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  1. I've been researching Spanish for my kids, I have read here and other places that the OSU classes were great etc. But I looked and with fees and out of area charges it was going to be like $3k per class. Is that what some of you are paying for one class? Hopefully I'm missing something. Please show me the error in my ways (maybe a link?) Other Spanish curriculum suggestions would be helpful too! I have 2 high school kids and a middle schooler who will be next in line, with zero Spanish experience but 2 years Memorial Press Latin. Edit: Our local community college is $100 per credit hour.
  2. My son will be applying for dual enrollment at the local university near our home. I'm trying to get all his course descriptions completed now so I'm not losing my mind in January. When you write course descriptions, what tense is preferred? For example, for Honors Biology, do I say: "This course will cover cellular, viral, bacterial and genetics biology...."OR is it"This course covered cellular, viral, bacterial, and genetics biology"??? I realized that for classes he's taken at our co-op, I had just copied the teacher's descriptions without considering tense. Classes I've taught are written in past tense. I know they all need to be the same. I am assuming past tense since this is stuff he has taken?
  3. We’re in Texas and my son will be a freshman next year. High schoolers here have the option for taking dual enrollment classes at local community colleges. I’m trying to figure out the best course of action. Has anyone’s kids taken a dual enrollment college class and then self reviewed to take the AP exam for that class? Seems like that'd be the "best of both worlds." Are AP classes better if applying to highly selective schools? Son will be applying for some selective out-of-state schools' programs but also many in-state. Dual enrollment seems better if you’re attending in-state since it may not transfer out of state. Any insight would be great.
  4. Help! The following is requested from a University for Dual Enrollment: a statement from a teacher, counselor, or principal in support of the student's enrollment at University Is this a one line statement OR a 1 paragraph or more???? I have no idea what to write. Anybody with experience with dual enrollment counselor letters?
  5. I am working on FAFSA. I think the question is #29, where it asks you to say where you will be in college. It has a first-year-never-been-to-college and a first-year-been-to-college option. How would you handle this for a student who has done a dual enrollment class? Technically she HAS been to college, but perhaps dual enrollment does not count for the purpose of this question. Any thoughts?
  6. Based on a recent string, I picked up that typically to get advanced credit or to show advanced course work students either do AP or DE. My DD18 graduated with an AA prior to going to a selective LAC. She took no APs. I recently learned that attaining the prescribed scores on a selection of AP exams will earn a student a credit. DE classes do not allow a student to earn a credit though it is possible to test out of certain requirements though credits are not awarded. Now I am trying to decide whether for DD16 who is in the same dual enrollment program it is beneficial to take one or more APs. She would be taking APs only to open up here schedule a bit and not for additional street cred for her application. Is it possible to self-study for APs or is an approved curriculum required? I understand that we would need to find a school that would allow her to take the AP exam at but as we are in an urban area I think that this is possible. One other problem with the AP that I see at this moment is that the AP test fall during Finals/Graduation weeks and I would anticipate her taking at least one test each year if we go that route. See there anything else that I am missing? Thanks! Sarah
  7. We're navigating the numerous options for grade 11 this fall for our oldest (uncharted territory for us). This occurred to me: 1) AP classes are a year long. 2) Colleges TYPICALLY give 3 credit hours for successful AP test scores (there are exceptions, depending on college, class and AP score). 3) Dual-enrollment college semesters in an equivalent subject (let's say US History) TYPICALLY are 3-credit hours (4 for sci/math). 4) Colleges TYPICALLY have minimum admission requirements of numbers of years in different subjects, with 4 years English/lit, 3 years social sciences inc. 1 of US history, 3 years math, 3 years science inc. 1 year biology and 1 of physical science, being a common set. So...my question. Do colleges consider a 3-credit college DE semester course equivalent to a HS "year" of that subject, regarding satisfying their ADMISSION requirements? I'm guessing "no". The reason I ask is that this would free DS to load up on more STEM electives, if we could "knock out" US history, English, etc., in a semester of DE rather than a year of AP (we know these classes are harder; not inferring it's an easy "knock out"). It's not particularly important to us how many college credits he starts with at matriculation, or what classes he places out of; our main focuses are DS' candidacy at highly competitive STEM schools and/or academic scholarships at moderately competitive ones, and continuing to foster his joy of learning. Let's not branch off into discussions comparing AP and DE, cost, rigor, competitiveness of admissions, etc.; there are other threads for those. Let's assume DS can handle any option, cost is equal, and a substantial amount of high-level coursework is important to his ambitions. I'd love to hear from any parents who have walked this path all the way to college enrollment with their kids, and learn how DE semesters were considered by colleges - again, not for credits earned or class placement, but for fulfilling the ADMISSIONS requirements of colleges for years taken in a subject. I hope that makes sense. I'm willing to email a plethora of colleges to ask if needed, but thought I'd start with my wonderful WTMF community. :-) Thank you!
