SarahW Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 It's a new show on Monday nights on CBS about a group of high-IQ individuals. I'm not sure what to make of it yet. I like that it shows that not all geniuses are "nerds." I like that it shows that high intelligence can manifest in different ways - they're not all computer/math geeks. I'm not sure what the "translator" is there for. Smart people can't communicate with dumb people? I'm not sure I like how the genius kid is portrayed. Is he on the spectrum? Or are all genius kids supposed to be quiet and eccentric? Does the FBI agent need to be such a cliche? IDK, I come from a rather blue-collar family, and I've gotten comments like "oh, it's great that CP is smart and all, just be careful he doesn't become a nerd." Ummm, ookay? A show like this may help people have a better perception of "smart people" but I'm not sure it's succeeding. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheres Toto Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I like the show. I really dislike the opening voice-over for some reason. I think they use the word "genius" too often. I do think the kid is supposed to be autistic. In the first episode they talked about him having special needs and not talking to anyone but his mom and barely to her. It was the guys in the group who realized the motions he was doing with salt/pepper shakers was actually a game of chess (or something like that, I think it was chess). I think Paige is supposed to help them be more patient with "normal" people and remember the social niceties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinivanMom Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I only saw the first episode, but something about it really rubbed me the wrong way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I miss Alphas. I am too upset about the cancelation to watch Scorpion which seems to be a knock off of the concept in many ways. I might be wrong (most likely), but I'm not done pouting yet :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The re-hashing of the back story in the opening credits every week gets old, but I am enjoying the show. It's predictable, somewhat exciting, and not overly gory. We enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm only up to episode 4. It's "ok" - I'm still not sure about it 100% though. It gives me shades on Numbers and some aspects of The Pretender. I could go either way at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 I do think the kid is supposed to be autistic. In the first episode they talked about him having special needs and not talking to anyone but his mom and barely to her. It was the guys in the group who realized the motions he was doing with salt/pepper shakers was actually a game of chess (or something like that, I think it was chess). I do remember him being referred to as "special" and I took that to mean people thought he was cognitively hampered of some sort. So now, he's a genius, and according to the last episode, he's taking algebra. He's, what, about 10? Was a special deal with the school board in Paige's benefits package? I know ASD has a range of expressions, but that boy's behavior doesn't really match any people I've met on the spectrum. Autism isn't just about being quiet, kwim? I know I can't expect accuracy in a tv show, but while I think the adult characters are getting portrayed positively, I just feel they are dropping the ball a bit when it comes to portraying "genius" kids. And, yes, they use the word "genius" an awful lot, don't they? Along with IQ numbers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's a new show on Monday nights on CBS about a group of high-IQ individuals. I'm not sure what to make of it yet. I like that it shows that not all geniuses are "nerds." I like that it shows that high intelligence can manifest in different ways - they're not all computer/math geeks. I'm not sure what the "translator" is there for. Smart people can't communicate with dumb people? I'm not sure I like how the genius kid is portrayed. Is he on the spectrum? Or are all genius kids supposed to be quiet and eccentric? Does the FBI agent need to be such a cliche? IDK, I come from a rather blue-collar family, and I've gotten comments like "oh, it's great that CP is smart and all, just be careful he doesn't become a nerd." Ummm, ookay? A show like this may help people have a better perception of "smart people" but I'm not sure it's succeeding. Thoughts? We love it! They needed at least one non-genius, I guess, to make it more interesting, and also to be able to verbally explain things to the audience on an average level. Also, undoubtedly, some romance is coming, so we need some interesting differences. Yes, I think it is pretty conclusive that the genius kid is on the spectrum, even from the first show, where he was moving things around on a counter, and one of the guys could tell what he was doing and why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I like the show. I really dislike the opening voice-over for some reason. I think they use the word "genius" too often. I do think the kid is supposed to be autistic. In the first episode they talked about him having special needs and not talking to anyone but his mom and barely to her. It was the guys in the group who realized the motions he was doing with salt/pepper shakers was actually a game of chess (or something like that, I think it was chess). I think Paige is supposed to help them be more patient with "normal" people and remember the social niceties. I agree that they use the word "genius" far too often, but I think that is more of a factor of explaining their behavior to the still-growing audience. I would suspect that will level out if it becomes extremely popular like The Big Bang Theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewelma Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 When I saw the title of this thread, I thought "Wait, has dmmetler's dd decided to get a non-reptilian pet?!?!" :lol: Ruth in NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrale Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 When I saw the title of this thread, I thought "Wait, has dmmetler's dd decided to get a non-reptilian pet?!?!" :lol: Ruth in NZ Wow I was thinking the same thing! Then I saw the description of the show and I thought it was a reality/documentary. I assume it is not. