5LittleMonkeys Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 :svengo: Okay, I've been educating myself about Latin so that I could facilitate my dc learning it and now dd12 throws me for a loop by asking to learn Japanese! Please tell me there is a wonderful Japanese language program out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankcassiesmom Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 LOL! My 12 yo too! SO funny! A friend of mine gave me Rosetta Stone Japanese. He is going to do it next year to get his feet wet and see if he still likes it. He will still be doing First Form and Second Form Latin to fulfill vocabulary development :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almondbutterandjelly Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Georgia Public Broadcasting has a free online video curriculum for Japanese called Isassue (I'm sure I'm spelling that wrong). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 It is actually Irasshai ;) Here is the link. I think it is terrific. Ds has used it this year and will continue next year. It is affordable and he has learned well with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica in OR Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 The Irasshai link looks fantastic! Thanks for sharing. Erica in OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumto2 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I can't believe this is actually free. It looks like you need to buy a book to go with it. Has anyone used this. Do you actually use the book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You need both the book and the student workbook. There is also a teacher's guide which you need for the answers to the student workbook! Yes, we use it all and you need it all to make a complete program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Thanks so much for the Irasshai link. I just watched the first video and I really like it. The books on Amazon look good, and 60.00 is not bad at all! Momto2Ns - how do you schedule this for your dc? How many lessons a week\how long does a lesson usually take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You need both the book and the student workbook. There is also a teacher's guide which you need for the answers to the student workbook! Yes, we use it all and you need it all to make a complete program. :iagree: We recently started Irasshai as well. It's low priority right now, but the videos and workbooks are well done. The entire series, volumes 1 and 2, when completed would count as 3 foreign language credits for high school. You could do up to two lessons a week, imo. However, we've spread it out and average about a lesson a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 The entire series, volumes 1 and 2, when completed would count as 3 foreign language credits for high school. Too bad I couldn't carry those credits over to 9th. She'll only be in 7th next year (July). Thanks for chiming in everyone. That was one of the easier decisions I've made on a program in a long time.:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMom2One Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 My 12 yo dd wants to learn Japanese as well, but we've encouraged her to get other foreign language under her belt so that she has some success first and feels more confident before taking on such a major task. We've studied some Latin so far and are currently working on French for this reason. I personally think that we will use the younger school years as a time to tackle languages that are less complicated to learn, and encourage our dd to study it as an adult in college and beyond if she remains interested. One of my adult ds's is a linguistics major and has studied Japanese at college level for 3 years, plus spent a year in Japan as a foreign student with total immersion in the language. (He is a straight A student and won a full ride scholarship to study abroad the year he was in Tokyo, so he's no dummy.) Even with this broad base of education and experience, he is not fluent in the language and says he may never be able to get that far without permanently moving to Japan. He stresses that is very, very difficult for English speaking people to learn Japanese. I think that getting exposure to any foreign language is wonderful, so please don't take me wrong here because I don't mean to sound like a naysayer. I'd just like to point out that Japanese is ranked as a Category V language out of 5 total categories of difficulty. (Here is a helpful list that shows the levels of difficulty in languages for English speaking people to learn.) I hope it helps you as you and your family consider the many possibilities in learning languages. Blessings, Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The way I schedule is that ds watches the video, reads the lesson in the book and practices vocabulary one day. Then there are either 1 or 2 workbook sections for each lesson. He does 1 workbook section per day. Some of these are short, some are quite long. This takes him at a pace of 1.5-2 lessons per week. Some of the activities are speaking and reading practice and he uses me for a partner, although I don't know Japanese. I can read Romanized Japanese having learned pronunciation, so with the teacher's guide I know if he is translating correctly or giving me the right answers. It seems to be working very well. Ds misses very little in the workbook and can read/translate, answer questions. I hope to get a tutor to work with him next year or the third year at the latest, so he will have more conversation practice. There is a a girl at our church who is taking Japanese 4 in ps right now and loves having anyone to speak Japanese with, so he