Walking-Iris Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 We went to a children's museum today that had a Magic Tree House exhibit. One of the exhibits was a little one room schoolhouse and we dressed up in period clothes and my kids sat on little benches and I rang a bell and we played at school on little chalk slates. The exhibit had these McGuffy readers available for the kids to look at and it was the 1st time I have ever seen one in person. We really had fun using them and playing at school just like Jack and Annie. Now I think these books would be fun to own (for school and just because I'm a bit of a book collector and they're historical documents in and of themselves, right?). I already know I want to focus on US History next year and read the Little House series, so I'm thinking these books would be fun to use. What exactly is the difference between the Mott Media set and these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I don't know about the version differences, but I have heard on here that the updated version made the language a bit more modern and took out some references to "negroes" or other ickies. I had the 3rd eclectic reader and I have no idea what I did with it. My oldest used it until 1st-2nd grade and then I lost track of it. we did it for read aloud practice. They're actually quite good and I was considering getting a few more for my 8 yo and then a 2nd or 3rd eclectic reader (not McGuffey-the one they use in the Wilder books) because my kids are interested in them from hearing about them in the books. If you google this board and McGuffey, there are some really good threads on how to use them. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmia Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I bought the cheaper set (published by John Wiley and Son) available on Amazon. They are considerably less expensive than the Mott set. I don't love the paper they are printed on. However, I can't tell if the more expensive set would be different. The Wiley ones are Revised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmia Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Amazon has the Mott Media versions for $72.61 right now. When I was buying they were $99. The Amazon review says that the Mott version has the Christian content included. I assume some was edited out in the revised version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmia Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Look! here is our WTM Kalamanak's review from Amazon: " Look! There is a Well-Trained-Minder's review on Amazon: 13 of 22 people found the following review helpful 2.0 out of 5 stars Later (Wiley and Son's version) preferred, December 7, 2007 By kalanamak (USA) - See all my reviews This review is from: McGuffey Series (McGuffeys Eclectic Readers Series) (Hardcover) I have a boxed set of the Mott Media version and the Wiley and Sons version. The Mott reprint is from th 1830's and it has really rough graphics compared to the version from the 1870's or so. The content in more doomsday as well. Still in the 19th century style, the Wiley reprint is not dreary and dark, not only in print, but in content. I showed the two sets to my K son and he said the Wiley was "grandpa's" (indeed his GF and GM used it in school!). Shown the Mott Media, he said "great-great-GREAT Grandpa" and turned back to the Wiley reprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemama2 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 We use the ones by Wiley. I'm not sure what the difference is, b/c I bought the Wiley ones before I had heard of the Mott ones (although I think the Mott ones are suppose to have more christian content.) The Wiley ones have many stories that teach good character (hard work, honesty etc.). I have my boys read out of them 2 or 3 times per week to work on their oral reading. I think they are fairly challenging. The 5th book especially has ramped up quite a bit this year in terms of vocab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 The newer Eclectic version is phonics based. The older Mott Media version uses the sight word method. There are quality audio files available at CBD, for the Eclectic version, that aid the student in exemplary reading aloud skills that some of us are not able to teach, as we never learned those skills ourselves. Levels 5 and 6 contain vocabulary words some of us teachers do not know how to pronounce. There are pronunciation charts for each word, but having the audios is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking-Iris Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks everyone. I guess I'll look into the Wiley ones a bit more. They just look cool and vintage-y and I like that. If I get them we'll read them, but honestly I'm just thinking out loud as a book collector more than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRTGSw2K Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Are these the Wiley ones? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471294284/ref=gno_cart_title_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen. Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 We use the Wiley ones. My 7yo first grader and my 9yo third grader really enjoy reading them. The lessons are short and the slate work is easy to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm4him Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 We love our McGuffey's here too. I have up through the Second Reader in the Mott version and the whole set of the newer version. I have not closely compared the content but I do like the phonics focus that the newer ones have and I have still found great content in the newer ones. They are excellent for teaching careful reading and oral expression. My kids read one lesson to me a day and we use the cursive portions for copywork and dictation (though there aren't many of those). On the days we use it for copywork and/or dictation they do not do their regular copywork. If they make more than one mistake within the lesson or section of a lesson (they number the sections at some point) they have to go back and read that section again. I write out the words at the beginning of the lesson on a whiteboard and I make sure they can read those first before we begin. I also read the selection aloud first so they can hear what it should sound like with proper expression and then they read it to me. It works so well, is so easy and quick, and I love the content and how it makes us feel connected to American education and families from long ago. They are awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 The newer Eclectic version is phonics based. The older Mott Media version uses the sight word method. This. I use the 1879 version with many of my remedial students, and suggest it for parents to build up vocabulary and phonics for most of my students. You can see the 1879 version online for free at Gutenburg, you need the PDF to get the whole flavor, the diacritical markings are very helpful and also the PDF has pictures. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=mcguffey+reader Links to them all PDF of the 4th reader, the first level for which there are reading comprehension questions, I think. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14880/14880-pdf.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPlaceLikeHome Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 The newer Eclectic version is phonics based. The older Mott Media version uses the sight word method. There are quality audio files available at CBD, for the Eclectic version, that aid the student in exemplary reading aloud skills that some of us are not able to teach, as we never learned those skills ourselves. Levels 5 and 6 contain vocabulary words some of us teachers do not know how to pronounce. There are pronunciation charts for each word, but having the audios is nice. Any links for audio files and pronunciation charts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRTGSw2K Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Are these the Wiley ones? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471294284/ref=gno_cart_title_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaney Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I have them all on the Robinson disc that I print from. I think I would like the actual books though because the pics don't come out very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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