WillametteMom Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'm thinking about Sunshine Daydream -- she's the 2012 AARS Winner. I seldom buy roses that aren't fragrant, but I'm a sucker for buttery yellows. I'm also thinking about Sugar Moon (white hybrid tea). As soon as it warms up, I'll be heading out to Heirloom Roses to wander through their gardens and scout out other ideas. Anyone else want to share their 2012 plans? I'm dreaming of spring (even though it's been snowing here in the Pacific NW). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 You just had to bring up buying more roses, didn't you? Sigh...I have five baby Republic of Texas roses that need to go in the ground somewhere before I bring home new ones. I know where I'd like them, but it means establishing a new bed. I just don't think there are the funds or the energy for that right now. I'm generally an antique rose girl myself. I keep an ever changing list of wants going from the Antique Rose Emporium online catalog. My biggest want right now is something richly fragrant...tea roses, which do fantastic in my climate, just don't have that old garden rose scent I crave. I cherish the stinky roses I already have. Off to drool over rose photos at ARE.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I just planted a Double Delight in the empty space where I pulled out something I hated. My rose garden is now complete. Hopefully. Although there is a yellow rose in there that just isn't pulling its weight in the bouquets whose days may be numbered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I'm mostly into Heritage roses myself, but I love that a rose is named for a Greatful Dead lyric (I assume). Anyone else thinking "Creamery Show" Veneta Oregon 1972? :D My current project is to finish a split-rail fence with arbors to support some classic old yellow French Tea-Noisettes, including: Maréchal Niel, Chromatella, Reve d'Or and Bouquet d'Or. The roses of the moment are my four Gloire de Dijons whose blooms absolutely breathtaking. What a beautiful rose! I'm looking forward to spring. Happy planting! :001_smile: Bill Edited March 1, 2012 by Spy Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I just planted a Double Delight in the empty space where I pulled out something I hated. My rose garden is now complete. Hopefully. Although there is a yellow rose in there that just isn't pulling its weight in the bouquets whose days may be numbered! That's like saying you have all the books you need.:tongue_smilie: I just don't think it's possible. YOu may be out of space, but complete is such a final word. ;) There are so many lovely old garden roses out there. Me...I just start planting elsewhere in the yard...eventually we build a bed around the roses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 You just had to bring up buying more roses, didn't you? Sigh...I have five baby Republic of Texas roses that need to go in the ground somewhere before I bring home new ones. I know where I'd like them, but it means establishing a new bed. I just don't think there are the funds or the energy for that right now. I'm generally an antique rose girl myself. I keep an ever changing list of wants going from the Antique Rose Emporium online catalog. My biggest want right now is something richly fragrant...tea roses, which do fantastic in my climate, just don't have that old garden rose scent I crave. I cherish the stinky roses I already have. Off to drool over rose photos at ARE.... Do you like White roses? The Tea Mademoiselle de Sombreuil (not to be confused with the Wichuraiana climber know as Sombreuil) has IMO a very nice scent from the Bourbon side of its lineage. I'm crossing my fingers that this is the year for mine to go from "creep" to "leap." ARE has ONE (1) in stock. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenangelcat Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I want Music Box but new plants aren't in the budget this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSurprise Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I have no roses. I live in the north (zone 4b) and have a lot of partial shade/full shade. Any suggestions? I'd love to have a few, but can't guarantee full sun...the tomatoes already need to be grown in buckets on the back porch. Links to newbie education sites welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Speaking of roses--anyone have suggestions for insanely hardy ones? I have yellow and copper foetida roses and I'd love to find others that could survive here. We're talking Zone 3 here, guys! Have you heard of "Buck roses?" They were bred by Dr Griffith Buck to survive harsh winters. I have no first-hand experience (being from la-la land) but they have a good reputation. Some of the older once blooming European roses (Albas, Damasks, and Gallicas might work). They are beautiful roses, but hard to grow here for lack of "chill." Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetMissMagnolia Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 probably--I usually end up buying at least 1 new rose every year or so....the yard is in desparate need of color---wish I could get someone to come decorate my yard for me......... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebo Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I would love to buy another Pink Gruss an Aachen, because I love my first one so. And I've got a Heritage that needs to go in the ground. But, I would love to find a good enough spot that I can finally get a tea rose to thrive. I don't know why they don't seem to like it in my yard :confused1:. I'm determined to try again, though. Maybe another try at Duchesse de Brabant or Mrs. B. R. Cant.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Have you heard of "Buck roses?" They were bred by Dr Griffith Buck to survive harsh winters. I have no first-hand experience (being from la-la land) but they have a good reputation. Some of the older once blooming European roses (Albas, Damasks, and Gallicas might work). They are beautiful roses, but hard to grow here for lack of "chill." Bill I'm in zone 7b, so no help for the upper zones, but I LOVE my Buck roses. My favorite is Carefree Beauty, sometimes known as Katy Rose Pink. Mine throws flamboyant pink roses all summer. The spring flush is outstanding. I've got another Buck, but I can't recall the name at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Do you like White roses? The Tea Mademoiselle de Sombreuil (not to be confused with the Wichuraiana climber know as Sombreuil) has IMO a very nice scent from the Bourbon side of its lineage. I'm crossing my fingers that this is the year for mine to go from "creep" to "leap." ARE has ONE (1) in stock. Bill I have the wrong one, lol. Or I have the one that should be known as White something or other. (Chemo brain is alive and well in my head....) No scent. My Sombreuil (which I got during an actual visit to ARE a few years ago) is a climber with wicked thorns, a lazy attitude, and truly gorgeous blooms. I'm thinking of shovel pruning her and starting over. She graces, with little enthusiasm, the white metal arch at the entrance to my white garden. Need something there with more oomph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I have the wrong one, lol. Or I have the one that should be known as White something or other. (Chemo brain is alive and well in my head....) No scent. My Sombreuil (which I got during an actual visit to ARE a few years ago) is a climber with wicked thorns, a lazy attitude, and truly gorgeous blooms. I'm thinking of shovel pruning her and starting over. She graces, with little enthusiasm, the white metal arch at the entrance to my white garden. Need something there with more oomph. You have the Wichuraniana climber (related to New Dawn) called Sombreuil. It is thorny and NOT a Tea rose, but it was mistakenly sold as a Tea for years. It was also sold as Colonial White. The "real" Tea rose is now called Mlle de Sombreuil. Both are good roses. I have 12 of the climbers (Sombreuil) growing out front. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenangelcat Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Speaking of roses--anyone have suggestions for insanely hardy ones? I have yellow and copper foetida roses and I'd love to find others that could survive here. We're talking Zone 3 here, guys! I had a gorgeous rugosa and a couple of the explorer roses when I was in zone 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 That's like saying you have all the books you need.:tongue_smilie: I just don't think it's possible. YOu may be out of space, but complete is such a final word. ;) There are so many lovely old garden roses out there. Me...I just start planting elsewhere in the yard...eventually we build a bed around the roses. :D I like your philosophy! So far I've just stuck with the popular tea roses. There's one decent spot in the yard that gets full sun to grow them. Otherwise, we've got lots and lots of shade trees (we get hot summers). I'm very much a novice when it comes to growing roses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yes: two David Austin roses, both fragrant. Harlow Carr and Wild Edric. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 You have the Wichuraniana climber (related to New Dawn) called Sombreuil. It is thorny and NOT a Tea rose, but it was mistakenly sold as a Tea for years. It was also sold as Colonial White. The "real" Tea rose is now called Mlle de Sombreuil. Both are good roses. I have 12 of the climbers (Sombreuil) growing out front. Bill I will be changing these out. I wanted the Mlle de Sombreuil...Miss Witchy will have to go...Wanna come hassle those thorns with me???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I will be changing these out. I wanted the Mlle de Sombreuil...Miss Witchy will have to go...Wanna come hassle those thorns with me???? It makes my rose friends crazy when I say it (so I often do :D) but I think good prickles give a rose character. Sombreuil is a great grower and bloomer here, and usually quite fragrant (not always). And is is quite rare in private gardens. It is a keeper here. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 :D I like your philosophy!So far I've just stuck with the popular tea roses. There's one decent spot in the yard that gets full sun to grow them. Otherwise, we've got lots and lots of shade trees (we get hot summers). I'm very much a novice when it comes to growing roses. Do you mean Tea roses, or Hybrid Tea roses? The latter are the typical modern roses one is likely to find at a nursery. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoVanGogh Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 It makes my rose friends crazy when I say it (so I often do :D) but I think good prickles give a rose character. A man after my own heart. :D I have 100+ antique/heirloom roses. I would love to squeeze a few more in, but will have to see what the nurseries have in stock. Sadly, my favorite "mom and pop" garden center switched from selling only own-root antique roses to - gasp! - landscaping roses last year. :glare: I would love to road trip down to Antique Rose Emporium. :D I'm in zone 7b, so no help for the upper zones, but I LOVE my Buck roses.I am in 8a, but am in love with Buck roses. Quietness and Folksinger are my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 A man after my own heart. :D I have 100+ antique/heirloom roses. I would love to squeeze a few more in, but will have to see what the nurseries have in stock. Sadly, my favorite "mom and pop" garden center switched from selling only own-root antique roses to - gasp! - landscaping roses last year. :glare: I would love to road trip down to Antique Rose Emporium. :D What are some of the heritage roses you grow? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoVanGogh Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Anna de Diesbach (a favorite and one I would like to plant a few more of) Baroness Rothchild Comte de Chambord Paul Neyron Felicia Natchitoches Noisette (a 'found' Noisette) Sombreuil Maggie (another 'found' rose) Zepherine Druihin Duchese de Brabant Veilchenblaue Buff Beauty Madame Berkeley Safrano Monsieur Tillier Autumn Damask LaMarque Lady Hillington Mmle Franziska Krueger Jeanne d'Arc Madame Caroline Testout Blush Noisette Isabella Sprunt Newer ones I grow/love: Perle d'Or Mrs. RM Finch Green Ice (mini that does great in my garden, unusual color) Radiance Pink Radiance Dr. Eckner Katharina Zeimet Lafter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Anna de Diesbach (a favorite and one I would like to plant a few more of)Baroness Rothchild Comte de Chambord Paul Neyron Felicia Natchitoches Noisette (a 'found' Noisette) Sombreuil Maggie (another 'found' rose) Zepherine Druihin Duchese de Brabant Veilchenblaue Buff Beauty Madame Berkeley Safrano Monsieur Tillier Autumn Damask LaMarque Lady Hillington Mmle Franziska Krueger Jeanne d'Arc Madame Caroline Testout Blush Noisette Isabella Sprunt Newer ones I grow/love: Perle d'Or Mrs. RM Finch Green Ice (mini that does great in my garden, unusual color) Radiance Pink Radiance Dr. Eckner Katharina Zeimet Lafter Oh, I want to come visit your gardens. I have a few on your list. Obiviously, I'm behind in my collecting. DH will be so pleased to hear that. :tongue_smilie: I mostly do antiques with a few well done hybrids. Nothing too modern except the one and only Pioneer rose--Republic of Texas--that the folks at ARE bred. I'll have to get my garden journal and list them... Two of my Old Blush roses have blooms on them today...spring has begun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillametteMom Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Suzanne, we extended our fence recently and I am thinking I have just the right spot now to add Zephirine Drouhin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoVanGogh Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Oh, I want to come visit your gardens.I might be in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I might be in your area. I'm north of Fort Worth a bit. Are we neighbors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillametteMom Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Thanks for sharing, everyone! I always get so antsy this time of year, I can't wait to dig in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Do you mean Tea roses, or Hybrid Tea roses? The latter are the typical modern roses one is likely to find at a nursery. Bill :blushing: that would be hybrid tea, I guess. I told you I was an amateur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Anna de Diesbach (a favorite and one I would like to plant a few more of)Baroness Rothchild Comte de Chambord Paul Neyron Felicia Natchitoches Noisette (a 'found' Noisette) Sombreuil Maggie (another 'found' rose) Zepherine Druihin Duchese de Brabant Veilchenblaue Buff Beauty Madame Berkeley Safrano Monsieur Tillier Autumn Damask LaMarque Lady Hillington Mmle Franziska Krueger Jeanne d'Arc Madame Caroline Testout Blush Noisette Isabella Sprunt Newer ones I grow/love: Perle d'Or Mrs. RM Finch Green Ice (mini that does great in my garden, unusual color) Radiance Pink Radiance Dr. Eckner Katharina Zeimet Lafter Nice list! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 :blushing: that would be hybrid tea, I guess. I told you I was an amateur. No worries. Tea roses were the predecessors of Hybrid Teas. Teas, which were once quite popular—but had faded largely into obscurity—are really beginning to make a comeback in warm regions where they grow so well. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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