oh I agree and I’m not a fan of that aspect. Opinions that can’t be based on any genuinely knowledge though. No matter what the fans think they are close to these people - they aren’t. I’m sure some idols are. Same as some actors/idols anywhere looking to raise their popularity rates. what do you mean by given percentages? The percentage of homosexuals is not a high percentage. It would make more statistical sense to presume they aren’t gay than that they are. Kind of like while some horses are zebras the vast majority are not. Not denying their are in fact zebras, just that it doesn’t make sense to presume it everywhere all the time affection is shown. For me it’s not even about presuming gay to not. It’s about presuming sexual relationship or not. Straight or otherwise. What the hecken was that even about? It looked more like bullying to me than sexual. I don’t know what they are saying and I have no context. It seemed like guy on left put his arm over guy on right to show him his phone? And then after getting shoved off he keeps his phone away? Idk what was going on. It was indeed weird. but not nearly as weird as the combox. What. The. Heck. That was all kinds of messed up way more than anything in the video. 😳

hmm. I’m certainly not a heavy purveyor but it’s never phased me at all. To be honest I think most off stage anything anywhere is an example of things people just have no business watching much less making presumptions about. And that’s not even getting into sexuality. idk. I think it’s friendship. I think it’s sad that the only deeper relationships they seem to be allowed is sexual. Can’t be deep close friendship. I think that’s a sad statement about societal view of relationships. And it must be very difficult to constantly have to live knowing they are only seen in such a 1 dimensional sexual way. In private? Idk. I don’t think most men do not display it publicly but most men also (I hope) don’t have cameras filming them while sleeping and everything else 24/7. um. White men do that. Well I wouldn’t about know about the bed cuddles and thigh rubbing. (Like sleeping in puppy puddles or like um 🫣?) But the rest isn’t all that uncommon actually. Especially for younger men. yeah now that I think is nasty. Like the fans are cheering their favorite chippendales or something. Eww. I don’t like that at all. For men or women performers. I have noticed that. Again. I think it’s terribly sad that all relationships must be boiled down to sex. Can’t be too close or it’s gotta be sexual. SMH. I’ll be paying more attention to see if now that you mention it, I notice it more. I will say I am glad BTS is in the military. 1.5-2 years off 24/7 camera has got to be healthier for them, even if the only way they can get it is in the military duty.

right. I’m glad to see that the insanity is being more and more put down and less tolerated. Right. This is true for many actors too. They have often shared dorms/apartments too. Never minding that many of the actors actually started as music idols. They aren’t pretending to be gay.

fandom is indeed a riot from my spectator view. Lol eh? I have not seen any idols acting gay. Like. Ever. Their view of friendship may come off as gay to westerners, but they are not actually flirting with each other. examples? I actually find it refreshing that they can be close without the presumption of gayness/sex. Now that I completely agree with and I’m very happy to see more and more idols (and ever so slowly the companies they work for) actively discouraging that behavior and talk out against it. And more and more the loudest voices in their fandom are shouting against it too. Again. I have not seen idols pretending to be gay. But I’m also not looking at or for BL anything either. Wait a sec. I need examples. How westerners view flirting and sexuality is not the same across the globe. There are many cultures where men or women hold hands or hugging the same sex is NOT presumptive as sexual. It IS safe and doesn’t go anywhere because they are just close friends. Now this I agree with and totally see the same thing. I always feel bad for all the tape and glue those girls must have to keep everything so strategically in place. But also, their view of modesty is just… not western. Hmm. Well I’m generally against objectification - so I get that. But also, how anyone is on a stage has absolutely nothing to with who they actually are as a person. But Branding matters irl. I don’t entirely disagree with you on any of this but also, Korea is not New York. Or even Oklahoma. They are allowed their own culture standards. Not that it matters. I kinda feel like I should enjoy all the Korean culture I possibly can while I can bc it’s dying out swiftly. 🥺

Well to be fair they did more than raiding.

Wait a sec… Viking is a job?! sigh. More reasons to ponder my life decisions. Had no idea Viking was a career option. Gotta love the Scottish. Lol.

Currently watching but coming up on the last episodes for most of them: Love Song of Illusion (viki) Doctor Slump (Netflix) Marry My Husband (prime) Queen of Divorce (Kocowa - I’m thrilled this the ML is finally getting a ML role.) Flex X Cop (Hulu)

I haven’t watched my Demon mostly bc the same Ml is in Sweet Home, and I sometimes think it’s hard to make the character switches when the same leads are in multiple shows I’m currently watching. But I was surprised how much I liked Doom at your service. Dh and I are caught up and really liking it. But we love Minmin (park hyung sik) since his The Heirs days. I had no idea. I treat Kpop just like any other music. All I care about is if I like the song. I don’t usually follow the actual singer/groups much. But that’s a fascinating unique aspect! I’m going to have to check that out. What are Ateez fans called?