  8. Instead of watching the first NFL TV game yesterday (my team is already eliminated) I read some pertinent chapters from this study as was pointed out by Arcadia: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/574926-fyi-insights-and-recommendations-from-the-maa-national-study-of-college-calculus-2015/ If your future STEM student is using College Dual Enrollment to fulfill high school level material such as Precalculus you should read: Chapter 5 Placement and Student Performance in Calculus I page 60 " Precalculus as currently taught in most post-secondary institutions in the United States does very little to improve student chances of success in Calculus I and can actually be detrimental." I think the takeaway is make sure your student fully understands the Precalculus material covered by giving them a Calculus placement test or ALEKS and fill in any gaps before moving on to Calculus I. --------------------------------------------- on page 65 It also has a nice discussion of the ACT Compass and College Board Accuplacer tests along with ALEKS. I also learned about the topics that should be covered in a College Calculus I course.
  9. Looking for classes that are offered as dual enrollment courses for highschoolers that are actually classically based. Looking particularly at the History, Lit., Bible and Rhetoric combo would be awesome! The only one I am aware of is Potters with Belhaven U. Anyone know of any others? Thanks for your help!
  10. My dd just completed an online course from Coursera: Data Analysis and Statistical Inference taught by a professor at Duke. Would you call this dual enrollment on your homemade transcript?
  11. Can we talk about dual enrollment? We have an excellent JC nearby, and dd can start taking classes there at 14. It has been my intention to use the JC heavily during high school for outsourcing, verification of achievement level, and potentially even to collect transfer credits to the UC system, if dd decides to go that route. It is a more appealing option to me for a variety of reasons than the heavy AP/SAT2 testing route, and it's less expensive than many online options. I had assumed that we would use this for core subjects I didn't feel like I could do justice to at home. However, it seems in thinking about it more, and talking to dd, that it might be better to use the JC for electives, passions, things we really *can't* do at home, like Theater Arts and Equine Science. Dd could easily fill up her time/quota of JC classes taking interesting electives in her areas of passion. I guess my question is this - if she takes classes mostly in her interest areas, and does well, will this provide the kind of mommy-grade verification that I'm looking for? Or do I still need to be looking for some form of outside verification in each subject area? I'm interested in hearing how people who have done DE have used JC/CCs, and what role it has played in your student's high school experience.
  12. My kids are now dual enrolled in some classes at university and the 990 hours for secondary are not going to add up with these classes since they are only meeting 3-4 hours a week for 14 weeks. Is there a solution that doesn't mean piling on more work in their non-dual enrollment classes? Should I just count hours?
  13. I've been following the thread on DE, and it has been so helpful. I was wondering if you might be willing to respond to my specific situation as well? My son is a rising senior. Here's what I'm thinking for him for next year: Fall 2015 English 12: American Lit. - home US History - home using Funda Funda's curriculum & taking AP exam Spanish Calculus - at CC MacroEco. - at CC Spring 2016 English 12 - finish US History - finish Spanish - finish AP MicroEco - with PA This would be our first experience with CC, so I'm trying to reconcile this schedule with the advice below from Lee Binz's website. Avoid over-working your student. If your child is taking a full time community college course load, do not expect any additional homeschool classes. If your child has two full community college classes, they might be able to do one or two classes at home. If your child is taking one full community college class at a time, you might expect them to get about half of their usual homeschool workload completed. My son is a capable student, but doesn't have great executive skills (ie. time management). He is motivated, because he will have to get scholarships to attend either of the 2 private universities he is interested in, but he is just now making the connection between short-term diligence and long-term goals. He was a late bloomer physically, and I'd say his emotional development has paralleled that. His current aspirations are to major in economics or poli sci in undergrad, then go on to Law school. I'd like to go the CC route for Calculus because I don't want to teach it, and I'm thinking it will help give him a taste of college level expectations. I am concerned about whether it might move too quickly for him. We've used MathUSee all the way through; currently completing PreCalculus. He's doing well, but he's having to work hard to master the concepts. This is a change from previous years. As far as the macroeconomics, we have completed the Economics in a Box semester-long program. So, I don't think this information will be all new. My son will also be participating on our Mock Trial team, which will require about 4 hours a week during the fall semester. He is extremely self-motivated in this area. So, any thoughts?? Ashley
  14. Just curious if anyone else has run into the issue of CC limiting how many dual enrollment classes your student can take in a given semester. I just submitted all the paperwork for spring semester and dd was only registered for 2 of the 4 requested classes. I sent a nicely worded email to the administrator of her program thinking it was an oversight and was told that there is a limit of 2 courses per semester. They *might* be able to authorize 3, but she would need to check with the director. (Our state waives tuition and we are responsible for books and fees). We were told that there was a limit for the first semester to see if they could maintain the required GPA, but how in the world would a student complete a 32-40 hour program taking 2 classes a semester in their Junior/Senior years? i called the state headquarters for this program and she thought 18 hours per semester was the maximum, but also said that each school can make their own rules on this aspect. How would you approach this? Our plan was for her to finish the basic 32 hours in three semesters and then have the last semester open to take extra classes that will transfer to a 4-year university. Grrrrrr ....
