Can anyone compare these two? Whatever you can add will be great. Assume student will use Saxon Teacher along with Saxon. Rigor, appeal to average student, ease of use, teacher led, etc. Asking for a friend. Thanks, Karen

One of my friends said if your son wants to talk to his son about The King's College he's happy to do it. Send me a pm if you want his email. BTW, I talked a little bit about money with him last week. He said freshman year was a little rough because you must live in King's housing and yes, that's $11,000 + a year plus food. There are basically two types of housing, one apartment style with its own small kitchen and one with shared kitchen. They budgeted $200 a month for food and extras (that's not a lot of extras). Since they live in NJ travel home was no big deal but would be for your son. This year his son is a junior and he shares an apartment in Brooklyn with 3 other guys. Much cheaper - $6000 for the year and the added bonus of not having to move out in May.

Marcia and Scott Somerville will be speaking at the Great Homeschool Conventions in 2012. TOG used to be sold at conventions, last year it was not. We simply explained how TOG works through both in print and DE samples. There was a convention bonus if a person ordered by the end of August with the code we handed out. My ds9 is doing UG history and D level literature this year (Year 2 - for the most part, some books I switch out because I prefer them). It's very easy to do. This year we use notebooking pages (scroll down for TOG pages) for outlining each week. We also have some dialectic dicussion (modified from dialectic script). I believe this will prepare him for next year when I plan to have him at dialectic for all components.

I have two friends with children there. I have never talked money with them but neither family is well off. I say apply and see what happens. It's a great school.

I wish I would have seen this last night :-/, I had a code for all video downloads at $49. Of course it expired last night :glare:

Wow Christine! That's amazing. What a great opportunity. Thanks everyone for your input. I have TOG 4, this kid went to school the year we used it home. TOG doesn't work well with him. The reading overwhelms and then there are discipline issues that we are constantly working on. I think I'm going to pull together something on my own using TOG, Ambleside online, the WTM suggestions, and TC. I have the Churchill video and I also have a great Childers audio called Europe and Western Civilization in the Modern Age. I like the idea of a Context page from the WTM. Today will be teacher in-service. Thanks for helping me think this through. Karen

This is for an 11th grader. Thanks, Karen

Same here. Then again we read Lemony Snicket and Hillaire Belloc so... Congratulations :thumbup1:

:iagree: :grouphug: I think another conversation is needed.

You're kids are young, sometimes it's harder to reason with them at that age. The phrase that seemed to work for us was "you're on the slippery slope." And the thing I like about Peacemaker is that it addresses all kinds of bad bahavior - bullies and "victims". We worked on one bad behavior at a time - their dad and I worked on our own issues too with them. I think showing them humility and "hey, we're all in this together," helped settle down pride, etc and any eye-rolling that may occur. So we spoke on a heart level and it made a difference for us.

I'm not sure if you are ok with Christian material, please disregard if you aren't. I love The Young Peacemaker. We took some cue words from it that really helped with my older two (twenty months apart). In general, I don't yell, punish in anger, or threaten. I would send them to separate areas and have them wait for me if I needed a time out before addressing bad behavior. Be consistant. Eventually if you are you will reap a harvest. Sometimes it may feel like it's taking forever. :tongue_smilie:

:iagree: And they have them at The Rack! $35.

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I have been using TOG for nine years. I do not use a separate reading program. I have never used CLE but I have looked at samples. TOG has a lot of reading and good selections but it doesn't have as much work as CLE at the lower levels, even dialectic. A student will learn about similar literary themes, devices, etc. but it is from one worksheet a week.

You can buy a stylus. We do some typing for school on PDFs with Goodreader, I'm not sure this is the best way.

Thank you for filling me in on AoPS. It was on my radar but I haven't really looked into it much.

Do you think he should go through 6th grade math before going to Aops pre-algebra?

I didn't plan on using 2 spines, like I said he zipped through Horizons and so Singapore filled the gap. We did use IP and CW last year. I like how Horizons repeats material for review. It's definitely a comfort level thing for me which *I* need to let go of. Thank you.

My ds9 was always accelerated in language, but his math acceleration has kind of snuck up on me and I'm wondering if I should rethink a bit. He was a little above grade level from the start, but last year took a leap which led to him going through a lot of math. 3rd grade: Horizons 3 Singapore 3B-4B with CWP 3 and Intensive Practice for level 4 LOF Fractions This year he skipped Horizons 4 and moved into Horizons 5. Yesterday was our 11th day of school and he finished lesson 42 so he is averaging 4 lessons a day pretty much error-free. He does 45-60 minutes worth of math a day and he does what he can in that time. He really hasn't gotten any new material yet, I know some is coming though. Even if he slows down we are on pace to finish H5 before Christmas break. We have Singapore 5 ready in the queue and LOF decimals, basically we are on track to repeat what we did last year. But last year wasn't planned like that, it just happened so I'm wondering if repeating that cycle is the best use of his time. He loves Fred and would do it for fun anyway so I won't take that away. What would you do?

That's what I thought and responses so far are closer than I expected.

How old is (are) your accelerated learner(s)? You can choose more than one.

My oldest used TOG 5th through 11th grades, he did rhetoric in 8th so he was done with TOG in 11th. It was a great fit for him and prepared him really well for college. Ds16 is no longer "officially" using TOG, it's simply not a good fit for him. I'm pulling some aspects out of year 4 for him.

:iagree: This version is different that's for sure, but I like it. Visually beautiful and Branagh and Winslet are very good. I like the complete cast.

You could do some (most) of the writing for him. That's what I did for my ds9 when he was that age. He also used his math shark, flash cards, and computer based math.