unsinkable Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) OK -- deleted my original post b/c i didn't want it out here forever. thanks for all the encouragment! Edited November 18, 2011 by unsinkable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigs Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: You found the grammar problem - so you.are.not.a.failure! :hurray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fairy Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfunnybunch Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug: You've figured out the problem. That's what good teachers do. I assume he doesn't realize he's doing this. That's actually a normal thing for many of us to do--we automatically mentally correct mistakes because the point of language in daily life is communication, not finding mistakes. (This tendency is, for example, what allows teens to read one another's text messages without throwing away their phones in despair. I am convinced of it.) Now that you and he have figured out the problem, you can work on it together. Wait, let me repeat myself: You're doing what good teachers do. It's not lack of problems that determines a good teacher; it's finding and addressing them. You are not a failure. (Sorry, I know you said Just Agree With Me, but I don't. ;) )You are doing your job. Well done. Deep breath. Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Is it mandated for him to be tested now, with this test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: You found the grammar problem - so you.are.not.a.failure! :hurray: Thank you. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug: :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: That's. hugs back.:grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug: You've figured out the problem. That's what good teachers do. I assume he doesn't realize he's doing this. That's actually a normal thing for many of us to do--we automatically mentally correct mistakes because the point of language in daily life is communication, not finding mistakes. (This tendency is, for example, what allows teens to read one another's text messages without throwing away their phones in despair. I am convinced of it.) Now that you and he have figured out the problem, you can work on it together. Wait, let me repeat myself: You're doing what good teachers do. It's not lack of problems that determines a good teacher; it's finding and addressing them. You are not a failure. (Sorry, I know you said Just Agree With Me, but I don't. ;) )You are doing your job. Well done. Deep breath. Cat thanks. i'm getting all teary-eyed again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Is it mandated for him to be tested now, with this test? Yes. It has to be this test and it is happening very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margo out of lurking Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 :grouphug:This is exactly why you are practicing, right? So you can spot potential misunderstandings before he takes the test? Do you have enough time to continue to practice, emphasizing that he is to read the sentences correctly in order to determine the answer? I don't know your math issues, but it sounds like he's doing GREAT. You WANT him to read and understand material without nitpicking. He sounds bright, he's understanding the context, he's reading quickly, comprehending as he reads. That's all good. The problem is that, in this instance, he's supposed to be nitpicking. That's just one more issue I have with standardized testing. (Yes, I understand it's a tool to test the masses.) Praise your ds; HE's doing great, and so are you. For now, he'll have to adjust his thinking "to the test." Perhaps he can see it as a game and be challenged to "find" the mistake. He'll need to slow down and see the sentence in a different context, if possible. It's the testing that is lacking. You don't say why you have to test or why this is important. I would encourage you to see the bigger picture though. Your son is demonstrating the long term benefits of hsing. Ultimately, it will be far better for him to read quickly, to understand context, and to auto-correct than to get hung up on a typographical or grammatical error while reading something much larger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 :grouphug:This is exactly why you are practicing, right? So you can spot potential misunderstandings before he takes the test? Do you have enough time to continue to practice, emphasizing that he is to read the sentences correctly in order to determine the answer? I don't know your math issues, but it sounds like he's doing GREAT. You WANT him to read and understand material without nitpicking. He sounds bright, he's understanding the context, he's reading quickly, comprehending as he reads. That's all good. The problem is that, in this instance, he's supposed to be nitpicking. That's just one more issue I have with standardized testing. (Yes, I understand it's a tool to test the masses.) Praise your ds; HE's doing great, and so are you. For now, he'll have to adjust his thinking "to the test." Perhaps he can see it as a game and be challenged to "find" the mistake. He'll need to slow down and see the sentence in a different context, if possible. It's the testing that is lacking. You don't say why you have to test or why this is important. I would encourage you to see the bigger picture though. Your son is demonstrating the long term benefits of hsing. Ultimately, it will be far better for him to read quickly, to understand context, and to auto-correct than to get hung up on a typographical or grammatical error while reading something much larger. thanks kristine. i appreciate your post. it will help me focus on the positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elise1mds Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Now that you know the problem, it should be easy to fix, right? My DS does the same thing. He'll write a sentence incorrectly and then mentally fix it when he reads it. In his spelling (SWO), sometimes he's asked to catch errors, and he'll miss them entirely and get horribly frustrated that he can't find the correct number of mistakes. I make him use his finger and read each word individually, and that usually helps. It's time-consuming and he hates it, but it gets us there. I hope you're able to find something that works for your son. Good luck. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Now that you know the problem, it should be easy to fix, right? My DS does the same thing. He'll write a sentence incorrectly and then mentally fix it when he reads it. In his spelling (SWO), sometimes he's asked to catch errors, and he'll miss them entirely and get horribly frustrated that he can't find the correct number of mistakes. I make him use his finger and read each word individually, and that usually helps. It's time-consuming and he hates it, but it gets us there. I hope you're able to find something that works for your son. Good luck. :grouphug: thank you. we have a real time crunch, however. i'll do the best i can with the time we have left. plus the test is timed so he can't go as slow as he wants, kwim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I do this :D When I'm correcting papers, I've learned to read FOR mistakes. Normally, I read for information, but in those cases, I read for mistakes. Maybe if he approaches it as correcting the sentences, instead of comprehending them (fun problem to have :lol: being too good at reading for comprehension) that will help. The content doesn't matter in these cases, it's how it has been put together that matters. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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