clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I knew Regina wouldn't die no matter what they tried to show lol. Why would Tamara and Greg use a portal when they hate magic? Well now we know Mulan and the princess got Phillip back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 T&G's mission seems to be to take/get rid of Henry. Somehow he's the link to magic being in our world. I wonder if T&G are being used, as in they think they're supposed to be getting rid of magic but that's not their real mission. Only they aren't privy to the "real" mission. Which we now know has something to do with Peter Pan. I, too, was excited to see Philip, Aurora and Mulan. It's going to be a long summer. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbeym Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Am I odd to kind of like that they've made Peter Pan to be a bad guy? I really do wonder what his connection to T&G is though. I love how we got to see a little bit of nice-guy Hook again. I wonder now if he and Emma will strike up some sort of relationship next season, since they *think* that Bae has (or will) die. And what will happen when they finally figure out that he hasn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom in High Heels Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I've never been a fan of Peter Pan, so it wouldn't bother me if he's a bad guy. I'm curious as to what he wants with Henry though. Perhaps he's stuck in Neverland and needs to be replaced before he can leave and Henry is somehow the one who can free him (Pan), by taking his place? Mmm....Hook. He's just delicious to look at (and listen to). I want him and Emma together. There's just something about Neil that rubs me the wrong way. Philip, Aurora and Mulan. What a triangle. Aurora and Philip are supposed to be together. Mulan needs to go find Li Shang. Oh, and why did Hook punch Greg? He's got a HOOK for goodness sake. Wouldn't, oh, I don't know, digging it into him, have been more effective in stopping Greg that just punching him? I know it would have changed the plot, but still, it struck me as odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 T&G's mission seems to be to take/get rid of Henry. Somehow he's the link to magic being in our world. I wonder if T&G are being used, as in they think they're supposed to be getting rid of magic but that's not their real mission. Only they aren't privy to the "real" mission. Which we now know has something to do with Peter Pan. I, too, was excited to see Philip, Aurora and Mulan. It's going to be a long summer. :p Peter Pan wants Henry for whatever reason, I don't think he is a link with the magic though, I think he is something else all together. I mean Peter Pan has been hunting him since before he was even born. Maybe he is some answer to a curse in Neverland for some reason? Maybe he can free Neverland from shadow boy/Peter and Peter wants to finish him off? I am kind of sad that everyone is again split up though. I mean it will be all back and forth again. I do not see Gold just leaving Belle forever either. Someone pretty powerful will have to protect that town. I am sure next season we will be going to Neverland, the forest, and Storybrooke which to me will kind of slow things down. I wish Neil would have been sent to Neverland. If the crystal ball can find Golds blood then why wouldn't it show Neil too? You would think they would look for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Am I odd to kind of like that they've made Peter Pan to be a bad guy? I really do wonder what his connection to T&G is though. I love how we got to see a little bit of nice-guy Hook again. I wonder now if he and Emma will strike up some sort of relationship next season, since they *think* that Bae has (or will) die. And what will happen when they finally figure out that he hasn't? Peter can move between our world and Neverland. Wendy knew what happened to Bae maybe at some point she started some organization for Lost Boys? That would be pretty cool. I think Peter Pan is maybe cursed? Maybe Henry can solve everything. I find it very odd they went through the portal with him though. It would seem they wouldn't want too. As soon as they figure out he is alive they will go after him. Maybe Aurora will somehow contact Mary Margeret in that dream place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 I've never been a fan of Peter Pan, so it wouldn't bother me if he's a bad guy. I'm curious as to what he wants with Henry though. Perhaps he's stuck in Neverland and needs to be replaced before he can leave and Henry is somehow the one who can free him (Pan), by taking his place? Mmm....Hook. He's just delicious to look at (and listen to). I want him and Emma together. There's just something about Neil that rubs me the wrong way. Philip, Aurora and Mulan. What a triangle. Aurora and Philip are supposed to be together. Mulan needs to go find Li Shang. Oh, and why did Hook punch Greg? He's got a HOOK for goodness sake. Wouldn't, oh, I don't know, digging it into him, have been more effective in stopping Greg that just punching him? I know it would have changed the plot, but still, it struck me as odd. I was thinking the same thing! I was like WTH rip his throat out! They stopped that demontor black wraith thing and got Phillip back! I was wondering the whole time though why they would send another bad thing threw a portal? I mean didn't they learn their lesson the last time? I think Peter is a curse too. I think Henry is the key to that. Gold said where they were going there was someone way more scary than him Peter? Maybe this somehow leads to his undoing? Maybe to save Henry he has to sacrifice himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom in High Heels Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I just watched it again (cause I'm like that). How amazing is Robert