practices with her, but not regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 The way I schedule is that ds watches the video, reads the lesson in the book and practices vocabulary one day. Then there are either 1 or 2 workbook sections for each lesson. He does 1 workbook section per day. Some of these are short, some are quite long. This takes him at a pace of 1.5-2 lessons per week. Some of the activities are speaking and reading practice and he uses me for a partner, although I don't know Japanese. I can read Romanized Japanese having learned pronunciation, so with the teacher's guide I know if he is translating correctly or giving me the right answers. Thank you for sharing how you are using it. Dd is very excited...I don't know if I'm going to be able to get her to wait until July (our new school year) to start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Too bad I couldn't carry those credits over to 9th. She'll only be in 7th next year (July). I would have your child continue her Japanese into the high school years and then have her take the Japanese SAT Subject Test to corroborate her learning. Regards, Kareni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmoe Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 You need both the book and the student workbook. There is also a teacher's guide which you need for the answers to the student workbook! Yes, we use it all and you need it all to make a complete program. Could someone link to the books, workbooks, and teacher's guide, so I can see just what is needed for the course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would have your child continue her Japanese into the high school years and then have her take the Japanese SAT Subject Test to corroborate her learning. Regards, Kareni So, educate me on this as I haven't a dc in highschool yet and am just learning about all of the rules regarding credits. What benefit would this provide her? Would this allow her to count her study of Japanese in middle school toward a credit in highschool? Missmoe - here are the links for those books at amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Could someone link to the books, workbooks, and teacher's guide, so I can see just what is needed for the course? Here's volume 1 for all http://www.amazon.com/Irasshai-Japanese-Interactive-Multimedia-Beginning/dp/1419685597/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329170965&sr=1-2 The TE is good for volumes 1 and 2. Volume 1 has 79? lessons, it's designed to be used for the first 1 1/2 years of instruction. Volume 2 (txt, workbook)is for the next 1 1/2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 HaHa...I forgot to put the links in...hold on. Here is the workbook. If you scroll down to "frequently bought together" you will see the text and the tm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would have your child continue her Japanese into the high school years and then have her take the Japanese SAT Subject Test to corroborate her learning. So, educate me on this as I haven't a dc in highschool yet and am just learning about all of the rules regarding credits. What benefit would this provide her? Would this allow her to count her study of Japanese in middle school toward a credit in highschool? Let's say she studies Japanese 3 in 9th grade (at home) and then takes the SAT Subject test sometime that year. The transcript you make will show Japanese 3 in 9th grade (which will indicate that she took Japanese 1 and 2 previously). A good score on the SAT subject test will then corroborate that she actually learned Japanese. Regards, Kareni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Let's say she studies Japanese 3 in 9th grade (at home) and then takes the SAT Subject test sometime that year. The transcript you make will show Japanese 3 in 9th grade (which will indicate that she took Japanese 1 and 2 previously). A good score on the SAT subject test will then corroborate that she actually learned Japanese. Regards, Kareni I understand...thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibaker103 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Missmoe or anyone else if you decide to use Irasshai I have it for sale on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmoe Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Missmoe or anyone else if you decide to use Irasshai I have it for sale on the board. I just sent you a PM. Too funny as I am sitting here next to the pile of books I just pulled to send to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mile High Mama Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 My dd 10 is enamored of all things Japanese. She has tried a few different Japanese language programs and *really* likes Human Japanese. It just makes more sense to her and she's thrilled to be learning the written language (since I don't know how to spell the word for that, I won't even try!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midorifamily Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hi :001_smile: If your goal is to take the Japanese Sat II test at the end, you might want to look at this website. http://www.how-to-learn-japanese.com/japanese-sat-ii-faq.html In one of the links listed in the sidebar, he recommends the "Genki" textbooks. I looked at these books at a bookstore, and if I hadn't been a native Japanese speaker, I would have used them for our kids. They are very solid, IMHO. Another resource you might be interested in is https://www.erin.ne.jp/jp/ It's all free and our kids like it. I wouldn't use it as a sole resource, but as application exercises. HTH Midori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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