We have found no colleges that do not accept Latin. This includes Ivys, state schools, private, and private Christian. It's offered in our public high schools as well. Edited to add that many schools expect a minimum of 3 years of foreign language or 2 years each of 2 different ones. If you put a foreign language from middle school on the transcript, schools will expect to see continued studies in that same language.

for LA I am really liking CLE with my youngest right now. It doesn't include literature though. I like what I've seen of English Lessons through Literature. Cottage Press is another that is based in literature.

Have you ever read SOTW 4? I'm trying to see if the Nutgrass text would be a step up in challenge or about the same. I'm talking the 4th volume, not the earlier ones which are a lot easier IMHO than SOTW4. It's hard to tell from the samples.

I'm wondering if anyone used it this year. It looks like it was only available to some people so I might not have any luck. I'm mostly curious about the level of the text. What age would you say the text could be read and understood independently?

I'm in a similar situation. I love the samples of the book but I can't figure out how easy it is to use or if there are doable labs etc.

I was going to suggest Pharmacy as well but another option might be physical therapy. I know a lot of athletes appreciate that kind of field.

OhElizabeth! I haven't talked to you in ages. DD is a strange one to figure out. She actually can hold the information in her head. But then it doesn't become natural for her to put that information out in order unless it was put in her head in order. Her narrations, both written and verbal, are excellent and organized. We started WWS earlier this year and she did well with it for a while and then hit a block so we stopped and just did more narrations. We are also using SOTW 4 and she's doing the outlines from the activity book. She's been doing very well with those so I thought it was time to go back to something more. I bought Write with the Best and she's enjoying those exercises so that's something. Of course after I vented here I went ahead and tried WWS again where we left off and she did great. Go figure. She's like that. Just when I think I'm going to run away from home out of frustration, something clicks with her. I'm sure we'll hit another wall at some point. That's how it works with her. 2 steps forward, one step back. I appreciate all of this advice. It will come in handy. Thanks to those who recommended Inspiration and other formatting ideas. I'm going to try those as well.

I'm interested please

No - 1 English credit consists of Literature and Composition plus whatever grammar instruction is still needed

I would assume all states are different but we are considering this and I know what our state would require. Each year when we send in our letter of intent, the letter says something to the effect of 'We plan to study at or above grade level for history, math....' etc. and we declare a grade. If I want to have my daughter repeat a middle school grade I would just declare the same grade two years in a row. She meets the age requirement for both her current grade and the grade beneath her. If the grade and age get too out of whack I'm sure they would contact us for an explanation, if they noticed. I know people who have been in our situation with no issue but I haven't known anyone who tried to declare their child to be a grade significantly below what would be expected for their age so can't be fully sure how that would work.

We found three different kinds of "program acceptance". Some will accept a high school student directly into a specific program based on their tests/GPA etc. Some accept the student to the school and then after the student successfully completes certain courses with certain minimum grades they are admitted to the degree program. And some we ran into require the admitted student to meet certain course/grade requirements AND have a maximum number of students they can accept. We ran into this when looking for a nursing program for my oldest. One school we talked to said that after 2 years you apply to the nursing major and need X GPA. But they also said they only have so much space so they regularly have to turn away kids who have met all the requirements and either have to find another school or another major. Uh - no thanks LOL. We asked this kind of question to each school that she looked at and they had no problem answering nor did they think it was weird.

DD was accepted to Marymount University today. She has applied to an undergraduate/graduate combination program which has a separate acceptance from the admission to the University. We are still waiting for that decision. It won't come for a few more weeks.

Here's a link to the WTM academy class. It says 7 - 9th grade http://www.wtmacademy.com/courses/electives/geography-middle-school/

I agree with those recommending online classes vs Challenge. It's been several years since we tried Challenge but we found it to be lacking in just about everything and we had to supplement all subjects (to be fair we didn't do math with CC).

I noticed that the Well-Trained Mind Academy is going to have a Geography course for late middle school/early high school next year.

We did this as well. My 16 year old is graduating a year early from high school and has 30 college credits that will all transfer to meet required courses, not just 30 credits that only check a few things off the list. We approached the colleges she was most interested in early and got their general ed requirements and early majors requirements/pre-requisites and used those lists to choose what to take. No need for the AA.

Very good point about the differences between prof schools and grad schools. That could definitely come into play with the differences in acceptances. I certainly don't want to imply that kids can't do well going to a Christian college. I went to one myself as does my oldest daughter. Both schools were regionally accredited, though. I just encourage the OP to know the pros and cons and focus a bit more on what he wants to study and the career he is hoping for than the political ideas of the institution. For many kids the right school doesn't end up looking anything like what they thought.

Since most of my experience has been with people wanting to go to grad school, I definitely am not as knowledgeable about potential differences when applying to law school or med school. It sounds like it might have different concerns. I guess for me it's about not shutting doors unnecessarily. Assuming it's true that law schools, for example, care less about the accreditation, I'm not sure that means it never comes into play. Getting into schools on all levels is becoming more and more competitive, not less. So what happens when there are a huge stack of equally qualified students. Something has to be the tipping point. If the difference between two students is that one went to an accredited school and one went unaccredited... will that be what makes the decision? Do they look for kids from Patrick Henry, just to pick one, to have higher grades and LSATs than other kids they admit? Not really something they would come out and say but could be the case. Maybe not, but why take the risk without a good reason. And let's not forget that lots of kids change their major. So if you go into school thinking that it's fine because you are going to law school and they won't care about the accreditation, what happens when you change your mind and now want to study something that requires grad school? I guess I just always lean toward keeping as many doors open as possible, especially when dealing with 16/17 years old. Certainly a lot of people go to colleges that are not regionally accredited and do very well. I would just encourage the OP to weigh his apparent need to study somewhere that is fully in like mind with him and potential issues down the road with the schools he is looking at. He hasn't mentioned a concern about cost of school or ability to get accepted so I am assuming based on his comments that the worldview/mindset of the school itself is the primary deciding factor.

What is the reason for not using the Internet?

This needs to be reiterated again and again. This is absolutely critical, especially the bolded part. Lots of schools called themselves accredited. They might even by accredited by an organization. But unless they are accredited by a widely-recognized organization it doesn't mean squat. Typically this kind of widely-recognized organization comes in the form of 'regional accreditation'. There are seven (I think it's 7 - maybe 6) organizations responsibly for regional accreditation of colleges. They are divided primarily geographically. You can research the regional accreditation for details on the names of these organizations and which states each one is responsible for. This is the kind of accreditation you want to find to assure general acceptance of your degree both for employment and future educational endeavors. I know it seems odd but regional accreditation is high accreditation than national accreditation so don't let that confuse you.

To get you going doing something without much expense, have you looked at Quark Chronicles? They are excellent living books with a lot of great information. I think they also sell notebooks that include information on expanding them and additional readings but I haven't seen those. It might not be as much science as you'd like ultimately but it would get you off the 'science bench'.

Thanks - my current college student's scholarships cover tuition but not the other stuff. My current senior's scholarship offers are creeping toward that kind of overage. (yippee ... for the most part LOL) so this is good to know.

A question about scholarship becoming income... Does scholarship that is over tuition but under room and board still taxable or is the scholarship only considered overage if it exceeds all school related expenses? Also, on the dual enrollment stuff, we pay for dual enrollment in my state but I was under the impression that it was not deductible because it's technically high school, just like I wouldn't be able to deduct private school tuition. Is that true?

Well it seems to me that you know what you want and don't really have any concerns. So what help would you like from us?

I meant the one in TN. I don't know about the one in MN. At least Hampden-Sydney is regionally accredited. Neither Crown or NSA are.