StephanieZ Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 On another current LA thread, someone asked about literature suggestions to go along with MCT LA. I was thinking it would be great to have a list of authors/books cited/quoted/alluded to/etc in the various MCT levels. It could be fun to choose some of them for reading that year (or prior years). . . If anyone knows of such a list already created, please post a link or post it here!! Until/unless someone posts a comprehensive link. . . anyone want to help post lists? I'll start with the Town level. . . I'll put * by ones that seem to be referenced quite heavily. And a - by ones that seem noticably minor. Paragraph Town Moby Dick, Melville (* major references) Leaves of Grass, Whitman (- minor reference) Walden Pond, Thoreau Gettysburg Address, Lincoln Wind in the Willows, Grahame Alice in Wonderland, Carroll The War of the Worlds, Wells Tale of Two Cities, Dickens Ceasar's English 1 Leaves of Grass, Whitman Peter Pan, Barrie * Commentaries on the Gallic Wars, Julius Ceasar Dr. Jekylls & Mr. Hyde, Stevenson Last of the Mohicans, Cooper Tom Sawyer, Twain The Canterbury Tales, Chaucer (I stopped at p.13 b/c I am out of time! There are tons of them in this one!!) Grammar Town: none Practice Town: ? none (skimmed only) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiobrain Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 There is a graphic novel of Moby Dick. I think it is illustrated by Eisner. You could always use that type of method to cover some of the more difficult novels. I am a big fan of using the graphic novel as a learning tool. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenNC Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 There is a graphic novel of Moby Dick. I think it is illustrated by Eisner. You could always use that type of method to cover some of the more difficult novels. I am a big fan of using the graphic novel as a learning tool. :D You and my daughter must be soul mates :D She will read *anything* if it's in graphic novel format! I never did manage to get entirely through Moby Dick myself, I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny_Weatherwax Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I'll join in- Essay Voyage Charles Dickens - A Tale of Two Cities; David Copperfield J.M. Barrie - Peter Pan Charles Montaigne - Of the Education of Children F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby Kenneth Grahame - Wind in the Willows Ralph Waldo Emerson - The American Scholar Jane Austen - Emma Harriet Beecher Stowe- Uncle Tom's Cabin Abraham Lincoln - The Gettysburg Address; letter to Mrs. Lydia Bixby; 2d Inaugural Address Edgar Allen Poe - The Philosophy of Composition Joseph Conrad - Heart of Darkness Jonathan Swift - Gulliver's Travels Alexander Hamilton - The Federalist Papers, #6 Thomas Jefferson - Declaration of Independence James Boswell - Biography of Samuel Johnson Henry David Thoreau - Walden Marjorie Kennan Rawlings - The Yearling George Orwell - Politics and the English Language Thomas Paine - Common Sense Thornton Wilder - The Bridge of San Luis Rey Stephen Crane - The Red Badge of Courage John Adams - XYZ Affair Joseph Conrad - Lord Jim Thomas Hardy - Jude the Obscure Benjamin Franklin - Autobiography Ulysses S. Grant - The Personal Memoirs of U.S. Grant Richard Wright - Native Son Herman Melville - Billy Budd Frederick Douglass - Narrative of Frederick Douglass John Miur -Douglas Squirrel, Sciurus Douglasii Edith Wharton - Ethan Frome Emily Bronte - Wuthering Heights Jack London - White Fang John F. Kennedy - Profiles in Courage Robert Louis Stevenson - Kidnapped Theodore Roosevelt - Autobiography This list does not include the minor references with the text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancer67 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 This is SO helpful, thank you!!! I am doing Town and I was going to sit down and go through the Lit that is mentioned. YAHOO, now I have it right here. Passing a big:grouphug: to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny_Weatherwax Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) WWW1 (complete) F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby Herman Melville - Moby Dick James Joyce - A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man Harper Lee- To Kill a Mockingbird Eudora Welty - One Writer's Beginnings M. Barrie - Peter Pan Joseph Conrad - Lord Jim; Heart of Darkness John Hersey - Hiroshima Rachel Carson - Silent Spring Martin Luther King - Why We Can't Wait Emily Bronte - Wuthering Heights Sir Walter Scott - Ivanhoe William Makepeace Thackeray - Vanity Fair Joseph Heller - Catch-22 Henry James - The American Charles Dickens - David Copperfield; Great Expectations H.B. Stowe- Uncle Tom's Cabin Charlotte Bronte - Jane Eyre Frederick Douglass - Narrative Marjorie K. Rawlings - The Yearling Maya Angelou - I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings Aldous Huxley - Brave New World H. D. Thoreau - Walden T.S. Eliot - Murder in the Cathedral Nathaniel Hawthorne - The Scarlet Letter; The House of the Seven Gables Upton Sinclair - The Jungle Washington Irving - The Legend of Sleepy Hollow J.F.K. - Profiles in Courage James Hilton - Lost Horizon George Orwell - 1984; Animal Farm H.G. Wells - The Invisible Man; War of the Worlds Jane Austen - Pride and Prejudice; Emma John Knowles - A Separate Peace Bram Stoker - Dracula E.L. Doctrow - Ragtime Jack London - White Fang; The Call of the Wild Toni Morrison - Song of Solomon Mark Twain - The Prince and the Pauper Mary Shelly- Frankenstein Robert Louis Stevenson - Treasure Island; Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde John Milton - Paradise Lost Walt Whitman - Leaves of Grass Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray James Watson - The Double Helix Thomas Hardy - The Return of the Native; The Mayor of Casterbridge Mary Wollstonecraft - Vindication of the Rights of Women Ralph Ellison - Invisible Man Kate Chopin - The Awakening Kenneth Grahams - The Wind in the Willows Benjamin Franklin - Autobiography John Gardner - Grendel William Shakespeare - Othello; The Tempest Virginia Wolfe - Mrs. Dalloway Ernest Hemingway - The Old Man and the Sea Neville Shute - On the Beach James Baldwin - Go Tell