  15. Hi Everyone, It appears that we just got a new unit cap for classes while attending a community college during highschool in California. Here is what it says on the form I have to use: Effective spring 2014, K-12 students are limited to 7 units in spring or fall term and 4 units in summer session. A student requesting enrollment in excess of these limits must petition to the Director of Enrollment Services and provide transcripts and written justification. See K-12 Minor Unit Petition. If the minor student is attending high school, the parent or guardian and the high school district official must sign. If the minor student has graduated high school or has received a California High School Proficiency Exam Certificate, then only the parent or guardian signature is required. If the minor student has been home schooled, then an official from the high school district where the student resides must sign and the parent or guardian must sign. (Private School Affidavit is Required) If the minor student is under 15 years of age, then permission to attend must be requested of the Palomar faculty member who will sign the form if permission is granted. Admissions staff will process the enrollment in person. In all cases, submit the form to the Admissions/Financial Aid Office in the Student Services Center in San Marcos or the Escondido Center. This is going to be a real challange for us. Our plan was to have dss take all Math and Science as dual enrollment. He was so looking forward to it. The unit cap now is 7. Most Math and Science courses are at least 4 units each which means he can never take both at the same time. I am wondering if this a statewide change or not? They just posted this change right before open enrollment this week.
  16. DD is starting dual enrollment classes this fall at a local community college. The tuition is waived but we'll need to cover books, fees and incidentals. Can we claim these under The Lifetime Learning Credit? Also, does anyone know if high school students are allowed to get a campus job through the Federal Work Study program? Thanks!
  17. http://www.collegeplus.org/prep This looks great, but I haven't heard of it before; just arrived in my email box. Any feedback?:lurk5:
  18. Our homeschool support group has been offered the opportunity to partner with Cedarville University in a dual enrollment program. Before signing a contract with the University, we would like to obtain both positive and negative feedback from former students and/or their parents. If you or someone you know has taken online courses at Cedarville for dual enrollment credit, please share your impressions with me. If you don't feel comfortable speaking about it publicly, please feel free to send me a private message here. Thanks so much, Angela
  19. My older son, 15, is twice exceptional (gifted with learning disabilities), and I thought other parents might find it helpful to know how we've navigated college/dual enrollment with those disabilities. In short, we've found enormous support but accommodations don't solve everything. I'm glad to answer questions on this list, off list, or via my blog. Accommodating Disability, College Style
  20. ...please help. So, DS is taking a course dual enrollment at the local cc. Turns out, he is not handling it very well. We have until the end of October to drop and leave no record. Of course, there will be no $ back. DH and I are trying to determine whether or not to drop. To drop: A C or below would look very bad in regards to potential 4-year colleges ?? (though he will probably go for an Associate's degree first) He cannot handle the class. (IMO mostly about executive thinking skills and laziness) $ is already gone, either way. To stay: What lesson does quitting teach? Not a good one. There is value in the attempt (he is learning, just not well enough) and he is learning what college profs expect from students. He probably won't get a science this year if he drops out. If he does, I'll be teaching it - and I'm pretty busy. (He doesn't do well independently) Any of you with experience in Dual Enrollment, I would really appreciate your ideas. Thanks, Sandra
  21. Does anyone have children that attend a CC over the summer and knock out a class? With my dd's first foray into public school, I'm realizing she will not have the time to devote to her academics like she used to. By this I mean the hours spent outside the house are much, much higher than ever before. For example, marching band takes about 25 hours a week. Thankfully, it's only one semester, and then she'll take concert band at a reasonable 5 hours a week. She also has choir, which is usually 5 hours a week, although in the two weeks before a concert it blooms to 15 hours. This would be fine if she were taking 6 credits, but she is taking more than that, and doesn't want to get rid of any academic classes, either. So...what about taking science at the CC during the summer? This is really the only class that would work, since her AP courses (through PA Homeschoolers) only meet during the school year. If she took, say, a semester of Chemistry at the CC during the summer, that would give her a full year's worth of high school credit, right? Or, she could take Chemistry as an evening class during the 2nd semester (next year, 2014) which would take the place of her evening marching band drills in her schedule. Basically what's happening is that she wants too many classes than will reasonably fit into her day. Is this making sense? For example, her Junior year (at this point) will look like this (her Freshman/Soph years look about the same): Math - 5 hours/week (1 credit) History - 5 hours/week (1 credit) English - 5 hours/week (1 credit) Latin - 5 hours (Lukeion) (1 credit) Phil - 3 hours/week (.5 credit) Gov't - 3 hours/week (.5 credit) AP Human Geo - 5 hours (PA Homeschoolers) - 1 credit SAT Prep/C.S. Lewis - (each for one semester) - 1 credit Band - 5 hours a week (25 during 1st semester) - 1 credit (the school gives this credit, but I'm counting the class as extra-curricular. However, it still takes the same amount of time) Choir - 5 hours a week (sometimes 15) - 1 credit (see band comment above) So....we don't want to drop anything, just fit in Science!! :tongue_smilie:
