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Okay, I've heard from my Profs that an in person degree (for my field) is more highly regarded and marketable, and the only type of Ph. D. honored in government positions, agency positions, etc.

 

The are convenient, though.

 

http://www.waldenu.edu/Degree-Programs/Doctorate/Ph.D.-in-Counselor-Education-and-Supervision.htm

 

I could handle the course work and residencies needed.

 

http://www.capella.edu/schools_programs/degrees/phd.aspx

 

A Psy D? Ph. D. Social Work?

 

I have a relative by marriage that works here:

 

http://www.brite.edu/default.asp

http://www.brite.edu/pdf/britebulletin.pdf#page=57

 

I can’t quite glean the nature of the structure of this program, although I *think* a 1 year residency is needed? I’m worried, too, that this Ph. D. will pigeon hole me and box me in if I seek secular professional roles. OTOH, I think that the church needs progressive, contemporary female professionals in the areas of marriage and family.

 

Sam Houston State (the most in person convienient)

 

Ph. D. in Clinical Pyschology

http://www.shsu.edu/gradcat/cpsy_phd.html

I am worried about the quantitative aspect of this one; it is not my strong suit.

 

Another one at Sam Houston:

 

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I do not wish to go into (or stay in, as the case may be) high school or lower settings. Ideally, at this point, I’d like to have a full time clinical role, a part time private practice and work as an adjunct professor. This Ph. D. would assist with that.

 

There is U of H:

 

http://www.shsu.edu/gradcat/cned_phd.html

It seems that a significant amount of my Masters (Dec 2011) will be eliminated by this option. "They" would likely discount a lot of my Masters as it did not come from them and in in Counseling, not psych.

 

Our Lady of the Lake offers a Psy D:

 

http://www.ollusa.edu/s/1190/ollu.aspx?sid=1190&gid=1&pgid=1748

San Antonio is about 2 hours from here. I could do weekends. Although it doesn’t seem that a Ph. D. is available for weekends.

 

Prairie View A & M has a great option of a Ph. D. in adolescent psychology. My DH reports it does not have a good reputation academically and that is is known as the “all black school.†Advertising on the website seems to support a predominance of AA students.

 

http://www.pvamu.edu/pages/5152.asp

The program looks very interesting. It’s an hour away.

 

I have been told that the compensation difference between an LPC/LMFT and a Ph. D. may not justify the Ph. D. :glare: I still feel I am supposed to get my Ph. D.

 

As far as admission requirements, I exceed all the listed GPA requirements, the GRE scores, have impeccable references, excellent writing samples, I interview well, and have a good resume. The only trouble I can envision as far as getting in are for the programs wanting a psychology background. Other than that, I am, let's just say, very competitive for a Ph. D. program.

 

Thoughts?

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No advice for you, but I just finished my PhD last May. It's sooo worth it in the end, especially to hear Dr. ________. Best wishes!

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Not sure if this will help or not, but my father, sister, and bil are all at walden. Sis just got her masters. She's doing a masters/phd combination. Dad and bil are working on phd. Sis and bil are in psych or teaching, I forget. Dad is public health. My dad is leaving walden this semester. What he's working on he's just not finding any information on and walden isn't/can't help. He says they're kind of hands off. He's looking to transfer to another program, nova college I think.

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Random thoughts before I fall into bed.:D

 

I agree with your dh's assessment of the reputation of Prairie View A and M. I would not choose it unless there were no other options.

 

A Ph.D in social work is most valuable if you want to go into academia and stay there. It is a research degree. You can still practice as a therapist, obviously, but most folks who get a Ph.D in social work are doing so to enter academia, which leaves you with an issue of potentially needing to move in order to find a job. UT has a Ph.D program in social work, I believe, as does UTA. I looked at the one at UTA a few years back and decided that I didn't want to take any more statistics.:tongue_smilie:

 

I also looked at a Psy.D at one point. It is a non-thesis degree, if I recall correctly. I would get a Ph.D in clinical psychology, I think, if I had any more schooling years in me. It is the most marketable, IMO. With that degree, you can do therapy, testing, teach at the college level, publish, etc. I have a good friend who is a clinical psychologist who came and spoke at my class last week on psychometric testing. That is the strength of the psychology field - testing.

