This. Frankly, they are setting themselves up for a world of hurt if they will need Medicaid for nursing home care because this transaction of selling the property to her for 1/5th or less of its market value will look like an attempt to hide assets and be poorer on paper than they really are. I suspect that they will not qualify for medicaid, and OP's sister will have to take care of them physically and financially. If she is prepared to do that, then okay. Given that CNA home care here is $25 an hour, $50 for a nurse, and $17 for a hoursekeeper, in a 24 hr day she would be racking up easily $480 worth of wages or over $12,000 a month. At that rate, if she lives with them 2 years and does all the care taking, she has accumulated $264,000 worth of wages. If they live longer than that, the four siblings should be very grateful for the care she provides and gladly hand over the property to her. Having done more than my fair share of elder care, I can say without a doubt that I would have no problem turning over a half million dollar property to someone who was the sole care giver full time for my mother or mother in law. As it is, we do not have anyone but us to manage both of them and their wills/trusts will split the proceeds of what is left with our siblings who have done NOTHING! So my advice is that if she is going to live with them and take responsibility for them, let it go. If she is not, than yes, I would find that very upsetting though I tend to be of the "it is their money to do with what they want".

To be honest with you, I feel like our society has deteriorated to the point that not only have we demonstrated school is not safe for anyone, and it also is massive source of abuse and trauma. I don't blame the teachers because all of this abusive crap is dictated to them in pain of job loss. They do not have any agency. The elephant in the room is that children would probably be better off not attending. Gen Alpha is going to be so riddled with PTSD that they aren't going to be functional. Since the Oxford shooting, the number of parents reporting their kids - in my district which as yet has not had a shooting but has had credible threats so it is likely a when, not if situation - are having major mental health issues, nightmares, gastro intensinal distress, stress migraines, bouts of uncontrollable crying, mounting phobias, anxiety, OCD, total distrust of all adults, survival mentality. For them, school is a no man's land and the fact that their parents keep making them go has made them feel deeply betrayed, as if their parents truly do not care what happens to them.

The getting lost thing is dumb because GPS, Google Maps, and a simple phone call to the bus garage could have solved the issue. So the lack of critical thinking on the part of the bus driver is ridiculous. Not putting the van in park is just a whole nother level of scariness. He needs to have a different kind of job.

She will need a couple of body guards, and I guarandamntee you they won't be provided. If I were her, I would move to Hawaii or Alaska or Samoa or something before he gets out. There won't be anything stopping him, and with 10 years to sit and foment his hate and rage, he will be a very mobile, lethal weapon even if he cannot buy a gun legally.

Also, everyone, I did not divulge the info about my father for sympathy, just as a way to illustrate the plea option in Michigan. My father figure, for what it is worth, was absolutely out of his mind when he did it. BUT, the extenuating circumstances, many of which he was SOLELY responsible for, prior to the act was 100% preventable. He spent a year allowing himself to get into that state physically, refusing medical care because he didn't want to pay his Medicare deductible even though Mark and I gave him $5000 and begged him to get help. He was totally in his right mind when he made that usual for himself bull headed decision. And from there it was a long litany of egregious choices that landed him in the position to NOT be in control. Even his own therapists recognized it. There is a lot of history I won't relate. But, he was not remotely innocent by any stretch, and my brother and I were just fine with the judge locking him up and letting him die in prison if that is what the judge decided. As it was, we just got a whole lot more verbal abuse heaped on us when he was sent home to serve his probation on hospice and die. I can't even describe it. Suffice it to say, the man I once loved so much as a child is not a person I miss now. I don't want anyone to think that I am in a bad place over what he did or that there should be sympathy for him being unable to invoke an insanity plea. There are definitely people who are locked up who should be in psych hospitals or in out patient care, and the mercy of the court often does not acknowledge this. My father was not one of these people. He could have stopped the train loooooooooong before it came into the station so to speak. He is gone, and my mother is living her best life without him. What I will say is that unless something changes, though these people will be ineligible to own a fire arm legally, the reality is that they will likely have them, possibly even the ones they owned at the time of the crime. It is voluntary surrender here. No police come asking much less looking. They don't have the resources to toss felons houses. No one came for my father's firearms. No one. My brother and husband tossed the house, and confiscated what they could which is actually a felony for them because they don't have the legal right to take his guns. No joke. They did it anyway. Then when he had been dead about six months, my husband was doing some repair work for my mom, and found a loaded one hidden in a hole in the floor of the closet that we had no idea was there until mom nearly put her foot through it.