I am NOT villainizing him. He was wrong. That doesn’t make him a villain. I repeat. This is not as seen on tv. He isn’t a hero or a villain. This isn’t an action movie. He isn’t a villain. He isn’t a hero. He is another victim of gun violence endorsing national policies. And there will be little to no mental health care to help him cope with it either. He is just a man with a gun who made the error of shooting his gun and the bullet hit a little kid instead of a deranged murderer. I think he was untrained and uneducated about gun use. I think this could have been prevented and this should be investigated to show exactly how it could have been prevented. Instead our society has decided to they’d rather have multiple generations struggle to live with the mental illness of gun trauma.

And yes. I get that it takes years. My Simeons are 3 people I’ve literally known for decades. Now I figure their spouses are exempt from the “don’t tell anyone” but I’m lucky in that they chose spouses who can respect the bond.

Well I have priests to confess sins to. 😁 What do they mean by partner? Like spouse? No. Like kids? No. Like blood relative? No. Like a close friend that’s closer than those other categories? Yes. Thank God. And it has nothing to do with how much the other categories are loved or love me. There’s some things that you just can’t share to maintain those relationships. Most people don’t want to hear how they’ve hurt you. Because it hurts! Most people would rather leave a relationship (avoid more pain or isolate in shame) than have a hard conversation(s) about how to heal relationship. People lie and break trust in various ways. People don’t always love the people they love. We all need someone we can tell that trauma to who won’t try to fix what can’t be fixed or try to convince we just shouldn’t love them anymore, but instead bear silent witness as they help us carry our cross. Everyone needs at least one Simeon. It’d be awesome sauce if everyone tried a bit harder to be a Simeon to others too.

Absolutely. Most times the best way to save the most lives is to not add more guns.

It isn’t complicated. People want to distract from the issue at hand by saying is complicated and they feel bad for him. In a crowded hallway of panicked people the odds are very low that adding another gun to the scenario is going to not end up in another dead/injured innocent person. That is not complicated. It isn’t. What needs to happen is to highlight the ever-lovin hell out of that fact. It should be a part of gun laws that training is a must. Give them a 2-3 dozen moving practice targets some innocent and one that looks like all the others but in a split second they have to decide whether it’s a clear shot of not. Do a mock up of where everyone was and how they were moving and bring in an expert shooter to see if they could make the shot and how often out of 10 it would be accurate. Then have those who aren’t experts try it. People need to stop thinking real life is like tv dammit. While I have compassion for his mistake, that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have responsibility. I don’t think the officer should be put in prison but there should be an investigation and judgement on him for this. He should be accountable for his gun use and any damage his trigger pull causes. ANYONE who cannot be held accountable for their gun use - should not have a gun or shouldn’t ever have one again. (Tho honestly, if I would think if someone accidentally shot a kid, they wouldn’t ever touch a gun again without feeling like throwing up anyways.)

This is my stance too. I’d like to be wrong. No snark at all, very sincere in that. But there’s no way they don’t know already. I think they should protect the officer bc he is a person but they should absolutely not hide this. The last thing we need these days is for everyone with a gun to think this was a smart brave thing to do. It isn’t. In a hallway full of panicked innocent people, the odds of not killing an innocent person are very low. There’s no way we are going a whole week without another shooting. At this point, going a whole week without a shooting would be bigger unusual news than having a shooting is.

And that’s fine by me. I have also said I really hope it’s all wrong and it wasn’t his bullet that killed that boy. But if we are going to be talking maybe/if all day long. Maybe if he did - then that bullet is his responsibility.

Since when is okay to justify shooting a terrified boy who needed help as defense of others? It wasn’t justified. Idk that the man should go to prison for panicking but he shouldn’t be praised for this. Maybe more would have died is just that. A maybe. Would could maybe all day. But the fact is if the security guard had not fired - he would not have shot that boy. Maybe the mom would have. And then that dead baby would be on her. Maybe if he waited for a better chance he would have had a clearer shot. Maybe maybe maybe. But facts are the odds of his bullet not killing an innocent person in that scenario were extremely low. That’s a fact that we should not and cannot ignore for the sake of using a BS maybe/what if to justify how he used his gun so we can feel better about it. I wonder if everyone would think this was justified if it had not been the shooter’s son and some other random bystander’s son instead. Somehow I bet the conversation would be different if the child shot had a mother to grieve him that this security officer had to face afterwards. We cannot control others’ actions. But that doesn’t absolve us of responsibility for how we react to them. We are responsible for our actions. All of us. Everyone who owns a gun is responsible for who their bullets hit.

