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Wondering if this would be an option to use instead of LiPS for my 5 YO who can't pass the Barton screening part C.  I don't want to try to figure out LiPS and this looks open-and-go, not to mention I can buy the whole kit for the same price as a used LiPS manual alone on Amazon.  As far as I can tell from reading threads on LiPS and looking at samples it covers the same sorts of things with teaching them to pay attention to what their mouth is doing when they make sounds.  I don't feel like he's going to need extensive work in this area, just some.

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If he's only failing part C, doesn't Barton have a different recommendation?  You might check.  Didn't he originally fail all the sections, then you did something and it improved?  

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No LiPS is what they suggest for part C. I retested him after working on whether sounds and words were the same or different for a while and he did better than the first time, but not passing.

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I'm not entirely sure if he really needs it or if his auditory discrimination will likely improve with a little more time. I've read that Barton says a NT 5 YO should pass the whole screening with no problems...but then I've talked to a former special ed teacher who's hs'd her own kids with dyslexia, and a SLP from Scottish Rites, and they both said most 5 YOs have some trouble with auditory discrimination.

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Actually, there IS another recommendation on the Barton site.  I linked it below.  It is very new.  It appears that this other program is a lot more user friendly for parent/tutors with little to no training, as opposed to the steep learning curve and sort of problematic LiPS program layout/presentation for layman.

 

http://www.foundationinsounds.com/

 

Maybe Foundations in Sounds would work better?

 

 

FWIW, ideally, I think Barton works better with a 6 year old or older, TBH.  

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Yes, FiS was developed to solve this very problem of people not finding LIPS easy to pick up and use.  If someone has serious speech problems, I think they still need LIPS.  I've been hearing things back channel, but I still don't think it's equivalent.  But for most normal cases, FiS is going to be MUCH more user-friendly and straightforward, and it's in a similar user-friendly layout to Barton.  It's the logical choice for people failing the pre-test who need an intervention option before starting Barton.  It should make beginning Barton seamless.

 

As far as ages for Barton, by the time you get through FiS your dc probably will be 6 months or whatever older.  We've done it, and while some things were frustrating or not age-appropriate, there were other options that were just fine.  Really, a LOT of my ds' issue was his low language scores, and that was due to his ASD, not the dyslexia.  

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I have looked at FiS but it is SO expensive. DH would probably choke if I spent that much. I know I could resell it later, but still. And I wonder if Barton recommends those 2 because she thinks theu're the only ones that work well, or because they transition well to Barton. I don't plan to use Barton as Abecedarian seems to work well for my older two, so I'm not worried about transitioning.

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Well, before you jump into buying something expensive, you could always DIY phonological awareness practice for a few months. There are so many good ideas for games and such online. 

 

Off the top of my head, a few fun ideas are:

 

You say a sentence, kid hops across the floor for each word in the sentence

Ditto, but for sounds in a word

 

Draw three (or only two) vertical lines on a paper, one column for each sound. Kid drops a peanut (or whatever treat) for each SOUND they hear... and then eat peanuts! :)

 

Clap for each word, then for each sound within a word

 

Say the sounds in words in silly voices, veeerrrrry loudly and slowly :)

 

Print out pictures of 3-4 sound words (frog, cup, etc) and play 'finding the sounds'

 

I think you could easily google and find the "bones" of LiPS on people's blog and such. You need to understand the nicknames for the sounds in the Vowel Circle, and for consonants, you could google Consonant Brothers. I bet you can find enough to DIY it for all the single vowel sounds and consonants. :) If your kid doesn't need the whole shebang, it could work.

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