Yes. All of this. It should also not be over looked that the father made threats from jail. It was mentioned on CNN March 8 of this year. This family simply must remain behind bars for the sake of us all. I am actually discouraged that 10-15 is all they received. With good behavior they could be out in less than 10 years, and I would not put it past either of them to take revenge on the community, the prosecutor and judge and their families (assuming they can find their addresses), and pretty much anyone they feel had a hand in their incarceration. I would have been just fine with locking them up and throwing away the keys. We live 40 minutes away from this community, and have acquaintances whose relatives/friends died in that mass shooting. They are terrified of the parents.

Michigan does not have the not guilty by reason of insanity plea anymore. Medical issues can be taken into account by judges as a possibility for mercy and leniency if the person plead guilty but mentally ill. However, it is entirely up to the judge and leniency is only given if beyond a shadow of a doubt the person did not know what they did was wrong. Ethan indicated when the forensic psychiatrist interviewed him that he for sure knew when he did it that it was wrong/illegal/immoral to do it. My father, who was in the midst of oxygen levels so low it is mind boggling that he was conscious, and experiencing paraneoplastics syndrome (in the brain) was still found guilty but mentally ill when he attempted to kill my mother and commit suicide, actions which left her very injured but him not so much. His lawyer was able to plead it down to assault, and the judge sentenced him to 5 months suspended because by the time he was sentenced, he was on hospice and barely physically able to even be taken to court for sentencing.

Agreed. Once someone demonstrates that they will use a car as a weapon, then continuing to provide them has to be some sort of accomplice to the crime. This is like giving a drunk driver, whom you know is drunk, a car to drive. There has to be responsibility for doing something so egregious to assist someone in killing or maiming someone else. This wasn't accidental by any stretch, and they knew for certain that he deliberately engages in reckless driving for sport.

I agree with this. I don't think future genealogy trumps present, living descendents wishes.

Right!!! I will have 16 stupid, scoliosis riddled Amish Paste tomatoes to scaffold. I have decided pumpkins are NOT going to be in the mix. I am making permanent trellises for my stupid tomatoes out of 1x1x8 wood with rope grid squares. Not cheap. Maybe with luck the dumb trellises will last 2 years before my alien tomato plants have trashed them! But I can't help myself. They made the best taco/salsa/chili/pasta sauce I have ever made. I am addicted to the ridiculous monsters.

Once you can get the court transcripts online, read them. The stunning level of inaction from these parents goes beyond just what was released as sound bites on the news. Their cell phones were dumped along with their son and the guy she was having an affair with. If you read all of it, you will come to the same conclusion as the jury. They didn't just neglect their kid. They didn't just fail to take him seriously. They literally admitted he was effed up and likely to kill someone and laughed it up. They bought him the gun knowing full well what he was probably going to do with it. The stuff they admitted to knowing and doing nothing about was beyond the pale. This was the case of a teen saying and being serious that he was going to kill someone if they did not get him help, a school that begged them to get him help (but should be charged with negligence and manslaughter for allowing him to go back to class instead of calling 911 and having medics with the permission of police to force him to be transported to the ER for altered mental status which was so effing apparent it staggered the imagination), and evil people who didn't give an eff if anyone died so long as they were not inconvienced, and then went on the lam because they KNEW they were guilty as sin. Children died, adults died, an entire community was shattered, and a generation of students have PTSD. They were 100% complicit, practically co conspirators in it. And all that mother wanted to do that morning was get back to her sex man/affair boy. Apparently it didn't occur to her that those text conversations would end up coming out nor that he would turn state's evidence on her and her husband. To quote Spiderman Uncle, "With great power, comes great responsibility." Don't want to accept the consequences for owning a gun and letting it fall into the hands of minors and mentally ill people? Don't freaking buy one!

I agree with you about pumpkins. I cannot get the stupid things to produce. I am not going to try again. 3 years of nothing.

What I do know is my mother in law, 2 years younger than fil, regretted working until 65 because he came down with cancer couple of months after she did retire. He died 2 years later. They had no retired time together, and it was exhausting going from full time work (she was a nursing professor and was often at work before 6 am during clinicals to work with the nursing staff on schedules for her students), to full time care giver with no down time in between. She had the opportunity to reiterate at 62 and lived to regret not doing it. So I vote if the finances align, retire and if you want, pick up side work whenever you want more money for something special. Mark is retiring in 5 years. I really want to get a full time job now to replace the fine arts job that went away during the shut down 2020 melt down. But he fears something similar. All of his male relatives have had some form of cancer by 67. He takes better care of himself than they did, and he gets a lot of screenings. However, genetics are genetics. So he prefers I not work at that point so we can do something things together before what he sees as his time bomb going off.

Mark projected the eclipse with our spotting scope onto white paper for our grandsons so they didn't have to spend so much time with their necks cranked looming up.

