egao_gakari Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 An IQ to low to be taught, a student too smart to believe that. And a tough, bold mom who didn't trust what the IQ test said! I hope I do as well preparing my kids for real life :D 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Good for her! I'm often skeptical about the accuracy of IQ tests--I don't think they are fool-proof. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 It reminds me of living proof of the story Animal School: 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egao_gakari Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 13 hours ago, MerryAtHope said: Good for her! I'm often skeptical about the accuracy of IQ tests--I don't think they are fool-proof. Yep, they don't really seem diagnostic of anything useful in a lot of cases. I feel so sorry for the special-ed teacher who broke down crying because she "failed" the poor kid--who would ever have imagined that there's such a disability as being nearly blind due to a neurological problem while having 20/20 vision at the same time?! It really brought home to me that even the professionals, helpful though they certainly are in many circumstances, can't possibly be experts in each individual child. This mom's confidence that the IQ results were wrong came from her experiences with him in the home, outside the academic setting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 7/1/2018 at 12:20 AM, MerryAtHope said: Good for her! I'm often skeptical about the accuracy of IQ tests--I don't think they are fool-proof. My ds has had IQ tests vary by as much as 50 points! Disabilities can impact IQ tests in a way that completely invalidates them. I'm so glad the mom believed in herself enough to stand up for her child instead of giving up on him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mom22ns said: My ds has had IQ tests vary by as much as 50 points! Disabilities can impact IQ tests in a way that completely invalidates them. I'm so glad the mom believed in herself enough to stand up for her child instead of giving up on him. We had that here too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Mom22ns said: My ds has had IQ tests vary by as much as 50 points! Disabilities can impact IQ tests in a way that completely invalidates them. I'm so glad the mom believed in herself enough to stand up for her child instead of giving up on him. 1 hour ago, EKS said: We had that here too. Posts like these make me wish for the gaping mouth emoticon! Good gravy that's just crazy! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egao_gakari Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 15 hours ago, OKBud said: Wow that's amazing! I wonder what it looked like when he was asked to draw something when he was little. Wouldn't everything look completely different to him than it does everyone else? Or just written words and numbers for some reason? Good point. On the other hand, I think we tend to assume kids are "typical," and there's a "typical" explanation... like "he's just not that great at drawing." My DSS13's colorblindness wasn't noticed for a surprisingly long time, because he was an early reader and knew that, for example, "trees have green leaves," so he would figure out which crayon was green based on the words on the wrapper and use the "correct" color even though he couldn't tell red from green or pink from gray. I think he was about 8 before his cover was blown ? Getting corrective glasses for him was really cool--he had never "seen" a terracotta pot or a morning glory flower before. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 16 hours ago, OKBud said: I wonder what it looked like when he was asked to draw something when he was little. Wouldn't everything look completely different to him than it does everyone else? Or just written words and numbers for some reason? I would guess it was chalked up to fine motor issues. Many disabilities are often co-morbid with poor fine motor skills. It would be interesting to know if he had enough artistic talent to make things look the way he saw them though. I would be fascinated to see what he saw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 What a great post, egao_gakari. Thanks for posting the link. Regards, Kareni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhappypeople Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 4:42 PM, OKBud said: Wow that's amazing! I wonder what it looked like when he was asked to draw something when he was little. Wouldn't everything look completely different to him than it does everyone else? Or just written words and numbers for some reason? My daughter has convergence insufficiency. In her particular case, it didn't affect her ability to draw. She's always been really good at it. My educated guess is that CI affects small and close visual tasks when your eyes have to almost cross to focus, but her drawings were always larger than printed letters. So the CI didn't interfere with that to any serious degree. Now, a weird twist is that she had trouble learning to write letters. She could draw these complex pictures but still struggle to remember that the lower case j hangs below the line, or she'd mix upper and lower case letters, or make all letters the same height (so k and a would both be tall letters). But have her complete a realistic drawing of one of our cats and she's golden. But then again, cats are a lot bigger than written text, so maybe it's not so strange after all. By the way, she did eventually master proper printing when was about 11, but it took way longer than expected given her exceptional fine motor skills and excellent visual memory. My official conclusion: Brains are weird. Try to figure out who your child is and how they learn and then roll with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakelly Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 What a wonderful story!! My DD had convergence insufficiency along with a 5-6 second lag time that it took her eyes to focus when she shifted her gaze from one thing to another. Vision Therapy was a miracle for her. So glad it helped that young man too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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