math teacher Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I have been teaching 3 years, and I'm at my second school because we moved. I teach in the resource classroom, meaning all my students have an IEP, but they all come and go. I'm not self-contained. In your school, how many resource teachers do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Are you talking about the Academic Support Team, like math and reading specialists? My local elementary has ten for about 400 students. This doesn’t include student services, esol, or spec Ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dainty Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 One resource room teacher for a k-4 building with apx 450 kids. All her kids have IEP's and she is overloaded. This does no include other supports, just the resource room teacher. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math teacher Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 18 hours ago, KungFuPanda said: Are you talking about the Academic Support Team, like math and reading specialists? My local elementary has ten for about 400 students. This doesn’t include student services, esol, or spec Ed. No, I mean Special Education, but not self-contained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math teacher Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Truth said: One resource room teacher for a k-4 building with apx 450 kids. All her kids have IEP's and she is overloaded. This does no include other supports, just the resource room teacher. I see 18 students a day, which is not all that many, but it is 3 grade levels for math and reading. I work a lot of weekends and early mornings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math teacher Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just now, Math teacher said: I see 18 students a day, which is not all that many, but it is 3 grade levels for math and reading. I work a lot of weekends and early mornings. I do the sped paper work for 28 students-which of course means the ARDs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaVT Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I am the special educator for my school (5-8) - just me, no resource teachers. 80 kids, 14 with IEPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math teacher Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, AmandaVT said: I am the special educator for my school (5-8) - just me, no resource teachers. 80 kids, 14 with IEPs. 22 minutes ago, AmandaVT said: I am the special educator for my school (5-8) - just me, no resource teachers. 80 kids, 14 with IEPs. You have 80 students? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaVT Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Math teacher said: You have 80 students? No - the school has 80. I have 14 on IEPs and then, depending on the day, I work with 6-10 more that I'm keeping an eye on in case they need further intervention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math teacher Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AmandaVT said: No - the school has 80. I have 14 on IEPs and then, depending on the day, I work with 6-10 more that I'm keeping an eye on in case they need further intervention. Ok-gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math teacher Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 My purpose for the question is -How common is it for one teacher to have this heavy of a load? 28 IEPs Math 3-5 Reading 3-5 Language 5 An extra Friday program that is student interest, but labor intensive We are an "A" school in our state accountability, very data driven, tech heavy. I get to work most mornings around 6. Some days I don't leave until 6:30. I write around 80 progress reports besides report cards every grading period. I have two paras, but they are only there during the part of the day that I have multi grade levels at one time. The paras teach some of the curriculum but I have to prepare it for them all the way down to working out the math problem solving complete with strategies. The prep work and lesson plans are insane. I have one student that i have to pre-work his tests down to computation. I mark out one answer choice on all their tests except benchmarks. And many more things like this. It all takes time, and my principal wants to know why I spend so much time at the school. I guess I'm just looking for validation or commiseration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tap Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 DD goes to a therapeutic day school. Every student is on an IEP and each student is there for behavior issues. The school goes from k-12 max about 100 students (or maybe grades 1-12). Each elementary and middle school class it topped off at 10 students and there are generally a teacher plus 2-3 support staff per class. Every sing teacher and staff are specially trained for behavior support. They use it daily and are constantly retrained. Classrooms are often mixed grades (average of 2-3 years) to better accommodate each kids education and mental health needs. Things change over time, but an example would be that the kids who need lower academic content, would be clustered together. There might be a 3,4,5 class that is over all lower level, than more neurotypical a 4,5 classroom. This was the teachers can utilize appropriate reading/math/science groups. But quite honestly the try hard to give each kid the level they need. The support staff are often future teachers who are working on their credentials. They quite often end up working at the school a a teacher when they graduate. It is very rare to see a single staff with more than 3 students (at least in the younger grades). When she went to a traditional public school, there were about 15-20 kids coming in/out of the behavior support classroom and going for 2-3 staff. They would have to call the librarian or secretary to help out if a student got unruly, because there would be one teacher teaching a lesson and one working one-on-one with a student. There would be no one else to help, so they would call who they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 16 hours ago, Math teacher said: No, I mean Special Education, but not self-contained. We have 2, along with 3 special ed paraeducators (some school systems call these teaching assistants). We have just under 400 students. The teachers both push-in and pull-out, while the paras primarily push-in, unless pulling kids to take a test or go over something 1 on 1. And no, I'm not on the hive during work hours... I'm off this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Math teacher said: My purpose for the question is -How common is it for one teacher to have this heavy of a load? 28 IEPs Math 3-5 Reading 3-5 Language 5 An extra Friday program that is student interest, but labor intensive We are an "A" school in our state accountability, very data driven, tech heavy. I get to work most mornings around 6. Some days I don't leave until 6:30. I write around 80 progress reports besides report cards every grading period. I have two paras, but they are only there during the part of the day that I have multi grade levels at one time. The paras teach some of the curriculum but I have to prepare it for them all the way down to working out the math problem solving complete with strategies. The prep work and lesson plans are insane. I have one student that i have to pre-work his tests down to computation. I mark out one answer choice on all their tests except benchmarks. And many more things like this. It all takes time, and my principal wants to know why I spend so much time at the school. I guess I'm just looking for validation or commiseration. From the schools I've been at, including the current one, I wouldn't consider that a heavy load. Especially since you said that you only see 18/day. I don't get why you need to work everything out for your paras. They should know the strategies and be able to figure out the answers quickly as they go. If they can't, you need new paras. Ours are required to have the equivalent of an associates and go through intensive training when they start. They attend as much PD as the teachers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 5:18 PM, Math teacher said: No, I mean Special Education, but not self-contained. I see. Our school has 5 special ed teachers for 400 students, but if you include the whole team (therapists, paras, etc) it’s 17 people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Library Momma Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 The K-2 Elementary here that has about 350 students has: 1 Psychologist 1 Social Worker 3 SPED Teachers 3 Speech 1 ELL 2 Reading Specialists 3 Tutors 1 Math Coach 3 PT/OT 13 Paras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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