A hike to experience without crowds sounds wonderful! We rented a place in the mountains on a working ranch, but the home was WAY away from light sources. We have had lovely night sky viewing and a perfect day for the eclipse. Just us, our dd and son in law, and 3 grandkids. None of our other kids could get vacation from their jobs or time off from grad school. So not having them was a little sad. Still, it was very special.

I have a gardening magazine subscription and am get a facial once in a while that includes a really nice scalp and shoulder massage. I find it really helps me have fewer headaches.

The birds here became eerily silent, and a hawk landed about 50-75 ft from us and sat until totality was over.

Thanks! Good to know!

Dd said she got a "how to make your money work for you and build wealth" email one time from a rich, bank CEO which said everyone should stop buying 5 dollar coffee. She couldn't remember the last time she bought a coffee. Of course if one does it even once per week, $20 a month for 12 months is not exactly the bundle of money that will allow her to buy stocks and get rich. She was yelling at the screen, "Hey you entitled putz! Pay your damn emoyees enough money that they have some hope of being able to retire as a middle class citizen one day instead of facing the choice between affording their prescriptions or paying their electric bill!!" The entitled monied folk really need to get their heads out of their butts.

100%. My parents had the good dishes, the everyday dishes, the extra special once a year dishes. There were the tablecloths for each occasion and when money was flush they ate out with friends a lot while all the kids stayed home with the older teens and had pizzas which were ordered. We didn't that. I had one set of plain white dishes for everything and no tablecloths unless I thrift store found them or sewed them myself. But our kids went to Space Camp and had good quality music instruments. Our adult kids are frugal in so many area of life so that they fan save for experiences. Dd and hubby save to take their kids on field trips, special vacations. Our sons save so they can visit National Parks, pay cash for good used cars so they don't have car payments, and are currently saving to go to Denmark together to visit the area where their great great grandma and grandpa were from. My silent generation grandparents saved to travel frugally and for landscaping plants since gardens were a big deal to them. My other grandparents were very poor, but it was important to them to take their children on an annual adventure so no matter how tight money was, she would save pennies here and there and sell apples from their trees each fall so that in the summer, they could take their kids camping and fishing. A large tarp cast over rope tied between two trees, stake down on sides, a tarp to lay on with bedrolls, cooking simple meals over a fire, and usually eating a lot of fish. My mom and her aunt said these were the best times of their entire childhood. People have different priorities, and choose to enjoy and spend on different things. Diversity, the spice of life. That said, I am fairly certain my kids view home ownership as a non option. They also figure every dime they pay into SS is a goner to the generation before them so they are all packing it away for, as my middle son puts it, "The apocalyptic dystopia world burning future that awaits us in global warming and at a time when our bodies will be failing us. Maybe we will still be able to burn dollars for fuel in the winter." So ya. They aren't feeling much hope of any pleasant future so would like to make some good memories now.

Excellent cheeses High end cooking bourbon and wine Decent cuts of beef on the occasion that Mark wants a steak on the grill I cook a lot of gourmet type meals. But even with good ingredients we still pay far less per serving for those meals than we would if we ate them at a restaurant.

Apologizing to those you feel it is just a crappy thing to do to travel for it, and no big deal. Don't read further please. Our grandsons thought it was amazing. Mark used the spotting scope with a sun filter to project the eclipse on white paper so they could watch it without having to stare up for so long with their glasses. The animals here became very quiet, and a hawk landed maybe 50 ft away and just sat during totality. We got some nice pictures using ISO filter film for the lenses of our cell phones. We had a very remote location. We are at a ranch house in the mountains of NW Arkansas. We rolled in with all of our meals planned, every single thing we would need packed. We went into a quaint town the first day to seek our locally made items or farm market because we like to support local businesses when we do something like this. I scored some really nice lemon goat milk soap and bought several bars and some honey from a local lady, fresh milk, and some hand knit dish rags to take home. I love those things, but seem to be incapable of learning to knit. Play the Rach 2 Concerto? Sure, no worries. Make hands coordinate knitting needles? Totally beyond my brain ability. 🤣 We leave at 5:30 am tomorrow. Dd and family will leave around 9am. They only have to drive back Alabama and will be taking side roads in order to avoid Memphis. We will be using side roads nearly the whole way until we make it to I80 and pick I 94E into Michigan. Hopefully no traffic jams by avoiding the interstates.

This. Our adults kids keep a few bottles of nice beer, a bottle of wine, and selzer waters on hand because they never go to restaurants or pubs anymore. A splurge is a crappy Litrle Caesars Pizza because they are too tired to cook.

In the past 3 days we have gotten about 10 hours per day here at eclipse camp.

No one can go wrong with a runny egg on anything! I had a piece of leftover steak wamred up this morning and deposited an over easy egg on top of it. Divine.