jillian Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 If you had an accelerated/gifted kiddo who was able to understand deep concepts in science but didn't have the math skills quite yet for high school level math/science how would you approach teaching them? Chronologically they are early elementary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jillian Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Thanks quark :) Do you ever use Khan Academy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jillian Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 We have some, basic kind of bio 101, chem 101, and that sort of thing. I have a feeling lots of algebra will get picked up in the next couple months because I am reviewing it for the GRE (trying to get my phd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hewitt's "Conceptual Physics" doesn't require more than just a very basic level of algebra knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 How cool! All the very best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillian Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Thanks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 We avoid textbooks and instead focus on whole books by specialists in their fields. They can read books discussing topics that way w/o get bogged down in instructional material and problems. There are all kinds of books out there that are fascinating and go into deep levels of discussion w/o being high school or college textbooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 We did/do much the same-lots of trade books, few textbooks. It helps that DD's primary interests seem to lie in field biology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 My son is an app fiend with his iPad. Right now because of his age (9) we cover a lot of the ideas he will need later as foundational concepts. He sees them as games, but in the end he is getting the solid fundamentals to understand conceptually what he hears later. He loves Oresome elements, a free periodic table app that races you to complete the table. Also awesome is K12 Periodic Table which even provides Lewis dot diagrams for some of the elements to show yet another way they are ranked/charted. LeafSnap is awesome for identification of botany, but NatureTap does wildlife as well. Both of those have greatly helped with natural sciences and are free. With NatureTap you can purchase expansions in the different kingdoms, but it provides many birds for free and let's you hear their calls. For biology, iCell is fantastic. It even has a function where you can choose if the language is basic, intermediate, or advanced for every organelle. The images are beautiful as well. Again, that one is free. By using the apps, he can explore and have fun independently for a bit until he knows enough for further info. When I tried the advanced ideas without the fun apps, I was stopping constantly and it was really dragging on. Textbooks were too dry and killed the joy of learning science for him. Once he has a basic understanding (periodic table memorized, basic reaction characteristics, simple bonding) we use The Great Courses audio books. We stop frequently and discuss, so a 30 minute lecture might wind up being a hour, but it still fits in wonderfully with our day and really expands his knowledge of the subject conceptually without a textbook. University of Nottingham has free periodic table elements videos which are very cool. ITunesU has an excellent Biology and Earth Science section on just about anything from astronomy to hydrology. The coloring books were also a great way to expand for not much money. I believe we have biology, anatomy and phys, botany, microbiology, and zoology. They are put out by Harper Publishing and we got them all through Amazon or eBay for under 10 bucks each. They don't skimp on information (they are college level), but you definitely need to follow the process of coloring listed instead of just diving in. If you don't take it step by step it is hard to go back and follow the detailed images. Once you have gone through, you then can see it after the image is colored and read it over and over. YouTube has just about anything you could want but takes a bit of sleuthing. Netflix is also incredible with the selection of documentaries. PBS Nova series is a good winner as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceyshoe Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 We've been down this road, and it's a tough one. My son begged--literally begged me-- for years to go to the next level of science. I bought ds a stack of science encyclopedias and high school science books, and he completed all of Ellen McHenry's science programs. I loved the idea of BFSU, but we could never find the right starting point because my son was pretty obsessed with reading everything he could about science. It hasn't been ideal, but it worked. Now he's connected with a science mentor who understands asynchronous kids, and that has been *amazing*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara H Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 One thing that worked for us in this phase was the Teaching Company's Joy of Science. http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/Courses/course_detail.aspx?cid=1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Texican Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/492610-physics-for-poets-my-attempt-at-a-living-books-approach-to-physics/ Did you see this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Texican Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Bucolic, I know I am late to the party but I have been sick, sick, sick. I am a scientist and a science educator, and have written extensively on this board on the philosophy of teaching science. I have also helped many people develop a detailed plan that will actually work for them. I too like to have some sort of output, but at age 6 you can keep a list of: books she read, books you read to her, documentaries she has watched, and discussions you have had. Then add to the lists: photos of her observing nature/star watching/digging for worms/whatever with a description (written by you) of what you were doing, videos of her 'presentations' about what she has learned, and the 2 pieces of science writing (or whatever) that she has done for the year. Then you make up a nice portfolio and decorate it, and feel very good about yourself. Do NOT sacrifice the joy for documentation! Your main goal is to encourage her love for science. Never loose sight of the goal. Never. Last year when we were supposed to make our disaster recovery plan, I collected all my major science posts. Some are good for younger and some for older students. Hope they are of interest to you and others. I'm happy to answer questions and even help you make a plan that will work for you as the teacher and for your students. Philosophy of teaching science These first 2 threads were really interactive, make sure you read to the end of the first one as it heated up again. The 3rd thread is worth your time to give you the very big picture of goals for science. Science...again...someone shoot me now: http://forums.welltr....=263107&page=9 Evaluating usefulness of lab work, and identifying the goals of science education http://forums.welltr....d.php?t=425932 Developing Advanced Reading Skills: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/467812-developing-advanced-reading-skills/ Plans for other people (this will help you think about your own goals and needs as a teacher in addition to what your student needs) Systematic and Interest led at the same time: post 65 http://forums.welltr....=361740&page=7 Using bigfoot documentaries to seriously study pseudoscience post 21 in http://forums.welltr...ge-science-and/ Learning physics and chemistry under the umbrella of astronomy: http://forums.welltr...astronomy-help/ Creating a plan for your student. post 22 http://forums.welltr....=414500&page=3 and post 2 http://forums.welltr....d.php?t=416977 What questions to ask yourself and your students to arrive at a plan: posts 4, 13,14,18, 23 - 27 http://forums.welltr...e/#entry4513402; all posts in: http://forums.welltr.../#entry4436605; all posts in http://forums.welltr...h/#entry4431909 (for some reason it is reverting to the last post, just go to post #1) Studying biology and earth science by way of gorillas and snakes post 16 in http://forums.welltr...ge-science-and/ Mixed ages for earth sci, chemistry, and physics. Reading focused. http://forums.welltr...p-with-science/ Investigations (We do lab work only once per year, in one 6-10 week project - I fold in language arts and math to make it like 'project based learning', or a unit study) Scientific investigations with my 9 and 12 year old: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/463952-scientific-investigations-with-my-12-and-9-year-old/ Running scientific investigations (week by week for 10 weeks): posts 1 to 60 http://forums.welltr....d.php?t=361740 Shorter examples of scientific investigations: post 47, 48, 54, an 61, 65, 66 (and others on this thread) on http://forums.welltr....=263107&page=5 Easy biology projects http://forums.welltr...e/#entry4459162 Other large posts of mine Physics for Poets: my approach to a living books approach to physics: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/492610-physics-for-poets-my-attempt-at-a-living-books-approach-to-physics/ Answering questions about evolution http://forums.welltr...-and-grow-fins/ Misc Resources I use: post 62 and 64 http://forums.welltr....=361740&page=7 Goals of scientific education: post 83 http://forums.welltr....=263107&page=9 What output is required: post 2 and 9 http://forums.welltr....d.php?t=412041 and post 8 http://forums.welltr....d.php?t=416977 Protecting your student from misinformation about how the scientific method works: post 90 http://forums.welltr....=263107&page=9 Hope that helps! Ruth in NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Texican Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 This was not the one I was looking for. I was looking for the one where she describes a good once a year science fair project, how to teach how to ask a question. That you shouldn't get hung up on guessing the hypothesis. That was way overemphasized in school, but it's not the point of a science project. The hypothesis is supposed to help you refine your question to a more measurable question. So, I was digging through lewlma's pages of posts in that one, but here she's talking directly to a mother of a six yr old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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