Actually I started my response stating that the day the shooter got a gun this was a no-win situation. But the bottom line is that she is not the one who shot her son. That wasn’t her bullet. She is responsible for what she did. The security officer that shot her son is responsible for what he did. Everyone is responsible for their own actions and reactions. bullshirt. I repeat: Anyone who pulls a trigger is responsible for where that bullet hits. People are responsible for their own actions.

It’s almost like we live in a country where anyone can be irrationally and even publicly violent. Like a baller could get aggressive with his coach on a live broadcast game and it’s okay/shrugged off bc of stress or adrenaline or whatever BS or bc it’s different bc the coach has known their family and him for years and they are close. Or like some random could have a problem with their life or whatever but well they must be mentally ill or just a loser/jerk or idk what all BS but well what can we do bc stranger just be strange sometimes.🤷‍♀️ oh wait. It isn’t almost. It is like that. It’s a free for all out there people. We have had more mass shootings than days in the year so far. Pray hard. Voter harder.

The second that woman got a gun it was a no-win situation. But that’s a lie that I would call anyone a coward just bc they don’t shoot someone else. Even if it meant other lives. A person who pulls the trigger on a gun is responsible for where that bullet hits. That doesn’t necessarily mean I think security is some horrible person. I can imagine (bc I am indeed imaginative) that in a tv like moment of a shooter holding a gun to a kid and about the pull the trigger. Maybe someone having either way too much confidence or just panicking and try to hit the target and god help them, they end up hitting the kid themselves. They show that crap on tv but the truth is most well-trained people stand down and wait for better odds in that situation exactly bc they don’t want to risk living with the odds of hitting an innocent person, absolutely not a kid. I sincerely hope she did. Because it will or should be a brutal thing to live with that I wouldn’t wish on anyone else. The suicide rate of heroes is high for a reason. Even when they do things right and it goes as well as it could and nothing is their fault - there is a toll. But all that aside. This is all wasted time in distraction and why nothing ever changes. The problem is gun/ammo access.

Actually I disagree. A general rule of guns is to never ever open fire in a crowd for a reason - the chances of hitting someone other than the target is higher than hitting the target. This is very very well documented fact. Security shouldn’t have even pulled their weapon. The goal should have been to get everyone to safety as fast as possible. Life is not as seen on tv. Every person who pulls the trigger on a gun is responsible for pulling that trigger and the results of who it hits. Security and cops and random citizens included.

Idk how him going out to dinner after an incident he had no part in is any different than people who live in KC going out to dinner and posting pics of their food on IG or watching TMZ clips together on their phones. For every person who wants to light a candle and publicly cry on the street about it - there’s a very large number of others who have accepted this is just life now. Another day, another shooting, and the living still going about living as best they can. And that’s not entirely bad. Don’t let the bastards keep you down isn’t an all wrong approach to tragedy.

This. A bully is targeted. A jerk is going about their business being a jerk like always.

And angel sharks. There really is a shark for everyone. Oops. Corrected with pic.

Both are showing up on my Hulu acct. flex cop sounds awful cheesy so we will probably watch it. Impossible heir has The Heirs vibe to it, so we will probably watch it too eventually. The only reason we have a Hulu acct is because they have a super cheap college student Hulu/spotify combo membership for $7 a month. I tell you what, my Dh lives for the day he qualifies for both college student and senior citizen discounts at the same time. It’s not quite the yogurt coupon sales event of 2005 but dadgum he loves a deal even if it’s on something he doesn’t use. 🙃

Oh wait. I do have to say Disney+ is the only stream in the states where I could watch Family: The Unbreakable Bond. The ml and fl are two of my favorite international actors and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was fun and has a happy ending. I watched Soundtrack #1 (bc ML MinMin!!) and Soundtrack #2. Somehow managed to me meh even with minmin in #1. #2 was also meh. Again the translations were off-putting. The only reason we have Disney is bc a son put us on his acct so Dh could watch Star Wars stuff. The only thing me and the kids ever watch is Bluey. Bluey is fabulous.😁