runningirl71 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Okay, I found some Dolciani books at my local thrift store: Modern Algebra Structure and Method, book 1, 1965 copyright Modern Algebra and Trigonometry Structure and Method, Book 2, 1965 copyright I got both of these for a grand total of $8.03. These are just the student books, no teacher manuals. I hope that is a good deal! I am looking for the pre-algebra book, if anyone would like to give me tips and pointers of where to look. I hadn't even decided what I would be doing for highschool level math, but just stumbled upon these. For those of you who use the Dolciani sequence, do you just check e-bay and amazon all the time? Are there other places to look? Thanks for any help!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Great White North Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Yep, you got a deal. I bought a 8th grade Dolciani book here a while ago, and the seller said that back then ('60s) there wasn't a pre-algebra book. So, if you're looking for pre-algebra of that vintage, you might just look for 7th and 8th grade math books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Okay! Thanks! I'm not exactly sure what I'll use. I haven't thought this through a whole lot yet. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm open. We will be doing Singapore Primary Math through 6b. If anyone has advice on what I would need to do as a bridge between Singapore and the Doliciani books, I would appreciate it!:) ETA: Although dd is only in 5th grade, I would like to plan out our course, so we can stay on course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Have a look at this very thorough thread about Dolciani. I'm still subscribed to it, for future reference for myself. http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37377 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa B Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I have a Dolciani Pre-Algebra (actually called Pre-Algebra) from 1970. The first unit is on set theory. I think it will work fine as an intro to the 60's Dolciani Algebra I and II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Yes, you got a good deal as you didn't have to pay any shipping. Now, I'm off to subscribe to that other thread someone linked (when I clicked on it I was no longer signed in and I want to subscribe to it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane in NC Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Pat on the back from the Dolciani Proselytizer. Job well done! Now welcome to the club (or is that cult)? Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Pat on the back from the Dolciani Proselytizer. Job well done! Now welcome to the club (or is that cult)? Jane I'm aiming for cult status. I just got my 1978 algebra II and trig book from paperback swap. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Pat on the back from the Dolciani Proselytizer. Job well done! Now welcome to the club (or is that cult)? Jane Good question. We could get draconian and do an exhautive study on the definitions and roots of the words club & cult, do a serious discussion on what those words mean today... or not. Cult or club, neither word scares me.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 I have a Dolciani Pre-Algebra (actually called Pre-Algebra) from 1970. The first unit is on set theory. I think it will work fine as an intro to the 60's Dolciani Algebra I and II. Thanks, Melissa. This is what I wanted to know. I'll definitely need a bridge between Singapore 6b and Dolciani, if this is what I end up using in the end. Jane in NC, I don't know if I'm part of the club just yet, although I would like to be. Of course, every Mom wants to use the very best there is, I just need to make sure I can teach the very best! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Hen Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 For those of you who use the Dolciani sequence, do you just check e-bay and amazon all the time? Are there other places to look? Thanks for any help!:) I check abebooks.com for Dolciani books. That's how I picked up my Pre-Algebra book. My 7th grader is working through that one right now---he's on Ch 8---. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in Central TX Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Oh, yes!! You got a great deal! I searched for used Dolciani books in our area with no luck, so I turned to the internet to make all of my purchases. On average, I spent about $40-$50 for each set: student text ($15) and teacher's edition ($25-$35). Here is a link I found on Amazon for a teacher's edition for Modern Algebra Book 1 by Dolciani: http://www.amazon.com/Modern-algebra-Structure-method-Teachers/dp/B0007DU4SI/ref=sr_1_40?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226496220&sr=8-40 When I was looking for these items I would add this book to my wishlist and check on it every couple of days. Once someone listed a book, and I verified it was a true teacher's edition, I would buy it (depending on price and condition, of course). My next step has been finding the solution keys to the books. During this process, I also stumbled across the Programmed Practice books and Progress Tests for the Dolciani series. There are many books and helps available for the Dolciani series; if you have a question, please feel free to ask. I feel that my set is complete, and we will start our Dolciani math journey next year. The only thing that I would like to add is the solution manual for Modern Geometry. However, if this book doesn't turn up, I think I can make it work with the help of this board and my DH. There are a few sellers who have these books priced unreasonably high on the internet. Even though they will come down on the price, I found that they really don't know what they are selling, so I would avoid them. PM me if you have a question about a purchase. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 I check abebooks.com for Dolciani books. That's how I picked up my Pre-Algebra book. My 7th grader is working through that one right now---he's on Ch 8---. Carole Thanks for the alternative site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Oh, yes!! You got a great deal! I searched for used Dolciani books in our area with no luck, so I turned to the internet to make all of my purchases. On average, I spent about $40-$50 for each set: student text ($15) and teacher's edition ($25-$35). Here is a link I found on Amazon for a teacher's edition for Modern Algebra Book 1 by Dolciani: http://www.amazon.com/Modern-algebra-Structure-method-Teachers/dp/B0007DU4SI/ref=sr_1_40?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226496220&sr=8-40 When I was looking for these items I would add this book to my wishlist and check on it every couple of days. Once someone listed a book, and I verified it was a true teacher's edition, I would buy it (depending on price and condition, of course). My next step has been finding the solution keys to the books. During this process, I also stumbled across the Programmed Practice books and Progress Tests for the Dolciani series. There are many books and helps available for the Dolciani series; if you have a question, please feel free to ask. I feel that my set is complete, and we will start our Dolciani math journey next year. The only thing that I would like to add is the solution manual for Modern Geometry. However, if this book doesn't turn up, I think I can make it work with the help of this board and my DH. There are a few sellers who have these books priced unreasonably high on the internet. Even though they will come down on the price, I found that they really don't know what they are selling, so I would avoid them. PM me if you have a question about a purchase. Good luck! Thanks so much, Beth! I really should go find a public school math teacher around here and ask them if they have any Dolciani books collecting dust . . . I noticed that my copy is a public school copy from years ago as it had the school name stamped in it. Now, to find the TMs! I appreciate all the info! Thanks for the approx. price range too. Now I'll know if a book is overpriced! As always, you're so helpful!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thanks so much, Beth! I really should go find a public school math teacher around here and ask them if they have any Dolciani books collecting dust . . . I noticed that my copy is a public school copy from years ago as it had the school name stamped in it. Now, to find the TMs! I appreciate all the info! Thanks for the approx. price range too. Now I'll know if a book is overpriced! As always, you're so helpful!:) RG, if all else fails you and I can take a field trips to Jane's and Beth's and they can tutor us on how to teach Dolciani. :auto: Road trip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoriM Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thanks so much, Beth! I really should go find a public school math teacher around here and ask them if they have any Dolciani books collecting dust . . . I noticed that my copy is a public school copy from years ago as it had the school name stamped in it. Now, to find the TMs! I appreciate all the info! Thanks for the approx. price range too. Now I'll know if a book is overpriced! As always, you're so helpful!:) I know NCSU had several copies of old Dolciani texts "gathering dust" in the Math Education library in the Math Ed department (as well as many other authors' books). If you have an "in" with a Math Ed professor, ask there. Or just call your nearest university and ask to speak with a math ed professor! Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 When I was looking for these items I would add this book to my wishlist and check on it every couple of days. Once someone listed a book, and I verified it was a true teacher's edition, I would buy it (depending on price and condition, of course). When you went to check, did you go to your wishlist? Did the wishlist have mention of copies that had come up for sale? I've never used this feature before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in Central TX Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 When you went to check, did you go to your wishlist? Did the wishlist have mention of copies that had come up for sale? I've never used this feature before. Hi Karin, The Amazon wishlist helps me to bookmark the books that I'm interested in buying. Sellers can always list the same book with a slightly different title, so you still have to search for new titles added, but sometimes a seller will just add a book for sale to an existing book description. Therefore, I utilize the wishlist to help me monitor existing books that I'm looking for on Amazon. Once I have my wishlist established, I go there 2 or 3 times a week. When you pull up the list, you can scan the selections for used book prices. Right now, the Modern Algebra book I linked before will show that none are available, but when a seller adds a book to that description, a used book price is also added. Once you've looked at your list a couple of times, it is obvious when a change is made to the existing entry because a used book price will show up. Unfortunately, the book descriptions on Amazon do not show previous history of the books offered for sale, sold, or removed. I was able to find the majority of my Dolciani books on Amazon using this system. Take care, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in Central TX Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 RG, if all else fails you and I can take a field trips to Jane's and Beth's and they can tutor us on how to teach Dolciani. :auto: Road trip! I don't think I'm qualified to tutor anyone to teach math, but we can all take a roadtrip to Jane's. I hear NC is beautiful this time of year. Now if you want to just talk about math in general and preview the Dolciani books I found, come on over; I'll have the tea and dessert ready. Take care, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi Karin, The Amazon wishlist helps me to bookmark the books that I'm interested in buying. Take care, Beth Thanks. I just wonder how many ways people spell Dolciani. I have three of the four books I want on my new wish list, but one didn't appear at all, so I'm not sure if I can add that. This will certainly help me since I no longer have to search to find the books to see if they're up for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 RG, if all else fails you and I can take a field trips to Jane's and Beth's and they can tutor us on how to teach Dolciani. :auto: Road trip! Road trip!!:auto: I've been needing an excuse, er, uh, reason to take one!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Road trip!!:auto: I've been needing an excuse, er, uh, reason to take one!:) I'd love to visit Jane in NC to learn more about how she teaches math. Heck, just to see the area ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane in NC Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I'd love to visit Jane in NC to learn more about how she teaches math. Heck, just to see the area ;). Just don't come in the summer. It's too hot! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moni Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 A good deal? Depends on what product was available, ability to access, timing, opportunity costs, and most of all, ............perception of value. ;) Glad you found them! :seeya: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Just don't come in the summer. It's too hot! Jane Oh, gosh, no (I dno't really say gosh, but for some reason I write it.) I'm not a fan of the heat, especially when it's humid. I'd melt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 http://www.alibris.com http://www.bookfinder.com are the ones that I use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 http://www.alibris.comhttp://www.bookfinder.com are the ones that I use. Thanks, Myrtle! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Thanks, Melissa. This is what I wanted to know. I'll definitely need a bridge between Singapore 6b and Dolciani, if this is what I end up using in the end. Jane in NC, I don't know if I'm part of the club just yet, although I would like to be. Of course, every Mom wants to use the very best there is, I just need to make sure I can teach the very best! :) Singapore 6 didn't result in as much facility in fractions, decimals, and factoring as I wanted, but the first few chapters of NEM emphasizes this. On the other hand, Our 60s algebra book teaches radicals and negatives from scratch. It also teaches the logic, set theory, and terms from scratch which are needed to understand the explanations, theorems, and proofs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Lynx Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I have a Dolciani Pre-Algebra (actually called Pre-Algebra) from 1970. The first unit is on set theory. I think it will work fine as an intro to the 60's Dolciani Algebra I and II. This is what we did, and it worked well. We wandered through the pre-algebra book shoring up what needed to be shored up, tackling any concepts Singapore hadn't taught, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 This is what we did, and it worked well. We wandered through the pre-algebra book shoring up what needed to be shored up, tackling any concepts Singapore hadn't taught, etc. I think this is what I'll do. And, I found this book for $8 including postage. Glad it worked out for you, Mama Lynx. Did you find a TM to go with the book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cherrypits Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Can either of these texts be used successfully independently without the Teacher's Guide or Solutions Guide? I'm not willing to pay the high prices for these guides. It seems to me that if there were enough examples to teach the concept and a student got a problem wrong, he could go back and study the example and wrestle with the problem until he arrives at the right answer. It seems that they would be forced to think rather than being able to look at the solution when stumped. Has anyone done this? Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaNY Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Singapore 6 didn't result in as much facility in fractions, decimals, and factoring as I wanted, but the first few chapters of NEM emphasizes this. On the other hand, Our 60s algebra book teaches radicals and negatives from scratch. It also teaches the logic, set theory, and terms from scratch which are needed to understand the explanations, theorems, and proofs. Hey, Myrtle! So nice to see you! :seeya: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennifersLost Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I need a book with an answer key for a ninth grader who is finishing up Jacobs algebra. Any recommendations? And can someone confirm this order of math subjects? 8th algebra 1 9th geometry 10th algebra 2/trig 11th pre-calculus 12th calculus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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