Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 ETA: Ok...I'm confused. What state are we actually talking about? I believe the school, err, the, place, is in Florida. So, hypothetically speaking, if I enroll a student in a private school, would that student no longer be eligible to enroll in the virtual charter for free? Is that why this place is so curiously not wanting to call itself a school? Or are there other rules and regulations that a Florida private school would have to obey that this organization is trying to avoid? I'm just curious why they are so adamant against calling themselves a school, or calling the employees teachers. Or are they just unschoolers at heart, and dead set against using the word "school"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I guess I'm really having two reactions... One, dislike of this as a business model (I'm generally suspicious of for profit education), dislike of it being called "homeschooling," and a knowledge that I would never, in a million years, be interested in doing something like this with my kids, even if I won the lottery. Two, acknowledgement that options are positive in general, if they aren't the options I would personally choose. So assuming that people get into this eyes open, it's probably okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I believe the school, err, the, place, is in Florida. So, hypothetically speaking, if I enroll a student in a private school, would that student no longer be eligible to enroll in the virtual charter for free? Is that why this place is so curiously not wanting to call itself a school? Or are there other rules and regulations that a Florida private school would have to obey that this organization is trying to avoid? I'm just curious why they are so adamant against calling themselves a school, or calling the employees teachers. Or are they just unschoolers at heart, and dead set against using the word "school"? See how confusing it is? Someone needs to check the legal status of the children enrolled. I'm sure it isn't illegal for the business owners to do what they're doing, but people need to know where those children fit into the compulsory education laws of FL. In any case, there is NOTHING homeschool about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 So they're gathering registered homeschoolers under their "we're not a school" umbrella and then offering them supervision, social opportunities, trips, and organic food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 It sounds to me like they're offering for homeschoolers and virtual schoolers to come to their facility during the day to be around other kids and have parent replacements/supervision. That's not school and they can't call themselves a school or their employees teachers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 It's Florida, and all the students in this "program" are registered homeschoolers, with these people providing "coaching" and social stuff, games, trip, etc. It sounds like a club/hangout for homeschoolers. The price tag won't seems high here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 So they're gathering registered homeschoolers under their "we're not a school" umbrella and then offering them supervision, social opportunities, trips, and organic food? From the web site, it's a bit more than that. They send home quarterly report cards, and the kids are taught both by the online instructors and by the onsite Coaches. "Graduating seniors must complete a rigorous individual senior project demonstrating their cumulative curriculum skills, citizenship concerns, resourcefulness and creativity" I wonder if they issue a diploma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 But the girls would have to get dressed. That would never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momacacia Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 What does it cost to just have them come to my house and make organic lunches? I might be in for that. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrale Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 This is by any definition *NOT* homeschooling. ::bangs head on keyboard:: If anything, it's a private school--parents pay big bucks for it, apparently (I cannot open the site so I cannot see for myself), so it isn't a public school. Kudos to the people who devised the program, because I'm sure there's a market for it, but I'd really like to smack them for calling it "homeschool." But I think that the wording is the hook. To people used to a public or private school system that are not familiar with homeschool this IS what they consider homeschooling and it this what they are looking for. Yes... K12 may not be homeschooling either but it is school at home and that fine distinction doesn't matter to those outside the culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 But I think that the wording is the hook. To people used to a public or private school system that are not familiar with homeschool this IS what they consider homeschooling and it this what they are looking for. Yes... K12 may not be homeschooling either but it is school at home and that fine distinction doesn't matter to those outside the culture. Oh, I know it's the hook. And it's deceitful. And it has nothing to do with K12. Remember that K12 is just a publisher, like ABeka or BJUP or R&S. People do not enroll their dc in K12. They enroll their children in a public school (it's a charter school in most states, but apparently not all). You can homeschool according to the homeschool laws (or whatever it is in your state; it's a court case and private school statutes in California) and use K12, or you can enroll your children in a public school that uses and provides K12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrale Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Oh, I know it's the hook. And it's deceitful. And it has nothing to do with K12. Remember that K12 is just a publisher, like ABeka or BJUP or R&S. People do not enroll their dc in K12. They enroll their children in a public school (it's a charter school in most states, but apparently not all). You can homeschool according to the homeschool laws (or whatever it is in your state; it's a court case and private school statutes in California) and use K12, or you can enroll your children in a public school that uses and provides K12. I said k12 because that is what people call the OHVA locally. Here children that do it are actively involved in the homeschooling community. They are not exempt. They may know the distinction (but I am sure many don't) but to an outsider they call themselves homeschoolers for ease. Talking to a other homeschooling families at a meeting everyone just calls it K12. I thought that k12 was pretty universally understood on the forums as a VA, at least it mostly is in posts I read unless someone specifies that the are using the curriculum independently, so I used it as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I said k12 because that is what people call the OHVA locally. Here children that do it are actively involved in the homeschooling community. They are not exempt. They may know the distinction (but I am sure many don't) but to an outsider they call themselves homeschoolers for ease. Talking to a other homeschooling families at a meeting everyone just calls it K12. I thought that k12 was pretty universally understood on the forums as a VA, at least it mostly is in posts I read unless someone specifies that the are using the curriculum independently, so I used it as an example. I know people say that, but it is important to know the difference, which not all people do, and to use the correct terminology when we talk about it. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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