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Remind us, when is the psych eval?  You could probably get done an SLP eval while you wait.  Is your psych doing an APD screening?  Has he been to an audiologist?  There can be multiple explanations.  Once you know there's language issues going on, you'd like an SLP eval or to make sure the psych is doing language testing.  If he's a neuropsych, he probably will.  If it's not a neuropsych, then definitely add the SLP eval.  I would anyway, just me.

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Well I guess see what they did and what is left.  Maybe they'll uncover it with their testing.  Sometimes places are very thorough, and sometimes it takes a few practitioners to get all the bases hit.  You're definitely seeing SOMETHING, so if they don't get it explained then you'll do some more testing and get it explained.  You're not crazy.

 

When will you get those results?

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PS.  The reason people aren't jumping and saying what it is, is because that could go with really mild/benign things all the way up to really severe stuff.  Yes, a dyslexic might be getting less language input and have some language challenges.  That would be a possible explanation.  You'll see kids with ASD who have trouble acquiring language, and that's a much more complex explanation.  So we're hoping for simple explanations for you!  :)

 

APD=auditory processing disorder.  Does he have trouble hearing people when he's in noisy places?  Like in Chipotle or when the AC or a loud fan or something is on, is it hard for him to hear you?  Not that that's some exhaustive test, but it's a way it shows up.  And with APD you get lots of symptoms that mimic dyslexia but aren't.  

 

So here's to hoping for benign, easy explanations.  :)

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Yeah, it's fine. I'm not mad that there weren't more responses or anything like that. I just think I'm not knowledgeable anough about any of this to have a meaningful discussion and that would be all speculation anyway.

 

I don't think he has an APD. He's a musician.

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Weirder things have happened, lol.  You might just ask him.  My dd has some *mild* auditory processing issues, so they are something she compensates for but they aren't enough to get her a label.  

 

I'm sure you'll be glad when you finally get the results!  It's hard to wait!  :)

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and now I can't remember the OP.  Was it something about comprehension and language processing?  Or maybe I'm remembering some other thread.  I have dc with vague language processing issues - including reading comp and vocab, for instance.  They sort of "looked" dyslexic but are not (I did still find the Dyslexic Advantage to be an interesting read).  At this point in time, they have no particular LD diagnosis.

 

ETA, while no one can really predict what the evals will say, I do think it's a useful exercise to talk about the various possibilities in order to better prepare yourself with questions for the psych.

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It was poor comprehension and poor acquisition of new vocabulary. I'm just thinking maybe it doesn't make sense for me to wade in the world of a thousand acronyms when I don't actually know what the difficulty is. So maybe it is best for me to wait - hard as that is - until July 12th, when we will go in for the results of the evaluations.

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Eat chocolate! You'll make it!! What are you making for 4th of July? I need ideas! :)

I'm actually planning to make my Sears-Roebuck 1800s Brownies, and they have so much chocolate, they should be illegal. We'll be heading down to Solomon's Island, MD, where we shall inhumanely steam our state crustacean and then pull them apart like savages, dipping their little swimmerets in melted butter along the way.

 

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So maybe it is best for me to wait - hard as that is - until July 12th, when we will go in for the results of the evaluations.

 

Waiting is sooo hard! Especially when you know the date is coming and time just ticks so slowly.

 

Just making a comment about APD and musicians: various types of APD can result in somewhat different profiles. In one APD profile, a person may have difficulties with pitch and/or timing that would make musical performance challenging. However, it is possible to have APD and be a good musician. My daughter is a fiddler with APD. Her challenges do not lie in timing or pitch. She has difficulty with hearing the speaker's voice in the presence of background noise. She did have trouble with vocabulary and language comprehension, but she had a lot of intervention to develop her language skills. Language comprehension is no longer an issue, but hearing the speaker's voice in a noisy environment is nearly impossible.

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Waiting is sooo hard! Especially when you know the date is coming and time just ticks so slowly.

 

Just making a comment about APD and musicians: various types of APD can result in somewhat different profiles. In one APD profile, a person may have difficulties with pitch and/or timing that would make musical performance challenging. However, it is possible to have APD and be a good musician. My daughter is a fiddler with APD. Her challenges do not lie in timing or pitch. She has difficulty with hearing the speaker's voice in the presence of background noise. She did have trouble with vocabulary and language comprehension, but she had a lot of intervention to develop her language skills. Language comprehension is no longer an issue, but hearing the speaker's voice in a noisy environment is nearly impossible.

Well, that is interesting information, but more for my DH than DS. DS has many struggles that are similar to his father's struggles, but DH is quite tone-deaf. It's a joke in our family. He (DH) makes a LOT of effort towards learning music; he's not half bad at guitar now, but he as NO sense of pitch. At all. So...it's an interesting possible part of the puzzle.

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I'm actually planning to make my Sears-Roebuck 1800s Brownies, and they have so much chocolate, they should be illegal. 

 

:)

 

Ok, you know you CANNOT make a comment like that and not share, lol.   :drool5:   

 

Recipe?  Pretty please?  

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Ok, you know you CANNOT make a comment like that and not share, lol. :drool5:

 

Recipe? Pretty please?

I can put it up, but I must warn you, this recipe has NO modern sesibilities WRT fat, calories and/or sugar. :D

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I'll add that both APD kids I know play the piano by ear. There is not much rhyme or reason to APD.

 

Waiting stinks!!!

That seems so improbable.