Carlisle as an actor? He can switch his character around in a breath. I'm really wondering what makes Pan so evil. Other than the fact that he steals children, obviously. I can't wait to see how Bae escaped Neverland. I'm assuming he was there for quite a while, since he was dropped off in the late 1800's/early 1900's, but is now approximately Emma's age. Curiouser and curiouser! Now I can't wait for fall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbeym Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree; Robert Carlisle is amazingly talented. I really really hope he doesn't have to sacrifice himself b/c I just love him with Belle and she needs him back. Maybe he'll only have to sacrifice his power as the Dark One? That's my take on the whole prophecy thing about the boy being his undoing. I think Hook had wished he'd ripped them apart with his hook once he found out that Tamara had shot Neal. He obviously cares very much about him even though he did turn Bae over to the Lost Boys. I'm looking forward to Hook and Gold joining forces and working together for a change. Did you hear they've confirmed a Wonderland spinoff? Yay to more Jefferson! :drool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom in High Heels Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree; Robert Carlisle is amazingly talented. I really really hope he doesn't have to sacrifice himself b/c I just love him with Belle and she needs him back. Maybe he'll only have to sacrifice his power as the Dark One? That's my take on the whole prophecy thing about the boy being his undoing. I think Hook had wished he'd ripped them apart with his hook once he found out that Tamara had shot Neal. He obviously cares very much about him even though he did turn Bae over to the Lost Boys. I'm looking forward to Hook and Gold joining forces and working together for a change. Did you hear they've confirmed a Wonderland spinoff? Yay to more Jefferson! :drool: Good theory on the powers and having to give him up. Henry might not be his literal undoing, but only his magical undoing. Interesting. I heard a spinoff was confirmed, but could never find what the spinoff was. Wonderland??? SWEET! I adored Jefferson. I wouldn't mind if Hook got his own spinoff (just so I could look at his prettiness a lot more than I can in OUAT), but I want him and Emma to get together, and since she's the crux of OUAT, I'm guessing that won't happen. She and Hook have chemistry. She has zero chemistry with Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbeym Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 They can send Hook to Wonderland to stay and I'd be more than content. I do want Hook and Emma to get together though. I think we'll see some more action between them next season in their mutual grief. What I wonder though is how the beans make a portal to a specific place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 This episode sort of annoyed me. There were a few things that were just a little too convenient. Mother Superior just happens to create a potion to the lost-memory thing ten minutes before the town is about to be destroyed? Emma can suddenly use magic when she needs to, but it takes everyone else decades to learn? Mr. Gold just happens to have a spell in his pocket to keep the town safe, even though a few minutes before he'd been waiting to die, and for some reason he can't call someone else on his cell to come and get it? Grrrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree; Robert Carlisle is amazingly talented. I really really hope he doesn't have to sacrifice himself b/c I just love him with Belle and she needs him back. Maybe he'll only have to sacrifice his power as the Dark One? That's my take on the whole prophecy thing about the boy being his undoing. I have been wondering if his "undoing" would end up being a good thing, too. Or at least not what he might have been expecting. Like the first prophecy about how what he did the next day would leave his son fatherless. He thought it would mean one thing and it didn't. And without realizing that he was doing so he ended up fulfilling the prophecy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 This episode sort of annoyed me. There were a few things that were just a little too convenient. Mother Superior just happens to create a potion to the lost-memory thing ten minutes before the town is about to be destroyed? Emma can suddenly use magic when she needs to, but it takes everyone else decades to learn? Mr. Gold just happens to have a spell in his pocket to keep the town safe, even though a few minutes before he'd been waiting to die, and for some reason he can't call someone else on his cell to come and get it? Grrrr. Watch that part again. The spell only cloaks the town, it does not save it so it wouldn't have helped with the trigger trying to destroy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Watch that part again. The spell only cloaks the town, it does not save it so it wouldn't have helped with the trigger trying to destroy it. Sorry, I wasn't very clear on that part. I get that the spell wouldn't have saved the town from the trigger, but if Gold was fully expecting to die, how did he come to have a spell to cloak the town conveniently hanging out in his pocket? And why did he have to give it to Belle? Couldn't he have given it to someone else so that Belle could have gone with him to Neverland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Sorry, I wasn't very clear on that part. I get that the spell wouldn't have saved the town from the trigger, but if Gold was fully expecting to die, how did he come to have a spell to cloak the town conveniently hanging out in his pocket? And why did he have to give it to Belle? Couldn't he have given it to someone else so that Belle could have gone with him to Neverland? I believe he thinks undoing means death