HollyDay Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I've been watching some of the video from the Queen's jubilee and notice the princess royale (Anne) is not really a prominent figure (?). I was a bit surprised that she is not more "up front". Can anyone explain what her role is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I've been watching some of the video from the Queen's jubilee and notice the princess royale (Anne) is not really a prominent figure (?). I was a bit surprised that she is not more "up front". Can anyone explain what her role is? I'm no expert. But, she's really not in line to the throne. Charles comes first, followed by William and then Harry, followed by Andrew, followed by Edward. William is the popular royal along with Kate and since he's going to get the throne after his father, there is a lot of focus there as well. Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The Princess Royal is the eldest daughter of the Sovereign. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Princess_Royal The Princess Royal carries out the most engagements of any member of the Royal Family, and is involved with over 200 charities and organisations in an official capacity. Looks like she stays busy. At one point she was second in the line of succession, but is now 10th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'm no expert. But, she's really not in line to the throne. Charles comes first, followed by William and then Harry, followed by Andrew, followed by Edward. William is the popular royal along with Kate and since he's going to get the throne after his father, there is a lot of focus there as well. Faith England's royal inheritance laws need to be updated. In fact, seems to me I've seen something about that, where Parliament might allow daughters to inherit over their brothers. Here's the line of succession as it stands right now. Notice that the Princess Royale is #10 on the list, with her children after her: HM Queen Elizabeth II (b. 1926) Reigning monarch HRH The Prince of Wales (The Prince Charles; b. 1948) B D W HRH The Duke of Cambridge (Prince William; b. 1982) B D W HRH Prince Henry ('Harry') of Wales (b. 1984) B D W HRH The Duke of York (The Prince Andrew; b. 1960) B D W HRH Princess Beatrice of York (b. 1988) B D W HRH Princess Eugenie of York (b. 1990) B D W HRH The Earl of Wessex (The Prince Edward; b. 1964) B D W Viscount Severn (James Mountbatten-Windsor; b. 2007) B D W The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor (b. 2003) B D W HRH The Princess Royal (The Princess Anne; b. 1950) B D W Mr Peter Phillips (b. 1977) B D W Miss Savannah Phillips (b. 2010) B D W Miss Isla Phillips (b. 2012) B Mrs Zara Tindall (Zara Phillips; b. 1981) B D W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 It surprises me that Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie are ahead of Princess Anne. If I were Anne, well, let's just say I would not be pleased. Then again, she may not want all that goes along with being queen. Still - kind of weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legomom Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 My mom is from England so we have been watching all of the Jubilee celebration and we have wondered the same thing. When the RAF did the flyover at Buckingham Palace, we thought it should be the Queen with all of her children and their families on the balcony. We figured it must have something to do with the succession rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie G Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I caught a snippet of it yesterday just before the flyover. I noticed that William and Kate seemed more front and center than Charles. William was pretty much right beside the queen while his dad was behind. It was a balcony so I'm sure there wasn't much room, but it was noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirch Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 My mom is from England so we have been watching all of the Jubilee celebration and we have wondered the same thing. When the RAF did the flyover at Buckingham Palace, we thought it should be the Queen with all of her children and their families on the balcony. We figured it must have something to do with the succession rules. I read in an article somewhere that the only ones who would be visibly participating much would be those in the direct line of succession (obviously just the first few in the line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I caught a snippet of it yesterday just before the flyover. I noticed that William and Kate seemed more front and center than Charles. William was pretty much right beside the queen while his dad was behind. It was a balcony so I'm sure there wasn't much room, but it was noticeable. I've kind of wondered if Queen Elizabeth is trying to outlive her son because she'd rather Charles NOT succeed her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpedIntoTheDeepEndFirst Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 It is worth noting that Princess Anne wasn't born the Princess Royal. That title was granted to her by the Queen in recognition of all the work she does for charities and in representing the Royal Family. Also Princess Anne and her first husband choose not to have their children carry royal titles. It seems that she takes her job and responsibilities seriously with out a case of needing extra attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Also Princess Anne and her first husband choose not to have their children carry royal titles. It seems that she takes her job and responsibilities seriously with out a case of needing extra attention. As I understand it, Princess Anne's husband made that choice. For some reason, even though he was a commoner, he had that authority. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I've kind of wondered if Queen Elizabeth is trying to outlive her son because she'd rather Charles NOT succeed her. Maybe, but remember that the Queen Mother had a long, long life; it looks as if Queen Elizabeth has inherited good genes. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 At one point she was second in the line of succession, but is now 10th. She was only second in line until her younger brothers, Andrew and Edward, were born. From that point on, the likelihood that she would ever be Queen was nil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 However, the law was just changed--if Prince William's first child is a girl, she will be first in line. If she were the only child, she would still have been in line. The law was changed so that even if there are sons born after her, she'll still be Queen. Under the former law, her younger brother(s) would have preceeded her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDay Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 It is worth noting that Princess Anne wasn't born the Princess Royal. That title was granted to her by the Queen in recognition of all the work she does for charities and in representing the Royal Family. Also Princess Anne and her first husband choose not to have their children carry royal titles. It seems that she takes her job and responsibilities seriously with out a case of needing extra attention. Yes, this is why I'm surprised she is not more "up front". From what I've read, she is a very active royal and keeps a very busy work load. Granted, she is pretty far down the list now, but she is still the Queen's first born. Is she (Princess Anne) well liked by the people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Granted, she is pretty far down the list now, but she is still the Queen's first born. Charles is the first-born. Anne is second. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmama Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I've kind of wondered if Queen Elizabeth is trying to outlive her son because she'd rather Charles NOT succeed her. Funny and perhaps true. Yet also, from what I understand, Queen Elizabeth learned at a young age the importance of not ever abdicating. Her uncle did so, thrusting her father into the limelight (and throne), and therefore said abdication made her the future queen as well. Also, she comes from a long line of long-living women, as has been noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Library Momma Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 On the news they stated that Anne and few other members of the family chose to be with her father, Prince Philip. He is ill and in the hospital and therefore couldn't participate himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Queen Elizabeth learned at a young age the importance of not ever abdicating. Her uncle did so, thrusting her father into the limelight (and throne), and therefore said abdication made her the future queen as well. . Something for which her uncle was justly banished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 On the news they stated that Anne and few other members of the family chose to be with her father, Prince Philip. He is ill and in the hospital and therefore couldn't participate himself. Ah. Charles commented on his father's not being able to be there because he was "in hospital." Here's an article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDay Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Charles is the first-born. Anne is second. :) you are right!!! I always thought Anne was born first. Learn something new everyday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_l_e_0..Q_c Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) Yes, Charles is first-born, and he only got two sons. The succession law for females just happened to not be relevant. Princess Anne would still be far down the line (not as far, but still far). Prince William's children would be ahead of her eventually. It's basically: first born (used to be first born male, now it won't matter anymore, but Charles still is first born anyway). All of first born's descendents (again, they're all male, so mute point as far as gender is concerned). All of the first born's descendents' descendents (yet to be born, a female may be first now) Yes, Prince Andrew and Prince Edward (and all of their descendents) are ahead of Princess Anne even if they're younger. This would no longer be the case for future royals, but I think a decision was made to not alter the current order, because of the very little likelyhood of it being necessary (it's been a long time since #5 on the list was ever called into 'service'). Edited June 6, 2012 by CleoQc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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