stormy weather Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Nevermind. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Go to Catholic Answers. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Under Pope Benedict there was a lot of talk about a possible reconciliation between SSPX and the Vatican. However, that didn't happen and I can't see it happening under Pope Francis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LLMom Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Feel free to pm me. I have a lot of info on traditional Catholics; just shoot me your questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Do you mean Sedevacantism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Crown Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Feel free to pm; it's not clear what your question is (or maybe I got here too late and you deleted specifics). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedmom4 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I know an SSPX family. I also know several Trad Catholics. I'm interested in your specific question! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegoat Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 There are different kinds of traditionalist Catholics. The SSPX are on the far end of that, though they probably stop short of being the most extreme. They have had some problems with what seems to be various sorts of racial bigotry, though it isn't a requirement or anything to adhere to their views. But there does be a tendency for them to be very focused on a particular cultural expression of Catholicism ( I tend to think of them as very Trent/Vat I focused), which then seems appealing to a the sort of person who wants to promote a particular kind of cultural dominance. They have had a few prominent members of that type who have created a lot of controversy. There has been a pretty strong tendency for SSPX adherents to go on to embrace sedavacatism. As for the relationship to the Catholic Church - their priests are real priests, so in Catholic terms their masses are considered valid but illicit. But something many people who attend SSPX chapels because they prefer the Latin mass don't realize is that if a Catholic goes to confession with an SSPX priest, it is actually considered invalid. The Catholic Church has in the past hoped to bring them back into a good relationship, but I think that was becoming unlikely even under Benedict, who was sympathetic to their liturgical views. As it stands now, it seems like they are becoming more and more established as an independent group - it will be interesting to see if that ends up with them outright embracing a sedevacantist perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy weather Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Do you mean Sedevacantism? No definitely SSPX and another particular group that is recommended on the SSPX website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abcmommy Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Trad Catholics are to catholicism what the Duggars and their ilk are to protestantism. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Trad Catholics are to catholicism what the Duggars and their ilk are to protestantism. Er. No. I realize that there are many definitions of "Trad Catholic," but around here that term is simply somebody who adheres to things that were adhered to prior to vatican II (but are still recognized as valid in vatican II; nothing they do is "out of communion" with the church, regardless); these are people who often attend the Latin Mass, still cover in church, no meat on fridays (year 'round), etc. Traditional catholics aren't extremists any more than any other fully practicing catholic who is in communion with the church. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Crown Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Edited: Never mind. Sure, we're just like the Duggars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcmommy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 How can one be in communion with Rome while refusing to accept Vatican II? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 How can one be in communion with Rome while refusing to accept Vatican II? A sedevacantist isn't in communion with the church... but a traditional catholic isn't necessarily a sedevacantist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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