Not all majors they offer can be done totally online. For music majors, I do believe they help you find a close enough school where you can fulfill the required credits in person.

:iagree: Our dd used CollegePlus at first, until their life purpose planning was a little too good and it showed that what she was really interested In studying was not a major they offered. College Plus was VERY good about refunding our money at this point. Dd REALLY liked her coach and was sorry to not be able to use the program. It certainly IS much more than just tips---the coaches really work with the kids. I am even more thrilled with CP Now that they are partnered with Liberty University, because ds wants to use CP for a business degree. He does not want to graduate in debt and is fine living with us rent free until he graduates. It may not be a program that suits every student, but for kids who are concerned about college debt and who aren't interested I spending 4 years on undergrad, it's a viable option that should pose no hindrance to future employment ;)

Wowza is right! For that cost, I could purchase curriculum for my son with all the bells and whistles of online/DVD support. You have made me happy that we have no CC within 5 hours of us:tongue_smilie:

It's definitely more fun with more students, but definitely doable with one. We watch one movie a month---one Sunday we will watch the movie through its entirety, and then in 2 more Sundays we watch it and go through the questions. Of course, it will be more than a years course with this method, but I am not using it as a traditional English credit, simply as a fun elective.

Yes, I was going to say the same thing. Ds learned it quite thoroughly in MUS Alg2 this year.

You can always just get one student guide and look it over to see if it will logistically work with 2 students, and then purchase another if necessary. As far as answering questions, you could allow shorter answers if you plan on going over answers together with them. I know I had dd answer questions in a notebook, but the IG problems prevented me from actually being able to go over answers effectively with her, so I'm afraid I don't have very good experiential advice on that one :001_huh:

Laughing from this description and agreeing with your extended description of the frustration! :iagree:

Hate to say it, but YES, it was a big mistake to buy an upper level SL IG used! The new design is SO, SO much more user friendly. There truly is no comparison to the frustrating, jumbled, confusing mess of the older IGs. In my mind, the only remedy is to do whatever it takes to get an updated IG. With the new IGs, you will have the parent guide that has ALL the notes, ALL the questions and complete answers for it all. The student guides also have their own complete schedule like the parent guide has, and of course all the notes and questions and writing assignments right on the back page of the weekly schedule and 2 students can easily share one student guide. I highly recommend you upgrade, especially for Core 100---I guarantee you will be pulling your hair out with confusion and frustration trying to use it not only with 2 students, but just trying to cover the notes, Q&A :glare: With the version you have, the parent's guide portion does NOT have the notes the student is supposed to read, does NOT contain the complete questions asked to the student and the writing assignments are contained in some mysterious nether portion of the guide----I found the 'joys' of the continual flipping back and forth from student guide to parent guide so frustrating when dd used this, that we finally gave up on using the guide at all! I will be purchasing the updated guide for ds for this reason alone.

I guess for over $40,000 a year fees for the 'experience' is worth it if your kids are focused on a particular subject and they are guaranteed a high paying job right out of school to start paying off their loans. Or maybe a family is lucky enough to have no loans at schools that expensive and kids totally focused to boot. My dismay is caused by the cost! I know certain degrees can pay off quickly after graduation, but with the statistics still standing at 1 in 10 unemployed or underemployed after graduation, the college 'experience' to achieve the American Dream is very overpriced, especially since apparently now college is meant for producing a well-rounded individual for let's say business who can converse intelligently in Italian renaissance painting :tongue_smilie: We all do what works for our families and kids, but I will never stop shaking my head at the jaw dropping costs of college these days, the constant talk of a massive default loan bubble coming and then the continued nose snubbing at cheaper, more focused online degrees that kids can work for with NO debt :001_huh:

This is truly wonderful to hear---congrats for your kids! :001_smile: But I NEVER experienced this or saw this at my college. All colleges are not great or give incredible experiences or support of this nature, even if your kids are exceptional. I'm not bashing college in general, but there's no way this experience is the norm.

Lol---wouldn't that be nice :tongue_smilie: We all know that would never, ever go----way, way too much money in higher Ed.

:iagree: My point exactly! College is generally VERY expensive, and shouldn't be wasted on this unless a student chooses it. Not picking on you personally Creekland, but the attitude of discrimination towards online or more focused degrees just fuels this higher education bubble, encouraging people to take out loans for higher ticket degrees :glare:

Oh yes--I know---well-rounded students with a nice broad education that does not prepare them for a specific career if that's what the major is supposedly directed towards. I can understand a basic Liberal Arts degree, but for things like business it boggles my mind. Some of the online colleges I have been looking at for myself have very focused courses for the specific major, and yet the more expensive recognized 'brand name' schools with online degrees require more courses in extraneous subjects and literally cost between 3-5 times more. It's so confusing and frustrating for me, and then leaves me even more stumped because I am very hesitant to recommend some of these schools to my son because of the prejudice he might run up against if he doesn't have a more expensive, recognized school name on a resume :glare:

In looking into returning to college to finish my degree myself in a couple of years, I am absolutely struck about something: the amount of electives that have NOTHING to do with a given major necessary in order to complete a degree!!! In looking at a BSBA----why is it necessary to take art history, American history etc??? Biology, chemistry?? Almost half of a major is General Ed and Electives?! What a waste of time! And looking at housing it looks like the housing expenses, compared to real world rent, are about $1000 or more a month----with no privacy or cooking facilities! No wonder college is so overpriced, no wonder kids have to take out such expensive loans----all so they have a piece of paper that says they are job ready---but they aren't really because their education was large and wide as opposed to laser focused on a particular career/major focus. :glare: I guess I am just now seeing something I didn't back when I first started college, but the amount of wasted time/money on classes that should have been covered in high school is ridiculous. I am so glad ds is now planning on College Plus to avoid this racket also, as he is interested in getting a BSBA and I'm so glad he will be able to CLEP out of the fluff electives so he can get to the meat of his major. He'll still be paying quite a bit for a degree, but at least it won't be $35000++ for mostly fluff :tongue_smilie: Am I the only one who seriously questions the sanity of this? I guess all these years homeschooling have left me critical of too much maybe...

We have all bombed understanding proofs in this house---even mathy ds! I tried very hard to understand them to teach and explain using the MUS DVD and solutions manual, but It was no use :001_huh:

I did email the company today since there was no easy way to see if a homeschool mom could order on the actual site---and I was informed they are MORE than happy to sell to homeschoolers! I am seriously looking at this now as it looks greAt and doesn't leave me with reservations like BJU lit does.

:lurk5: I've never heard of these texts, but they look as thorough as BJU lit!

OK, this is my favorite part of your quote!! I wish I knew more people like you IRL----our small town is ALL ABOUT....prom (gag), school team sports (gag) AND the social life revolves around here on the ONE public school...:001_huh:

Wow-sounds really exciting! :D

:grouphug::grouphug: so, so sorry Julie, but your husband Shane is now with the Lord with no more pain and suffering. My prayers go out to your and your children in dealing with your grief and loss.

I say KEEP IT :D You won it, your son does not need it. I won an Ipad 2 last year and kept it and I LOVE it!!! I never knew how convenient and useful a tablet was until I got this thing.

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Is it bad of me to believe that these monsters being in danger is the ONLY way they will understand how awful their behavior truly was? Society is horrified at them---and they should understand that actions like this go FAR beyond a time out or suspension, but could earn them a pack of outraged civilized human beings looking to really teach them a lesson in respect and proper behavior. They deserve to be scared".....

:iagree::iagree: 100%

LOL---too funny! I just figured I had grown 3 chins and not noticed it yet :tongue_smilie: