5LittleMonkeys Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Would any of you be willing to share the literature that you used along with Speilvogel's Western Civ? I'm using the comprehensive volume, 5th edition. We will be working through it over the coarse of 2 years. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam L in Mid Tenn Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm listening for answers too...... :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melabella Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I just purchased the 6th edition today and am working on a lit list for ancients through middle ages. :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam L in Mid Tenn Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm doing 6th edition too..... but have not had time to really begin planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I have a list for the world history text. Not sure if you'd want that though? I broke it down into two parts, civ 1 and civ 2 to line up with their CLEP study. PM if you're interested and I'll email it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 Just bumping to see if anyone else can chime in. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I have course descriptions for Years 1-3 of a WTM-purist Great Books Study with Spielvogel history correlated with literature. If you want a copy, PM me with your email address and I will send them. We have finished Year 1, are almost done with Year 2, and Year 3 is a draft I'm working on for next fall. I don't have Year 4 done yet, but I was just thinking today about drafting that out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melabella Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I have course descriptions for Years 1-3 of a WTM-purist Great Books Study with Spielvogel history correlated with literature. If you want a copy, PM me with your email address and I will send them. We have finished Year 1, are almost done with Year 2, and Year 3 is a draft I'm working on for next fall. I don't have Year 4 done yet, but I was just thinking today about drafting that out too. WTMCassadra, I just sent you a PM. I would greatly appreciate it if you would send me what you have. I am working on this tonight and am a bit overwhelmed at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Sent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melabella Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughing lioness Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Ds did read part of it this year for history. He read The Fourth Turning, Albert Marrin books and he is watching 100 Years that Shook the World DVD for 20th C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I think I've now sent the files to people who sent PMs. If you don't have the email, let me know. Glad to help so other people don't have to reinvent the wheel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanvan Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Sent! Thanks so much! Very helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Okay, you all inspired me to work on the Year 4 coordination this morning. Year 4 is tricky because much of the literature is so dark and despairing, which I would prefer not to focus on. They have all their lives to be exposed to that stuff. I don't have the editions chosen or anything, but if you'd like the Year 4 history/lit coordination table, PM me and I'll send that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo2 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 WTMCassandra, I PMd you my email. Thanks for offering to share! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I sent them--Year 3 is a draft and Year 4 is REALLY a draft (just the history/lit table, really). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 :hurray: Thank you WTMCassandra! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Did you get all four years? Thanks to you all for motivating me to map out Year 4 too. That will save me a lot of time next spring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 Oh, it looks like you sent me ancients, medieval, and then early modern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I just did the modern history/lit table this morning. I thought I was being efficient so I deleted PMs after I sent each person their copy. Could you PM me again with your email address and I'll send you modern? Love your sig quotation, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Okay, I think I've sent course descriptions to everyone who requested. If you have not received yours, please PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam L in Mid Tenn Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Thanks all! I still did not get time to plan today. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Okay, dd and I went over book lists and read synopses and reviews and came up with a list for next year (Ancients through Middle Ages - Chapters 1-16 of the Western Civ. Comprehensive Volume). I took into account her interest level and time we would have to devote to this. She's doing Chemistry through a tutorial and two maths next year, so some of these selections may end up being read and discuss only; no written analysis\essays. Luckily most of these have units included in Excellence in Literature. :) I'm not educated in ancient\medieval literature so if anyone sees anything glaringly out of place please let me know. The Epic of Gilgamesh The Odyssey Oedipus Rex Julius Caesar Beowulf Canterbury Tales (selections indicated in EiL) Sir Gawain an the Green Knight King Lear Pilgrim's Progress Divine Comedy: Inferno The Prince Faust Finish out the year with Shakespeare's comedies - Twelfth Night, A Midsummer Night's Dream, Much Ado About Nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 These are all great choices, but IMHO, it is a LOT of titles. We were able to manage 1-2 titles per chapter, meaning roughly 1-2 titles per month. Now, I do require an essay on just about all of the ones I do, but that's still a heavy load if they are doing the Spielvogel exercises also. That's why I end up pacing for hours to come up with my lists--I have to be careful not to overload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmama Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 You have five Shakespeare plays there (assuming those are the Julius Caesar and King Lear you list). Do you want that many? What about some shorter works of poetry? You could include "The Dream of the Rood" and "Parable of the Christ Knight," as well as some medieval lyrics found in any anthology of western literature in your library system. That would help you pull in more works from other nations, too; your medieval list is very heavy on British lit. If you wanted to bring in some female authors, look for lyric poetry by Hildegard of Bingen and Christine de Pizan. "Lanval" by Marie de France is a short Arthurian story which might be a good addition, and you can find it translated into both verse and prose. Do you want to bring in any works from the Arabic world? 1001 Nights has been very influential in western literature; prereading might be desirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 These are all great choices, but IMHO, it is a LOT of titles. We were able to manage 1-2 titles per chapter, meaning roughly 1-2 titles per month. Now, I do require an essay on just about all of the ones I do, but that's still a heavy load if they are doing the Spielvogel exercises also. That's why I end up pacing for hours to come up with my lists--I have to be careful not to overload. You have five Shakespeare plays there (assuming those are the Julius Caesar and King Lear you list). Do you want that many? What about some shorter works of poetry? You could include "The Dream of the Rood" and "Parable of the Christ Knight," as well as some medieval lyrics found in any anthology of western literature in your library system. That would help you pull in more works from other nations, too; your medieval list is very heavy on British lit. If you wanted to bring in some female authors, look for lyric poetry by Hildegard of Bingen and Christine de Pizan. "Lanval" by Marie de France is a short Arthurian story which might be a good addition, and you can find it translated into both verse and prose. Do you want to bring in any works from the Arabic world? 1001 Nights has been very influential in western literature; prereading might be desirable. Thank you for these suggestions. I will go back and cut some of these...i have no idea how long some of these will take to read so did think we might have to skip or just listen to an audio book of a few and move on. Right off the bat I'll take out King Lear and Twelfth Night though. I like the idea of adding 1001 Nights and some poetry but will have to cut a few other selections to make room for them. It's hard to make a list that thoroughly represents the time period being studied and offers enough material to constitute an English credit without going overboard...can you tell i've never done this before. :p Okay, I'll go re-work the list and come back with a revision later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo2 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thank you SO much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMCassandra Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 5LittleMonkeys: Yes, you are wise to trim it a bit. This is why I pace for hours over every one of those history/lit tables. I have to be so very, very choosy because time is limited. All: Thanks for all of the interest in the course descriptions. I think I'm caught up (again) on sending them out. When I get Years 3 and 4 completely finished, perhaps I should throw the files up on a blog somewhere for easier access. I didn't realize they would be so popular! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmama Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 If you want to cut something to add in selections from 1001 Nights and the shorter poetry I suggested, just cover one Shakespeare comedy. You could start the next year with another couple of his plays, if you want to cover more. If things are taking too long by the time you get to The Inferno, save The Prince for a government class later. If time is too short when starting Faust, skip it and move on to the Shakespeare comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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