lvmom Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 We've used First Language Lessons for the past two years and we are now into year 3 (book 3 for my 3rd grader and book 4 for my 5th grader). Honestly, it's a real struggle. I generally like the program. I feel that it's solid. The trouble is, we fight with the back and forthness of it...My eldest loves how Saxon math 5/4 is pretty independent. Is there a comparable grammar program where the student can navigate it independently for the most part? I feel that my 3rd grader is not ready for book 3 which involves a lot of sentence diagramming. Isn't that more of a Logic stage skill? I remember practicing that in 6th grade (everyday) growing up. I've looked through Treasured Conversations but I don't like the use of full sentences for outlining. I might use the first section of it though for functional use of parts of speech. Any ideas on grammar would be very much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmstranger Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I believe CLE grammar is fairly independent. I haven't used it, but my 3rd grader just started doing their math and he loves the fact that he can do it on his own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hake Grammar is from the same company that publishes Saxon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hake Grammar works like Saxon as the PP pointed out. Your 3rd grader could use the 4th grade book, or as another option, you could run through Grammar Island or Town (MCT) to get a big picture view before proceeding to the 4th grade book next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduemeche Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Rod and Staff grammar would fit the bill as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbgrace Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 CLE LA is independent. The grammar is solid. It does include other things as well though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Rod and Staff English texts can be done very independently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALB Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 We like Rod and Staff a lot. It does have some diagramming in 3rd grade, but not an overwhelming amount. It starts super-simple: identify the subject and predicate and put a line between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insertcreativenamehere Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 CLE. Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lea_lpz Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Rod and Staff English texts can be done very independently. Having my twins this spring and might need to go more independent with both math & Lang. We do Rod & Staff Spelling and I am happy with it. Good to know their grammar is similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Has anyone used Saxon Grammar without the spelling and writing? We already have writing and spelling we like. I am looking for something to use next year after FLL4. So far I am seeing people recommend Analytical Grammar (or Jr. Analytical Grammar), Saxon Grammar (formerly Hake) and possibly Fix-It (although I think Fix-it does not have diagramming?) I would be doing it with a 4th and 5th grader together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeves Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 We just started CLE LA this year because I needed my 3rd and 4th graders to be more independent with this subject (after doing FLL for the first few levels). It is really working well and they sit and do it themselves mostly, with a little direction from me. It's comprehensive and has review built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful Isle Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I love BJU grammar after FLL4. Voyages in English has always looked so shiny and pretty..except for the price tag :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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