 

I was looking at a site about APD. It just doesn't fit with DS much at all. He was not a late-talker, didn't have speech or enunciation problems, follows directions reasonably well (particularly when it's in his own interests), is not very disorganized. He learns well from a lecture format; it is reading that is a very weak channel for him to learn anything. And anyone who can keep all those maps, health points, keys, weapons and whatever else straight on Tomb Raider...

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Sears Roebuck 1897 catelog recipe for Chocolate Fudge Brownies:

 

1 1/2 cups (3 sticks) unsalted butter

7 squares (1 oz. ea) unsweetened chocolate

2 1/4 cups sifted all-purpose flour

1 1/2 teasp. Salt

4 cups coarsly chopped walnuts (but I omit them)

6 large eggs

3 cups sugar

1 1/2 tables. Vanilla extract

36 walnut halves, optional

 

Preheat oven to 325.F and butter a 15 x10x2" pan. In a small saucepan (i do this double-boiler style), melt butter and chocolate over low heat; cool. Onto a piece of wax paper (I don't know WHY they say this and never use wax paper!) sift the flour, salt and then toss with the nuts (unless you hate them ;)). In a large bowl with electric mixer on high, beat eggs just until foamy. Add the sugar, cooled chocolate mixture and vanilla; beat just until blended. Stir in the flour mixture just until it disappears, then spoon into the pan. Top with walnut halves if you wish. Bake for 35 minutes (ALWAYS takes longer than this) or until a toothpick inserted in the center comes out almost clean. Let cool in pan for 15 minutes, cut into 2x 1 1/2" bars. Makes 3 1/2 dz.

 

Taken from Reader's Digest Down Home Cooking, The New, Healthier Way, 1994. Reader's Digest. New York/Montreal.

 

This makes a very cake-like, fudgy brownie. It is not at all similar to a brownie you would make from a Duncan Hines box, assuming that is something you would do. But if I say I am "making brownies," THIS is what I am making! Guaranteed to placate the most hormone-driven or anxiety-based rage for chocolate. At least, it always works for me.

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Any particular type of chocolate you use for that?  That's Bakers or Ghiradellis or...

 

That's pretty astonishing, really.  It's like a triple batch or something.  15X10, is that glass?  I have one that big that is glass.  Or you use metal?  That's a lotta brownie, lol.  And then you frost it?  

 

I have mint on the brain, so I keep thinking mint frosting on brownies would be good...

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And there's nothing ironic about a recipe that rich being in a "new healthier way" cookbook... :lol:

Well, yeah, I was going to explain that, but I was tired of typing...it has, of course, a much "healthier" version of brownies, but has that recipe in as a historic note: it is where the idea of "brownies" supposedly originated. (The cookbook has a lot of historical references of old recipes and then also has a re-make with, oh, you know, ONE mere stick of butter. ;)

 

 

And yes, I use either my 15X 10 cake pan (metal) or a glass or ceramic casserole dish. I personally like it in the metal pan better, but have made it in the glass just fine. I have used both Bakers and Ghiradelli (however it's spelled!) chocolate.

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I haven't ever scaled it. I most often make it when we will have a bunch of folks to share it with.

 

I always get rather baffled when scaling eggs. Sometimes halving or doubling eggs doesn't seem to come out as a perfect adjustment.

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And anyone who can keep all those maps, health points, keys, weapons and whatever else straight on Tomb Raider...

My 20 year old nephew can remember all the Pokemon names and abilities but failed all his english and chinese spelling tests from preK. He is finishing community college and then can take his time deciding on which college.

 

No evaluation was done. He was just fast at forgetting anything he didn't care about and happy when he gets hands on with book work. He draws very well and his notes are mostly drawn. I would guess he prefer learning pictorially rather than text.

 

My dad has below norm memory. He has poorer memory regardless of text, picture or verbal. He needed lots of drill for something to go into long term memory. My dad would probably benefit from an eval but he was born when evaluation was unheard of.

 

My kids would appreciate your brownie recipe :). We have a Ghirardelli outlet nearby.

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And what is it with 2ww?  When you're pregnant (which I seldom am, but that's beside the point), it's a 2 week wait.  Psychs, two week wait.  What else has a two week wait?  It's bad.  They should just kick out those results pronto!

 

But really, it's summer.  Lots of nice things to do.  Sunbathe, travel, plan a road trip...  I like to get engrossed in planning something I may never get to do.  Are your kids doing anything interesting this summer?  It's weird, because summers were always low key with my dd.  With ds, we've made them increasingly fast-paced--fall is going to feel like a vacation!

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I'm actually planning to make my Sears-Roebuck 1800s Brownies, and they have so much chocolate, they should be illegal. We'll be heading down to Solomon's Island, MD, where we shall inhumanely steam our state crustacean and then pull them apart like savages, dipping their little swimmerets in melted butter along the way.

 

:)

 

 

Totally OT, but I just read an article that the blue crab population is up 30% in the Chesapeake Bay this year. 

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Totally OT, but I just read an article that the blue crab population is up 30% in the Chesapeake Bay this year. 

 

Why would it be up?  Is this a good thing, or is it causing problems?  

 

We used to live in VA, so we would see people crabbing...  :)

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That's cool! I know they've done some aggressive management of the bay watershed--it collects water from places very far away, and it's hard to get people who lives hours and hours away by car to see why they have some pretty intensive regulations at times (farmers being the ones bearing the brunt of it). 

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Totally OT, but I just read an article that the blue crab population is up 30% in the Chesapeake Bay this year.

It is believable. The past few years, we have not pulled many in with our creek-crabbing, but this year, it is much better.

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