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It's like NICS but not the navy, the FBI, and not the regular officers but genius people on a new team of crime solvers that are trying to prove themselves. And a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaConquest Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 When I saw the title of this thread, I thought "Wait, has dmmetler's dd decided to get a non-reptilian pet?!?!" :lol: Ruth in NZ My son is asking for a snake now. I was going to start a thread blaming dmmetler's dd. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewelma Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 My sister has a de-fanged tarantula, and I was going to suggest that instead of a scorpion if she was leaving the vertebrate world. :thumbup1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 When I saw the title of this thread, I thought "Wait, has dmmetler's dd decided to get a non-reptilian pet?!?!" :lol: Ruth in NZ Does NZ get American shows on a couple season delay? I guess you'll have to come back to this thread in a year or two. :tongue_smilie: Wow I was thinking the same thing! Then I saw the description of the show and I thought it was a reality/documentary. I assume it is not. Right? According to the show, it's based on the "true story" of a real guy. I don't trust that line, and never heard of the guy, so I haven't bothered to look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if a tarantula was in our future. One of the people she goes to Repticon just to see is a 14 yr old who got his parents into snakes (Kenyan sand boas) when he was about 7-8. Several years later, they now breed snakes and travel he SE USA vending at expos over the summer. He started a tarantula breeding business a couple of years ago, with the help of his younger brother (I think they were 10 and 12). Yes, they're homeschooled too. Scorpions are less likely. You can handle at least some tarantulas because their venom doesn't affect humans or their fangs are too short to penetrate, but scorpions are a different story, and I draw a hard line over anything that venomous to humans or grows too big for DD to handle by herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Scorpions are less likely....I draw a hard line over anything that venomous to humans or grows too big for DD to handle by herself. Sheesh! There you go with all those crazy parent limitations! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrale Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Does NZ get American shows on a couple season delay? I guess you'll have to come back to this thread in a year or two. :tongue_smilie: According to the show, it's based on the "true story" of a real guy. I don't trust that line, and never heard of the guy, so I haven't bothered to look it up. I wonder if NZ is still so far behind. It was like that in Australia when I was a kid. But now my mum in Aust. Is getting the slows I watch in in the US the same week or a week later in most cases. Bones is also based on a true story..... But based so loosely. Rather it is based on a book, based on a true story and the book is not very much like the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Does NZ get American shows on a couple season delay? I guess you'll have to come back to this thread in a year or two. :tongue_smilie: I'm not sure where you're up to but in NZ we're up to Season 1, Episode 5 - or maybe 6. I'm watching it on delay so I'm only up to 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 I'm not sure where you're up to but in NZ we're up to Season 1, Episode 5 - or maybe 6. I'm watching it on delay so I'm only up to 4 Huh, English markets must be better off than Non-English markets. I'm always making my Dutch SIL jealous for seeing the latest movies and shows before she does. Once, when my aunt was visiting in The Netherlands, we were at a friend's who had Days of Our Lives or something like that on. My aunt commented "Oh, is that lady alive again?" (because in soaps characters can die and then come back to life???) and our friend said, "No, she never died." Then my aunt realized it was an old season, and tried to salvage the spoiler by saying that she that she must have confused that character with someone else. :lol: Not a funny - I've lost whole seasons of shows moving back and forth. ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 It's predictable, somewhat exciting, and not overly gory. It's like NICS but not the navy, the FBI, and not the regular officers but genius people on a new team of crime solvers that are trying to prove themselves. And a child. The funny thing about this is that the FBI team for the show Criminal Minds are, in fact, highly intelligent people with higher-than-average IQ's. It's not what the show is centered on, so they don't mention it often. But the gore, yes, ugh, it's too much. The same could sort of be said for NCIS (except for Tony, of course :p ). But again, that's not the focus. I liked Numb3ers, but sometimes I thought the little brother was presented like a magician, and that the knowledge math gave him was nearly paranormal. I just find it ironic that for all the anti-intellectualism in this country, dramas about super-smart people are popular. Like they are some sort of superheroes in regular-people disguise. Just some rambling thoughts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrale Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Huh, English markets must be better off than Non-English markets. I'm always making my Dutch SIL jealous for seeing the latest movies and shows before she does. Once, when my aunt was visiting in The Netherlands, we were at a friend's who had Days of Our Lives or something like that on. My aunt commented "Oh, is that lady alive again?" (because in soaps characters can die and then come back to life???) and our friend said, "No, she never died." Then my aunt realized it was an old season, and tried to salvage the spoiler by saying that she that she must have confused that character with someone else. :lol: Not a funny - I've lost whole seasons of shows moving back and forth. ^_^ Days of Our Lives might still be years behind in Australia. The lag was so big that one of the kids was an adult when I moved to the US. I think it is near impossible to catch up as it is showed 5 days a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrale Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 So I looked up the guy the show is based upon. Impressive. I wouldn't say it is a true story. Just that it was inspired by him. He did do some military contract work. And a lot more! But I don't believe he was in a special Homeland Secureity Task Force. I have now seen 2 episodes and I like the show. It kind of reminds me of Leverage (but they often committed crimes) or several other shows that failed. http://www.scorpioncomputerservices.com/the_founder.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 So I looked up the guy the show is based upon. Impressive. I wouldn't say it is a true story. Just that it was inspired by him. He did do some military contract work. And a lot more! But I don't believe he was in a special Homeland Secureity Task Force. I have now seen 2 episodes and I like the show. It kind of reminds me of Leverage (but they often committed crimes) or several other shows that failed. http://www.scorpioncomputerservices.com/the_founder.html Oh, so that's why the show is called Scorpion. I was wondering about that. So in real life he and his team of geniuses do consulting work for....corporations. That's incredibly less sexy. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrale Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Oh, so that's why the show is called Scorpion. I was wondering about that. So in real life he and his team of geniuses do consulting work for....corporations. That's incredibly less sexy. :lol: He did do military work. But I don't think he gas a team of geniuses. That us what makes the program. The team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapbookbuzz Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 We really enjoy the show! Even my Aspie daughter, who is 16, enjoys it. We all agree that it portrays non-neurotypical people in a positive light. I've watched every episode and never thought of Paige's son as autistic. And the reason for him not getting a lot of screen time could be for a variety of reasons. He is younger than 16 and there are child labor laws that limit the amount of hours he's allowed to work (and acting is working). The word 'genius' is mostly just used in the intro. Paige's 'job' is to remind the geniuses how to talk to NTs (neurotypicals). I do disagree with the intro calling Paige 'normal.' That word just needs to go. Nothing is 'normal.' Aside from that, this show is a breath of fresh air. I do like the 'NUMB3RS-esque' endings because they are very family focused. We've enjoyed watching a show in which, for the most part, everyone in the group respects each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm afraid I've given up. It just grated too much with all the "us and them" nonsense, and going over and over and over how different they are and how they cannot possibly interact with the "normals" without help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I gave up too. After about the seventeenth time the guy told someone his IQ in a "Look how smart I am, how dare you question me!" fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapbookbuzz Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I agree that what seems to be a high ego can get very old, very fast. What I have learned over the past few years hanging out with published authors is this: Every good story has each character dealing with a personal conflict as well as the overall conflict within the story. Walter's seems to be learning that just because other people do not have an IQ as high as his doesn't mean they're stupid. He has to learn how to interact with them on a positive human level just as the NTs need to learn to interact with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I gave up too. After about the seventeenth time the guy told someone his IQ in a "Look how smart I am, how dare you question me!" fashion. Yeah, that part gets annoying and overdone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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