 

Okay, that is all for now. This is very exciting, Joanne, and I shall live vicariously through you because I cannot see myself ever getting a Ph.D.

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Random thoughts before I fall into bed.:D

 

I agree with your dh's assessment of the reputation of Prairie View A and M. I would not choose it unless there were no other options.

 

A Ph.D in social work is most valuable if you want to go into academia and stay there. It is a research degree. You can still practice as a therapist, obviously, but most folks who get a Ph.D in social work are doing so to enter academia, which leaves you with an issue of potentially needing to move in order to find a job. UT has a Ph.D program in social work, I believe, as does UTA. I looked at the one at UTA a few years back and decided that I didn't want to take any more statistics.:tongue_smilie:

 

I also looked at a Psy.D at one point. It is a non-thesis degree, if I recall correctly. I would get a Ph.D in clinical psychology, I think, if I had any more schooling years in me. It is the most marketable, IMO. With that degree, you can do therapy, testing, teach at the college level, publish, etc. I have a good friend who is a clinical psychologist who came and spoke at my class last week on psychometric testing. That is the strength of the psychology field - testing.

 

Okay, that is all for now. This is very exciting, Joanne, and I shall live vicariously through you because I cannot see myself ever getting a Ph.D.

 

 

Thank you! I was hoping you'd come along and offer your perspective.

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Prairie View A & M has a great option of a Ph. D. in adolescent psychology. My DH reports it does not have a good reputation academically and that is is known as the “all black school.†Advertising on the website seems to support a predominance of AA students.

 

http://www.pvamu.edu/pages/5152.asp

The program looks very interesting. It’s an hour away.

 

 

 

Yes, PVA&M is a traditionally black school. I don't understand why it would be brought up in a discussion about academics, though.:confused:

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I'd stay away from anything online. If you are hoping for an academic job, you need an academic PhD. In this world, a PhD is worth more than an EdD or PsyD or other professional type doctorate. I

 

Also, if you're going to do an academic PhD, you should not pay for it. They should pay you (or at least provide you with some kind of funding opportunity like RA or TAships).

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I vote for an in-person, most definitely. If I were you, I would choose the Sam Houston State Ph. D. in Clinical Psychology. I know you are concerned about the quantitative, but you can do it, and this would be the most valuable, flexible degree for you to embark upon your career. It will give you both secular and non-secular cred. It is also the most convenient to you physically, which means less expense overall.

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My PhD is in a totally different field, but I chose the program based on a faculty advisor. Before I applied anywhere, I read the research focus of the faculty members. When I found one that I wanted to work for, I contacted that individual and started a dialogue. I think that brought me more money in fellowships. It also helped me jump right into research when I started school as opposed to looking around for an advisor first.

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Thank you! I was hoping you'd come along and offer your perspective.

 

Can't miss the vicarious experience this provides! :D

 

One of my former LPC supervisees got a master's degree at Brite Divinity at TCU. I'm wondering if that is a related program to the one you mention. I agree that a secular degree is more marketable unless one is planning to go solely into ministry of some sort. (My supervisee is Jewish and had an interest in theology, thus the additional master's degree. She already had the counseling degree and was an LPC-I when she started.)

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I'd pick SHSU because I got my BA there. It's a very friendly campus and even though the enrollment is around 15-16K it still has a very down home feel. I have a couple of friends that have their Masters in Counseling from Sam but both are in the teaching field(elementary teachers). If you do decide to go the SHSU route I could give you info about the university and Huntsville and maybe even some of the profs.

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Okay, I've heard from my Profs that an in person degree (for my field) is more highly regarded and marketable, and the only type of Ph. D. honored in government positions, agency positions, etc.

 

I could handle the course work and residencies needed.

 

http://www.capella.edu/schools_programs/degrees/phd.aspx

 

A Psy D? Ph. D. Social Work?....

 

 

Thoughts?

 

My husband attends Capella (masters program). His coursework is on par with reputable masters level programs. His company pays 100% there, as the program is reputable in his industry. Interestingly, they would not pay for another employee to go to Penn State, for a similar program, as they felt Capella provides a significantly better program (again, in their field, I'm not making sweeping comparisons of the schools). So now his co-worker attends Capella too.

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