Well in the end it appears one of two things happened: 1. Grandma swallowed this pride so many of you are sure of and accepted somebodies money for the repairs. 2. Or perhaps AOC's political influence moved Grandma to the front on the line with FEMA.

I think it's more that somebody said something uncomfortable about AOC1

AOC makes approximately $174k/year. I would think if she really wanted G'ma back in her home she could have scraped together the cash over the last 4 years to make the needed repairs. No blame shifting at all just pointing out the obvious that leaky roofs fixed early require less repair than leaky roofs left unrepaired.

And I agree with you. My point is AOC did not have to wait for FEMA to make those repairs. Others not as fortunate as her did not have that option.

Correct me if I'm wrong but AOC posted about G'ma waiting since 2017 for repairs. This man started an GFM account to pay for said repairs. AOC had the option to make those repairs rather than wait for FEMA to get to them should she choose to do so. Clearly she chose not to make those repairs. I never said FEMA was perfect, in fact my point was she could have made those repairs herself, submit those receipts to FEMA for reimbursement rather than wait for FEMA. Perhaps the reimbursement would have taken some time, idk, but at least G'ma would not have a leaky roof and the further damage that has likely been done by now. I do wonder if you would be so charitable in your giving family member a pass on this if the tables were turned and it was this Matt fellow posting about his grandma and AOC starting the GFM page?

The flu vax they got is likely useless at this point assuming they got the vax several months ago.

I assume this would fall under FEMA and from what I know of FEMA (from someone I know that has worked for FEMA) AOC/family could have had this fixed back in 2017. FEMA will reimburse for what work done with receipts proving the work was done.

I wonder if AOC consulted grandma before using her for a political pawn? It's been since 2017 that grandma's roof has been leaking and AOC nor family has found the time or money to fix the roof. And now it's the government's failing of grandma? I don't know Matt Walsh, but I would have taken the money if it would get the repairs needed. After this amount of time with a leaking roof grandma will likely need more than just a new roof. I like the idea of donating the money to relief efforts in PR. And to you, Pinball, I hope your grandma appreciates the depth of your devotion and commitment to her 😉

No "personal investment in wanting lab leak" here. I want the full truth of the origins of this pandemic to be known, whichever way that turns out. I have worked as a RN through out this pandemic. I think we in the medical field, who have put our lives on the line day after day, deserve the truth. And from that truth what will be done to prevent it from happening again. If you read back through this thread I think you will see much more effort to shut down any debate coming from those that want to believe the zoonosis explanation. Why are they so interested in shutting down any debate with their "No, just stop"?? I am fine with zoonosis being the origin. Let's see the proof. I just want the truth. It matters going forward where this pandemic came from. We need to know so we can do everything in our power to prevent it from happening again. Over 3.5million people have died from this pandemic. To just decide it is not important to know where it came from or to just say we'll never know and blow it off is unfathomable to me! A couple of articles about the importance of knowing the truth and why scientists have a vested interest in all of this mess. https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-we-should-welcome-the-lab-leak-theory/ https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins And let me just add, having seen the fear in my coworkers eyes (and experienced that fear myself) when we were briefed on what our policy and procedure (what a huge unfunny clusterf that was) was for Ebola when that was in the news, and having seen and felt the same fear this year. I know more than a few nurses that have said if we don't make every effort to find the truth of the origins and do what we can to prevent it from happening again and it happens again we are out. So those of you among us who don't think it matters what the truth is and spent this time clutching your pearls and handwringing over Buffy's lack of play dates, or where your next roll of tp was coming from, or what your next Netflix binge would be now is the time for you to enroll in nursing school so you'll be ready to take the helm! You can have it. I'll take my turn at binging Netflix and getting paid to stay home!

I know of a person who had a mild case of covid in April 2020 and still had antibodies in Feb. 2021.

BSN here who has taken care of many Covid-19 patients. Who has not missed one freaking day of work during this entire pandemic. I have a preference for no cover ups, no shutting down investigations into the origins of this pandemic! Just the truth would be nice!!

