bbcooker Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What do you like that teaches diagramming sentences? I'm looking specifically for the skill of diagramming sentences - I do not need extra teaching in it, but extra teaching in it is fine too. I just need diagramming tutorials, something from the very beginning and for about the 4th level, with lots of practice. (Dc learns not through concept teaching but through over and over and over drill.) But I want it too to have orderly concept teaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatmansWife Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If you want diagramming sentences and if you want that over and over again...then I'd suggest Analytical Grammar or Junior Analytical Grammar. If you want video teaching then I'd suggest Grammar Revolution. But, I don't think there's as much practice as you'd get in AG or JAG. GR is more like...watch the video...do a couple sentences...move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 My kids love Analytical Grammar (seriously, they do ... weird, I know) and it thoroughly teaches diagramming with lots and lots of practice. But I don't start til 6th grade when they do season 1, then season 2 in 7th grade, then season 3 in 8th and they're done with grammar. I don't use Junior AG because it seemed like overkill to me. I don't think I'd use AG with anyone younger than 6th grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathie in VA Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Mary Daly's First Book of Diagramming. It teaches just diagraming (& the concepts behind the grammar terms) and has lots and lots of examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwik Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I lost the link when my phone died but if you can face searching there is a link somewhere recently to a free printable diagramming workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaLisa Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 R & S. Inexpensive, straightforward, excellent explanation, plenty of exercises, durable hardback books that can be used child after child, just a do-the-next-thing and git-R-done curriculum that still teaches solid mastery. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jewellsmommy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Digging into Diagramming goes from simple subject and verb all the way through compound-complex sentences with gerund phrases etc. It is a teaching workbook and is inexpensive. It is made by the same company that puts out Growing with Grammar, and It is diagramming only. Both of my dc are currently working in it without complaint. ETA: both dc have done Growing with Grammar. so, most of the diagramming they are working on right now is review. Digging into Diagramming does not have an abundance of work to be completed with each section, but the teaching is incremental and clear. It is a great companion piece to a full grammar curriculum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhappyjoyjoy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 My kids love Analytical Grammar (seriously, they do ... weird, I know) and it thoroughly teaches diagramming with lots and lots of practice. But I don't start til 6th grade when they do season 1, then season 2 in 7th grade, then season 3 in 8th and they're done with grammar. I don't use Junior AG because it seemed like overkill to me. I don't think I'd use AG with anyone younger than 6th grade. If you use their three year timeline for 6th-8th, does it get into diagramming in year one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yes, they learn how to diagram all basic parts of speech and compound sentences/parts of speech in season 1. Season 2 is for participials, gerunds, infinitives, & clauses. My 7th grader was inordinately proud of himself for the complicated sentence he could easily diagram at the end of season 2. :) "The gleam of the match which he struck shone upon his clotted fingers and upon the ghastly pool which widened from the crushed skull of the victim." - quote from The Hound of the Baskervilles by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Year 3 is punctuation & usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhappyjoyjoy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Thank you. My DS1 can utilize textbooks pretty independently. So this is a text that would not be very dependent on me. In other words, I'm there to answer questions when he gets stuck. If yes, this sounds like a winner for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I think it's possible that a very motivated older student who is very intuitive with grammar *might* be OK reading through it and doing it independently ... but at 6th and 7th and 8th grades, mine definitely needed me to go through it with them and teach it and do the first few examples with them the first day, then grade the exercises with them each day after that. Maybe that's because my kids were completely unfamiliar with diagramming before this, but it was very intimidating to them at first. Once they got started they realized that hey, this isn't so bad and it's even kind of fun, but I think if I'd just handed it to them and said "go" they would have shut down. It really only takes about 20 minutes a day (of my time - their time is about an hour/day), and the Seasons are relatively short. Season 1 lasts 10 weeks, Season 2 lasts 8 weeks, then Season 3 lasts 17 weeks (but it's even quicker than the 1st 2 seasons, so maybe only 10-15 minutes a day). The other weeks of the school year they focus on writing and composition and just do a few grammar review exercises here and there and don't need me at all for that. Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhappyjoyjoy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yes it does. Thank you so much for your input. It sounds like what I'm looking for. I would expect to help out at the beginning and then turn it over only to check work and answer questions. That is how he uses Saxon math, science, and history. With Shurley, I have to use the script. I don't mind right now, but next year, I'll need to give more time to his sister and have a toddler, so I need grammar to be independent. I might begin it before everyone else begins school, so he can adjust to something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenDaisies Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 JAG was written for grades 4-5. We love it. I have found the above comments relating AG to be true for JAG except that JAG has 11 units and JAG Mechanics has 15. JAG teaches diagramming and parsing. Mechanics teaches punctuation, but the books are sold separately so you could just buy JAG. I have found it to be fairly independent. I do a few examples (or play the DVD) and let her do an exercise each day. If she misses any, we do those together the next day and then she does the next exercise. It really doesn't take much time. ETA: I can't speak to JAG being overkill because we have not reached AG, but to me it's perfect because it is so concise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhappyjoyjoy Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I honestly wouldn't mind overkill with L.A. This is the area we need the most work on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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