ktgrok Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The common cup is a chalice made from silver, which is antibacterial/antiviral and kills germs. The wine has to be a certain strength, there is a rule, and I forget what the exact percentage is but it is strong, so that it kills germs as well. But you can always dip if you want. The fact of the matter is you are way more likely to contract a cold or other disease from shaking hands during the peace or after church than you are to get sick from drinking from the chalice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rain Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just your local Jew dropping to tell you I went to the site on the link -- here's a hint, buy your matzo at Passover time with the rest of the Jews, you'll save a ton of cash! ;) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The common cup is a chalice made from silver, which is antibacterial/antiviral and kills germs. The wine has to be a certain strength, there is a rule, and I forget what the exact percentage is but it is strong, so that it kills germs as well. But you can always dip if you want. The fact of the matter is you are way more likely to contract a cold or other disease from shaking hands during the peace or after church than you are to get sick from drinking from the chalice. How do you know? I think that putting your mouth on something that 50 other people have put their mouth on is a good way to get strep. Ick. Might as well lick shopping carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 How do you know? I think that putting your mouth on something that 50 other people have put their mouth on is a good way to get strep. Ick. Might as well lick shopping carts. People that are sick are generally recommended to refrain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 How do you know? I think that putting your mouth on something that 50 other people have put their mouth on is a good way to get strep. Ick. Might as well lick shopping carts. Alcohol is the active ingredient in hand sanitizer, it is just like the cup being drenched in hand sanitizer and you swigging hand sanitizer. Germs can't live in that. There have been studies that show that people that drink from the cup do not get sick any more often than those that do not participate at all. They compared people that attend and drink from the common cup, those that don't drink but attend, and those that don't attend church at all. Immunologists have studied this, as it was a big deal during the initial scare of HIV, and also during a few of the flu epidemics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 People that are sick are generally recommended to refrain. I know, but so many times you don't know your sick until hours later. You are fine when you wake up, but by 2:00 you are really ill with a virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 How do you know? I think that putting your mouth on something that 50 other people have put their mouth on is a good way to get strep. Ick. Might as well lick shopping carts. Only if the shopping cart is made of a metal that is germ resistant and the cart is bathed in alcohol first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Alcohol is the active ingredient in hand sanitizer, it is just like the cup being drenched in hand sanitizer and you swigging hand sanitizer. Germs can't live in that. There have been studies that show that people that drink from the cup do not get sick any more often than those that do not participate at all. They compared people that attend and drink from the common cup, those that don't drink but attend, and those that don't attend church at all. Immunologists have studied this, as it was a big deal during the initial scare of HIV, and also during a few of the flu epidemics. Hmmmm.... Still not for me. No way, no how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sheldon, on top of all the scientific reasons AND care of the parishioners, there is the aspect of Faith ;) The RC and EO view the Eucharist very differently than most Protestants...this plays a role also on how we fear or don't fear the "ickiness" of sharing a common cup ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sheldon, on top of all the scientific reasons AND care of the parishioners, there is the aspect of Faith ;) The RC and EO view the Eucharist very differently than most Protestants...this plays a role also on how we fear or don't fear the "ickiness" of sharing a common cup ;) Yep. Been a liturgical Christian my whole life; the idea of little "communion cups" is utterly, bone-deep foreign to me. Not for me, no way.:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Alcohol is the active ingredient in hand sanitizer, it is just like the cup being drenched in hand sanitizer and you swigging hand sanitizer. Germs can't live in that. There have been studies that show that people that drink from the cup do not get sick any more often than those that do not participate at all. They compared people that attend and drink from the common cup, those that don't drink but attend, and those that don't attend church at all. Immunologists have studied this, as it was a big deal during the initial scare of HIV, and also during a few of the flu epidemics. If I remember correctly from graduate school, to kill viruses, the level of alcohol must be above 50%. Everclear is the grain alcohol of choice if rubbing alcohol is not available. I believe the highest wine goes is 14%. Not enough to kill bugs unless it is gnats that fall in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sheldon, on top of all the scientific reasons AND care of the parishioners, there is the aspect of Faith ;) The RC and EO view the Eucharist very differently than most Protestants...this plays a role also on how we fear or don't fear the "ickiness" of sharing a common cup ;) I know. I will just try not to think about it :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaffodilDreams Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just give me the chalice, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sheldon, on top of all the scientific reasons AND care of the parishioners, there is the aspect of Faith ;) The RC and EO view the Eucharist very differently than most Protestants...this plays a role also on how we fear or don't fear the "ickiness" of sharing a common cup ;) Very true. I can't imagine God getting me sick that way. Not ever. Maybe that is why the studies show people don't get sick from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaichiki Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 "This Blood's For You." It sure is! :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaichiki Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Other Priest tells dh, "By the way, tho' we normally use grape juice for Communion, we just use water for weddings, so that any spills won't stain the Bride's dress."Dh replies, "I'm good, but I'm not THAT good!" :lol::lol: (get it? He can't turn water into wine...) Oh that's great! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simka2 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 If I remember correctly from graduate school, to kill viruses, the level of alcohol must be above 50%. Everclear is the grain alcohol of choice if rubbing alcohol is not available. I believe the highest wine goes is 14%. Not enough to kill bugs unless it is gnats that fall in. I love microbiology so this was a real sticking point for me. It wasn't until I actually received my first eucharist that it dawned on me that the gold of the spoon is also an antibacterial/antiviral. I still planning on sitting towards the front so I am one of the first to go. My faith has a lot of room to grow! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I actually double checked, and there are multiple studies on this going back to the 1920's, and the common cup has not been shown to spread disease. God, silver, wine, the fact that most diseases are spread from nasal secretions not saliva, who knows. But whatever it is, it seems to be perfectly safe. Now don't get me started on the play area at the science museum, we get sick every time we visit there! But not from church, as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaichiki Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Might as well lick shopping carts. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 These make me picture communion being tossed out to the crowd like the peanut vendor at the ballpark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 These make me picture communion being tossed out to the crowd like the peanut vendor at the ballpark! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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