Could Tony Fauci's emails coming out prompt the reversal?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/06/03/how_fact-checkers_mishandled_the_covid-19_origin_debate.html From the article: The lab-leak theory’s newfound credibility is due in part to reporting by Nicholas Wade, a former science reporter at the New York Times. Wade, who was cited in PolitiFact’s May explainer on the virus’s origins, wrote a lengthy piece in Medium on May 2 arguing that media claims of a “scientific consensus” on the natural origin of the virus relied on questionable sources. He contended that two scientific groups’ statements – one in The Lancet and another in Nature spearheaded by Dr. Kristian Andersen – were taken as evidence of a scientific “consensus” but were “not at first examined as critically as they should have been.” “The [Peter] Daszak and Andersen letters were really political, not scientific statements, yet were amazingly effective,” Wade wrote. “Articles in the mainstream press repeatedly stated that a consensus of experts had ruled lab escape out of the question or extremely unlikely. Their authors relied for the most part on the Daszak and Andersen letters, failing to understand the yawning gaps in their arguments.” The Lancet statement, which denounced “conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin” and declared its signatories had “no competing interests,” was in fact riddled with undisclosed conflicts of interest that raise questions about the impartiality of its signatories. As I said before CYA in action not science. Absolutely shameful!

From the interview with Dr. Ebright: Regarding the inspection personnel, at least one member of the WHO mission team, Ecohealth Alliance President Dr. Peter Daszak, seems to have conflicts of interest that should have disqualified him from being part of an investigation of the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic. Yes. Daszak was the contractor who funded the laboratory at WIV that potentially was the source of the virus (with subcontracts from $200 million from the US Department of State and $7 million from the US National Institutes of Health), and he was a collaborator and co-author on research projects at the laboratory. Daszak's main interest is likely in CYA.

From the article: At this point in time, there is no secure basis to assign relative probabilities to the natural-accident hypothesis and the laboratory-accident hypothesis. Nevertheless, there are three lines of circumstantial evidence that are worth noting. Proceed, Doctor. First, the outbreak occurred in Wuhan, a city of 11 million persons that does not contain horseshoe-bat colonies, that is tens of kilometers from, and that is outside the flight range of, the nearest known horseshoe-bat colonies. Furthermore, the outbreak occurred at a time of year when horseshoe bats are in hibernation and do not leave colonies Another one. Second, the outbreak occurred in Wuhan, on the doorstep of the laboratory that conducts the world’s largest research project on horseshoe bat viruses, that has the world’s largest collection of horseshoe-bat viruses, and that possessed and worked with the world’s closest sequenced relative of the outbreak virus. The laboratory actively searched for new horseshoe-bat viruses in horseshoe-bat colonies in caves in remote rural areas in Yunnan province, brought those new horseshoe-bat viruses to Wuhan, and then mass-produced, genetically manipulated, and studied those new horseshoe-bat viruses, year-round, inside Wuhan. A remarkable coincidence. The last one? Third, the bat-SARS-related-coronavirus projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology used personal protective equipment (usually just gloves; sometimes not even gloves) and biosafety standards (usually just biosafety level 2) that would pose very high risk of infection of field-collection, field-survey, or laboratory staff upon contact with a virus having the transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2.

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I was just coming over to post this too. It's past time to look into this.

Which is exactly why I am suspicious of there being little interest in investigating the origin, Of course, it's from a wet market. CYA, nothing to see here.

More thoughts on the origin of Covid-19. https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

After having a lot of trees cut down last year I have a blank slate to start anew. I would like to have a general plan/design to start with. Do you have any recommendations for books or magazines that have been helpful to you for landscape/garden design?

Maybe one of these would work for you. https://www.amazon.com/customerpicks/Explore-headboard-lamps-for-reading/088045ccf65b2c0146ea

I had no idea these people were still a thing. I assume this is one of the kids grown up and repeating the televised life thing?? Never understood the fascination with the FOO. Doesn't sound like they had a good outcome.