and he does not want Belle to see him die. I also think when he said where we are going there is someone way scarier than me or whatever he knew he couldn't keep Belle safe. I don't think cloaking the town would have saved it so the spell would have been pretty worthless. You would think though he could have made some sort of bubble or something. Like ok let the town go back to the forest but a safe place for the people like in the Enchanted Forest when Regina started to destroy it. There was a safe spot remember that is how some people didn't die or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 They can send Hook to Wonderland to stay and I'd be more than content. I do want Hook and Emma to get together though. I think we'll see some more action between them next season in their mutual grief. What I wonder though is how the beans make a portal to a specific place? That is what I wanna know too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Good theory on the powers and having to give him up. Henry might not be his literal undoing, but only his magical undoing. Interesting. I heard a spinoff was confirmed, but could never find what the spinoff was. Wonderland??? SWEET! I adored Jefferson. I wouldn't mind if Hook got his own spinoff (just so I could look at his prettiness a lot more than I can in OUAT), but I want him and Emma to get together, and since she's the crux of OUAT, I'm guessing that won't happen. She and Hook have chemistry. She has zero chemistry with Neil. I don't see the Neil thing either! I think Wonderland will have crossover times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanier.1765 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 So is Hook Bae's real father? His reaction to the boy seemed to be more than just revenge on the Dark One and possibly why he returned to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 So is Hook Bae's real father? His reaction to the boy seemed to be more than just revenge on the Dark One and possibly why he returned to help. No. Hook didn't meet Bae's mother till after Bae was born. But Hook loved Bae's mother, and I think would have liked to have thought of him as a son, but Bae blamed Hook for his mother's leaving (even if he didn't end up being responsible for her death). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I really like that Peter Pan is a bad guy. Cool twist! Also, Greg & Tamara work for Peter Pan, although they don't know it, so they're clueless as to why they've really been sent on these missions-supposedly to rid the earth of magic, but really to find Henry. I like that Regina and Emma worked together, and I hope Hook and Mr. Gold will be able to do the same. Man, that Hook...nice eye candy! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 i wonder if peter pan could be the original source of the dark one's dagger? he wants the boy who is foreseen to be the dark one's undoing . . . i think hook is hot but bae is a better man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Yeah, Bae is definitely a better man right now, but perhaps Hook will become the bad boy turned good. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbeym Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Yeah, Bae is definitely a better man right now, but perhaps Hook will become the bad boy turned good. :) A good Hook isn't as exciting as the bad boy Hook though. :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 uh, do you ladies really still believe that bad boys turn good? i've lived that fantasy enough to get TOTALLY over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 A bad boy can turn good...really! But honestly I hope Hook keeps some of his bad boy ways. That's what makes him so appealing to me. ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbeym Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I agree. There's a lot to be said about a bad boy with just a touch of goodness to him. :) Trailer to the new Once Upon a Time in Wonderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom in High Heels Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I agree. There's a lot to be said about a bad boy with just a touch of goodness to him. :) Trailer to the new Once Upon a Time in Wonderland. But, but, but...where was Jefferson????? I only saw a brief glimpse of him from a distance. :crying: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I'm with Mergath on this one. It was all too neat and tidy of an ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 I am not sure how I feel about the spinoff truthfully. I think they may over extend themselves and the storlines get all messed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 So...there will be two separate shows: Once Upon a Time AND Once Upon a Time in Wonderland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 So...there will be two separate shows: Once Upon a Time AND Once Upon a Time in Wonderland? yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbeym Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I am not sure how I feel about the spinoff truthfully. I think they may over extend themselves and the storlines get all messed up I share your concern. I would hate for OUAT to suffer because they're focusing more on Wonderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I share your concern. I would hate for OUAT to suffer because they're focusing more on Wonderland. The season finale did not get that great of viewing so they need to step it up not worry about another show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 When does OUAT in Wonderland start? I don't like this second show idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 When does OUAT in Wonderland start? I don't like this second show idea. this Fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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