  22. I am so pleased to have stumbled upon this group searching for homeschooling support resources. I was wondering if any one else has been or is in a similar situation of enrolling your child in multiple schools or supplementing day school with home instruction. I would love to hear about other family's experiences, tips and traps, time-management strategies and working with a teenager's ADHD. My story. This is my first year homeschooling while my 10th grader is also enrolled full-time in a regular CCC day school. She is also enrolled for a 1/2 unit Driver's Ed @ online, public school; and I am HSing her for credit recovery (Algebra 1 and 9th grade English). For this credit recovery homeschooling curriculum, we use (as directed): SAXON Algebra and G4W (Grammar for Writing - Blue (9th gr)) with EWCO (Everyday Words of Classical Origin) for spelling and vocabulary supplementing with the day school's assigned Literature readings I coached her for the first time this summer with HSing for credit recovery in Religion using the same series as her high school. I say coach but it was generally self-directed. I set the schedule and graded the quizzes. This is my third time using multi-school enrollment. She supplemented her middle years with online Math instruction (gr 4-6). It made a tremendous difference with catching her up. The last two years, I supplemented her math instruction using IXL.com for online skill drills by micro sub-topics and grade. However, she developed extreme text anxiety for many of her classes because of the overwhelming amount of homework required and a lack effective instruction (pacing, scaffolding, no projects) that she had become accustomed to in public school. I wanted her to have a faith-based high-school education in a smaller setting than our community's three 2,000 student warehouses ... oops I mean high school. This is how it came about that my daughter is thrice enrolled. I am dreading Algebra simply because now I will have to teach her instead of the online course doing most of the work.
  23. Has anyone been in a dual enrollment situation where your child goes to public/charter school part time and does homeschool also? I need to write a letter for my intent to dual enroll for the purpose of having an agreement with the charter school. This is not the same as the school district required form for homeschooling which I already have. Just need some ideas on the best wording for this. This is this charter school's 2nd year and the first having implemented a dual enrollment policy (pushed by me). In it they specify a need to create a "plan" including required participation in student assessments and a consitent pattern of attendance. Thank you. I'd appreciate any input from those with experience in this area.
  24. Has anyone been in a dual enrollment situation where your child goes to public/charter school part time and does homeschool also? I need to write a letter for my intent to dual enroll for the purpose of having an agreement with the charter school. This is not the same as the school district required form for homeschooling which I already have. Just need some ideas on the best wording for this. This is this charter school's 2nd year and the first having implemented a dual enrollment policy (pushed by me). In it they specify a need to create a "plan" including required participation in student assessments and a consitent pattern of attendance. Thank you. I'd appreciate any input from those with experience in this area.
  25. After HS'ing K and 1st grade, we decided to try dual enrollment in a charter school mainly so I could have more time with the 4 and 1 year olds. I was hoping this would be the best of both worlds but although school doesn't even start until Monday, it is quickly looking like it's not going to work out at all. There have been so many issues trying to coordinate dual enrollment and testing in to 2nd grade due to Oct birthday. My experience with the administrators and the Board of Trustees has been a nightmare already culminating yesterday in their deleting my discussion posts from their Facebook page and apparently blocking me from making comments altogether. (I inquired about last years testing scores and made a comment about my disappointement over the uncleanlyness of the school). Ironically, they are not only unpersonable and rude but their incompetency is such that their left hand assigned DD to 2nd grade anyway without their right hand even knowing it. I feel like I have already invested, or should I say wasted, a good deal of time pursuing this that I owe it to myself and DD to see it through and at least see how it goes once she's in school. At the same time, I don't want to waste my time fighting for issues there anymore when I do have the alternative of just continuing to HS.
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