That sounds difficult. I know Arkansas has a new rule in place that hotels cannot accept people from out of state, unless they are medical personnel. So she shouldn’t plan on staying overnight in Arkansas. I’m not sure about Tenn though.

I think is because there is just no way to know yet. Unfortunately we don't have the time right now to do a good double blind study to find the truth. It might work, it might now, it might work sometimes. I fully understand this and feel the same way.

VA is under a shelter in place, enforceable by a $1000 fine. Driving around is fine. It’s the gathering in groups that isn’t allowed. I’ve been using driving around as an escape for about a week. We also have been going to hiking trails and hanging out by the river, just our family alone, with no problems. We can still go get take out or drinks from sonic or coffee at Starbucks. I think it’s all semantics at this point.

The refrigerator trucks I've seen, the temporary morgues. And those made perfect sense to me, morgues aren't meant to deal with thousands dying a day, they have to go somewhere. They've been used in other disasters too, they aren't a new thing. I just wasn't thinking about a scenario where even those weren't enough. It looks like Cuomo is denying the whole idea, but it was tweeted out by a city council person as a potential worse case scenario option, I guess in case cemeteries can't keep up? It was just surprising.

Has this been posted yet? https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/06/us/new-york-park-burial-morgue-capacity/index.html Apparently NY is considering temporarily burying bodies in city parks. It looks like they've done it before, too. I'm sure it's a last resort, but it's so crazy to even think about.

Medium should also not count as news. It’s not a news organization, anyone can publish a piece on Medium. It’s meant to be about ideas. So it’s kind of like the opinion page on The NY Times, but with less oversight. They do have a team that will take down stuff that is just wrong, eventually. That is probably why this article got removed. ETA: Anyone can share an article, meme, Facebook post etc., but that isn’t the same as the media. The media has nothing to do with people who write blog posts.

That doesn't seem like a news site. That is definitely a blog. It looks like it was posted on Medium too, but it looks like they took it down. As far as I can tell this is the only article on the blog at all. The Facebook and twitter links go to generic square space sites and there is no About page or any other posts that I can access.

This might explain why google isn’t helping much. Something about the algorithm trying to learn your preferences. So if google doesn’t think you want a HuffPo piece, for example, google won’t turn it up in your results. I only barely understand it myself, so I can’t explain better. But one persons google search is not the same as another persons. https://whatsnewinpublishing.com/facebook-and-google-the-echo-chamber-effect

I don’t know where you are looking, but yes, I think you are. I’m seeing everyone of those things, plus Elon Musk donating more respirators. Most of it is in my Facebook feed bc I’ve followed The NY Times, Washington Post, NPR, and several other pages that share random relevant stuff from the economist or the New Yorker, LA times and places like that. I also follow a bunch of podcasts, npr, vox, planet money, etc. . Literally every time I hear someone say they aren’t seeing a thing reported I’ve seen it repeatedly. Not directed at anyone in particular, but I often hear people complain about media coverage and I don’t understand why people are consuming media that they feel leaves out important information. Why aren’t people seeking out a better media mix if they are finding their current media diet so deficient?

Will tests people do at home go into the official numbers? I hadn’t thought about it until just now.

I think that’s true of all of the data from everywhere except maybe S. Korea. I’m not sure we’ll ever know really.

I saved this from another thread here, and now I don’t remember who posted it. I thought it illustrated very well that the threat from this virus isn’t just death, the hospitalization rate is so much worse than the flu. Especially when I think that many of those hospitalizations could be deaths with no medical treatment, which is what we could be facing if the hospitals get overwhelmed. Even under 18 is a 10% hospitalization rate.

There were a few scenes with blood that I would have preferred not to have had my 4 year old see. She was in the room playing on a tablet. But I was fine with my 12 year old watching. It’s probably one you should screen for younger kids but I thought it was fine for at least middle school and up.

At least in VA international students were allowed to stay. They can stay until the end of the semester, when they would have left anyway. The college I’m connected to really did not want to have a scenario with a bunch of really sick kids in the dorms. They also did not want the student to come back from spring break with the virus and pass it all around, which seems prudent after all the spring break videos. So they made the decision to just not have them back after spring break, with a system set up for kids who needed waivers to stay.

I clicked on the agenda published from that link. It’s basically 1) homeschooling today, 2)the parents rights movement 3) problems with homeschooling 4) how to regulate it 5)litigation strategies.

They are. This is not a friendly gathering to discuss all sides of homeschooling. It’s an anti-homeschooling gathering focused on how to regulate homeschooling I’m not even against some regulation to be honest. The agenda for this panel isn’t regulating homeschools, it’s regulating it to the point of non existence.

I find it concerning. Most of the people represented on that panel seem to be anti-homeschooling. Many of them seem to equate homeschooling with religious extremism and abuse.

It’s what passes for optimism! 😋 Honestly being reminded that governors don’t want their hospitals over run and will probably try to prevent that is helpful. They all have Departments of Health and are likely to listen to them. I hope.

I’m so needing this optimism today. I’m feeling a little bit like the sky is falling.

I think the states have a lot of discretion here Just quoting you as a jump point. If the president does wish to loosen instructions, some of the governors will follow his lead. Even now some are resisting lock downs. I’m not sure of the economic impact of say Texas going back to work and just letting the virus run while neighboring states are under shelter in place orders. Its something we have to do together or not at all.

I hope you’re right.

You think we’ll stay locked down beyond the presidents suggestion of mid-April?

I have a question that is turning itself around in my head. Say that the US opens for business on the presidents preferred time table, back to work by Easter. Other countries are not following that. They are all locked down tight trying to control thus virus. What is our relationship going to be like with these other countries? They are all killing their economies to squash this, I doubt they just let Americans come visit for a holiday and risk one of us bringing the virus in with us. What are the ramifications, long and short term, of us taking such a different approach to this virus and how is that likely to effect our economy?

There is also a process called reconciliation that a bill can go through to iron out differences.

I found this on thus difference between S. Korea and Italy. It seems like it comes down to early and wide spread testing. S.Korea also has some ways of monitoring those in self quarantine that might not fly every where. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/03/italy-south-korea-differ-tackling-coronavirus-outbreak-200313062505781.html