He writes copiously and easily. We have done IEW, but is tired of doing the same thing over and over again. He has done some of CAPs WR, but finds it slow (I really like it.) He is currently using Cover Story, but I'm not happy with the lack of teaching structure - this seems to be what he needs most. I think he is ready to learn how to write a thesis statement, persuasive essay, more complex research report, etc. Any suggestions as to an easy to use and clear program? I need a lot of hand-holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerforest Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) My DD didn't like Cover Story at all. She liked Lively Art of Writing quite a bit and learned a lot. It is dated, which can be entertaining. But, we're still circling around it a bit more, and now we're using Twisting Arms: http://www.prufrock.com/Twisting-Arms-Teaching-Students-How-to-Write-to-Persuade-P800.aspx (eta: we've already done Thinking in Threes too) Edited January 10, 2017 by deerforest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie of KY Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's expensive, but I love Brave Writer online classes. They are 4-6 weeks each and do a lot of teaching. From there, you can use the skills you learn in your own assignments until you take the next step. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alte Veste Academy Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I think he is ready to learn how to write a thesis statement, persuasive essay, more complex research report, etc. Any suggestions as to an easy to use and clear program? I need a lot of hand-holding. I have been loving The Lost Tools of Writing this year. Yes to coming up with a thesis, yes to persuasive essays, yes to easy and clear, and a big yes to hand-holding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsutsie Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Thank you Alte Veste - I'm excited by what I'm seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrips Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 We did iew for the last three years- worked well and the kids write easily. This year we decided to do WWS and I love how they are learning the components of what goes into different types of papers. its much less writing each week than iew, at least so far, so my kids are supplementing with writing across the curriculum. Taking WWS and iew concepts for history, art appreciation, science etc. WWS is written to the kid, but teacher guide has lots of handholding for helping them out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileyme Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hello what materials should we buy in IEW? I need to know what materials are there for self learning? We did iew for the last three years- worked well and the kids write easily. This year we decided to do WWS and I love how they are learning the components of what goes into different types of papers. its much less writing each week than iew, at least so far, so my kids are supplementing with writing across the curriculum. Taking WWS and iew concepts for history, art appreciation, science etc. WWS is written to the kid, but teacher guide has lots of handholding for helping them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targhee Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I have been loving The Lost Tools of Writing this year. Yes to coming up with a thesis, yes to persuasive essays, yes to easy and clear, and a big yes to hand-holding. No to research paper though. For that look at WWS. However we found LToW to be far superior in terms of teaching to think and reason well, which underlies good writing of any time. I'm a big fan of LToW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 No to research paper though. For that look at WWS. However we found LToW to be far superior in terms of teaching to think and reason well, which underlies good writing of any time. I'm a big fan of LToW! I'm thinking of doing this next year with mine after we finish SICC-B (IEW). Do you think we'll be okay using the old version (4th edition)? I don't think I can pay for the brand shiny new one that came out this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrips Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hello what materials should we buy in IEW? I need to know what materials are there for self learning?We used the STudent Workshop Intensive dvds, followed by the continuing courses. They are the series of videos where Pudewa teaches directly to the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targhee Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) I'm thinking of doing this next year with mine after we finish SICC-B (IEW). Do you think we'll be okay using the old version (4th edition)? I don't think I can pay for the brand shiny new one that came out this year.I haven't looked at the 4th edition. From what I understand the implementation info and teacher support materials are significantly improved in the 5th ed. I consider myself a decent writer (English minor with writing emphasis in college), but I still learn a lot about this program through the teacher support videos that helps me as an instructor. There is a very active yahoo group that could probably better answer your questions. LTWMentors I think is the group name. ETA 5th edition has been out for at least 2 years now, so you may find a used copy. The access code for videos will work even if it is a used copy as well. Edited December 4, 2017 by Targhee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I haven't looked at the 4th edition. From what I understand the implementation info and teacher support materials are significantly improved in the 5th ed. I consider myself a decent writer (English minor with writing emphasis in college), but I still learn a lot about this program through the teacher support videos that helps me as an instructor. There is a very active yahoo group that could probably better answer your questions. LTWMentors I think is the group name. ETA 5th edition has been out for at least 2 years now, so you may find a used copy. The access code for videos will work even if it is a used copy as well. Wow. I thought it just came out. I bought the 4th edition because I wasn't sure what I wanted to do and it was cheap. So I will keep an eye out for a used 5th copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targhee Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Wow. I thought it just came out. I bought the 4th edition because I wasn't sure what I wanted to do and it was cheap. So I will keep an eye out for a used 5th copy. I highly recommend the yahoo group. There are many using the 4th edition still, and they'll have tips and answers to questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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