kathy_overman Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Nothing like the last minute to change plans. We start in a week, and I need help with my 7th / 8th grader who is VERY resistant to all I require. However, he does great with the expectations of others. I realized, I need him to be accountable to someone else's requirements, where possible. I want to find the publishers who offer a lesson plan with their products. For example, Memoria Press offers a complete lesson plan by grade. Kolbe offers a lesson plan by subject. Catholic Heritage offers a lesson plan by grade. Who are the other publishers that offer a lesson plan with their products? At this point, I am looking at all subjects! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2samlibby Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Master Books Heart of Dakota Sonlight My Father's World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Calvert lays out what you're expected to do. I think it's for the whole week, but an overview of all your subjects is on one page. They also offer a plan in which you have to send your work in to one of their teachers to be graded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa B Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Oak Meadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Nothing like the last minute to change plans. We start in a week, and I need help with my 7th / 8th grader who is VERY resistant to all I require. However, he does great with the expectations of others. I realized, I need him to be accountable to someone else's requirements, where possible. I want to find the publishers who offer a lesson plan with their products. For example, Memoria Press offers a complete lesson plan by grade. Kolbe offers a lesson plan by subject. Catholic Heritage offers a lesson plan by grade. Who are the other publishers that offer a lesson plan with their products? At this point, I am looking at all subjects! Thanks. Just having lesson plans doesn't make him accountable, though. Seems as if you'd actually need to enroll him in a distance-learning school of some kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy_overman Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Thank you, thank you .... keep them coming. We have tried HOD and Sonlight, flops for us. Maybe I should reconsider them? I have a new appreciation for you super Teachers that are able to write out your own Lessons Plans. We have always done Open & Go, but things end up falling through the cracks with this one son. For my sanity, I need to find something different for him that will be challenging and help me, hold him accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy_overman Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Ellie Are you thinking K12 type of distance learning? He will be taking 1-3 online classes which are great for him (Writing, Lit. Science). However, my hope is that - if the remaining assignments are written out - such as - he has to do Lesson 12, exercise 1-14 on Tuesday, it will be much easier for ME to make sure that specific work gets done. Maybe I am kidding myself? Right now, he is a master manipulator, and I am too easily talked out of stuff - so I am hoping the lesson plan will help me define exactly what must be done daily/weekly. Make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Calvert is awesome for this scenario. My son is using Calvert 8 with ATS and it is extremely well done, just enough to Interest and challenge him while still leaving plenty of time for his own interests and hobbies. He really enjoys the vi an, lit and reading. I really highly recommend it if you have 2k to spend. Also our ATS experience has been in invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Ps HE will still try to talk you out of work. But it's easier for YOU to say "this lessons plan was developed by teachers, used in classrooms and honed till the expectations were acceptable for any bright hard working student. Do what it says." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy_overman Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Calming Tea .... You are so right. He will still try to negotiate he way to do less, and I will have the lesson plan to back me up. I will go check out Clavert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vida Winter Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 You could try some At-Your-Own-Pace classes at Virtual Homeschool Group. In the math courses he would have to get 80% on homework before it would let him move on to the next topic. Homework and quizzes are computer graded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Ellie Are you thinking K12 type of distance learning? He will be taking 1-3 online classes which are great for him (Writing, Lit. Science). However, my hope is that - if the remaining assignments are written out - such as - he has to do Lesson 12, exercise 1-14 on Tuesday, it will be much easier for ME to make sure that specific work gets done. Maybe I am kidding myself? Right now, he is a master manipulator, and I am too easily talked out of stuff - so I am hoping the lesson plan will help me define exactly what must be done daily/weekly. Make sense? No, not at all. I'm thinking of actually *enrolling* him in Calvert, or Oak Meadow, or whatever. A distance-learning school, a correspondence school, a satellite school--different names that all mean the same thing: a school office somewhere that makes the rules. He would then be actually accountable to someone. If you buy something like Sonlight, which has very detailed daily lesson plans, you are still the one to whom he is accountable, and that wouldn't be any different than what you're doing now as far as accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Memorial Press and I believe Great Books Academy does as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 That should have said Memoria Press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 What about Sonlight or Bookshark? Or Build Your Library or Moving Beyond the Page? What about programs that have a schedule? Is that enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakelly Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Hewitt has lesson plans and you can enroll them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnMomof7 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 If you need outside accountability, I suggest online courses, is that an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy_overman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 I really appreciate everyone's help and ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Oh yeah, outside online courses may help too...having to interact with a teacher several times per week, turn things in regularly and receive grades. It adds up quickly though. Most good online courses seem to be about 550 per subject per year or even more. Then again it's still less than private school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolamum Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Winter Promise Currclick has live classes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeves Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 This is exactly why we changed to HOD! (besides the fact that I HATE lesson planning!) My children were great at convincing me why certain things couldn't get done. Now my kids know they have to finish all the "boxes" before school is done. There is no negotiating! :) I know you said you have tried HOD and it was a flop, so I'm not saying you need to do that again, but I would encourage you to find something that's easy for THE CHILDREN to look at and see what needs to be done with little input from you! Good luck! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulasue Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Wayfarers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy_overman Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 I have spent hours looking over all the suggestions, and I am narrowing done my goals. I have signed my son up for online Writing, Science and French. We will continue with our Language Arts and Math programs. Now, I am trying to tackle Literature and History. We have tried, to varying degrees, Sonlight, HOD, Biblioplan, Oak Meadow, BJU, and Memoria Press. Seriously, that is crazy. I am writing this out to help me process my thoughts/desires. The constant we have stuck with is Story of the World. I was disappointed when we got to SOTW 4. I did not like the activity book, and our note-booking and mapping stopped. I want a program that helps me with mapping, and succinctly summarizing history (ideally it incorporates literature with quick comprehension questions). With Sonlight, Biblioplan and Bookshark, I get overwhelmed with their plans. I find this more confusing than helpful. I love the simplicity of Memoria Press' Lesson Plans, but much of the material I find dry and there is LOTS of writing.. I love the simplicity of Oak Meadow, but it is really not my son's style (He loves the MP reading, but not all the writing). For History, I am considering finishing SOTW 4 (making myself schedule out the 1/3 of the book we have left), and then .....Memoria Press, Oak Meadow, Beautiful Feet and BYL (their Unit Study on WWII looks great). For Literature, well, that depends on where we go with History. I may use a few Lit. Guides, a Reading List, and Figuratively Speaking. I just can't commit!! I am fickle by nature, and all the wonderful choices feed my indecision. ***I just downloaded BYL Unit Study on WWII, and it looks great - it is straight forward, and includes History and Literature. It is a bargain at $9.99! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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