It on the Mountain Kate Wiggin - Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm Natalie Babbit - Tuck Everlasting William Golding - Lord of the Flies Alfred Lansing- Endurance Eugene O'Neill - Long Day's Journey into Night Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - The Hound of the Baskervilles Esther Forbes - Johnny Tremain Stephen Crane - The Red Badge of Courage Edith Wharton - Ethan Frome James Fennimore Cooper - The Last of the Mohicans Daniel Defoe - Robinson Crusoe William Faulkner- As I Lay Dying Jonathan Wyss - The Swiss Family Robinson (in translation) Edited April 2, 2010 by The Dragon Academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariannNOVA Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 On a different note, I am preparing a list of RFWP novels from their website and how they can be used in conjunction with our other subjects - literature across the curriculum, so to speak. I will try to find the thread where I began doing this and post it here. It is a work in progress, but very ehlpful for me as otherwise, those titles would sit and I would have no direction as to where to use them. Below is a list of what I have so far. We are reading JULIETTA - I selected this as a novel for dd 5th grade as literature with her History Odyssey Middle Ages work, but we are doing it as a read aloud as the twins (3rd grade) LOVE the story as well. Here are the others (we are reading JULIETTA and one other right now - I get :willy_nilly: if we have more than two read alouds going on simultaneously. I have given the links to other RFWP titles below that I have purchased or will be purchasing as I plan for summer and the new school year. http://www.rfwp.com/0890.htm (reading right now) - Harly Weaver (I selected this b/c we are seriously impressing upon all three children the discipline and responsibility involved in playing a sport) http://www.rfwp.com/2621.htm Ordering this to use with Medieval History in 4th grade curric for coming school year. TALES FROM MERRIE ENGLAND I AND II http://www.rfwp.com/9007.htm (Ordering this simply b/c I am baseball fanatic and I collected BB cards when I was a kid -it will probably be a read aloud.) THE T-206 HONUS WAGNER CAPER http://www.rfwp.com/1609.htm (Ordering for all three to use as Literature when studying this time period in History) TRAPPED! http://www.rfwp.com/4632.htm (Ordering as Lit to be read when studying Civil War) WAR COMES TO MADELINE http://www.rfwp.com/3733.htm (Ordering for Lit for WWII History Study) WE HAVE TO ESCAPE http://www.rfwp.com/6393.htm (Ordering for Lit for Civil War Study) YOUNG HEROES OF THE CIVIL WAR http://www.rfwp.com/6416.htm A WILL OF HER OWN (Link to a review if you follow my link) - shakespeare, elizabethan - dd will be reading this within a month or two http://www.rfwp.com/1064.htm CASSIE'S WAR (WWII) http://www.rfwp.com/4969.htm CHARLIE BOY (1890s) http://www.rfwp.com/3105.htm THE EERIE CANAL - (1829) Will do as a read aloud for the 4th grade twins http://www.rfwp.com/3105.htm GLASS INHERITANCE (WWII) I have many more on my list to order, but I am too exhausted to do any more on here tonight. Basically, I go by GRADE, click the link on the RFWP website to the Grades I am planning, and read down looking for novels (which are marked as such), read the description, click the longer description, and determine if this book will become part of our plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuovonne Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I'll play. Here's what I found in the first half of Grammar Island: - Treasure Island (Jim Hawkins, Long John Silver, Robert Louis Stevenson) - Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats by T. S. Eliot (Grizzlebones) - Three stooges (Larry, Moe, Curly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny_Weatherwax Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Okay, ladies, I played along with two of the books and you can see that the lists are rather long. The references in The Magic Lens Vol. 1 are just as numerous. The easiest way to see the titles that MCT uses throughout the Language Arts program would be to buy Classics in the Classroom. The books are not referenced by MCTLA level but the CitC list is comprehensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen500 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Okay, ladies, I played along with two of the books and you can see that the lists are rather long. The references in The Magic Lens Vol. 1 are just as numerous. The easiest way to see the titles that MCT uses throughout the Language Arts program would be to buy Classics in the Classroom. The books are not referenced by MCTLA level but the CitC list is comprehensive. :iagree: And there are some broad age recommendations with each book. Not all the books mentioned in the MCT books are books my dc are ready to read. Moby Dick, for example. (I think MCT mentions this...that some of the quotes are from books they might read in the future. Just getting them some familiarity.) I do wish the list of books in Classics in the classroom was also listed by age range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachel_rfwp Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 This is so cool.. we are so pleased that you 'get' the idea of how the novels can help and enhance your studies in other areas. We took a great deal of trouble to cross-reference several hundred novels we have in print so that you can search in the website by grade level,subject, and/or geographical area, as well as by author and title. Enjoy! Rachel On a different note, I am preparing a list of RFWP novels from their website and how they can be used in conjunction with our other subjects - literature across the curriculum, so to speak. I will try to find the thread where I began doing this and post it here. It is a work in progress, but very ehlpful for me as otherwise, those titles would sit and I would have no direction as to where to use them. Below is a list of what I have so far. ....... I have many more on my list to order, but I am too exhausted to do any more on here tonight. Basically, I go by GRADE, click the link on the RFWP website to the Grades I am planning, and read down looking for novels (which are marked as such), read the description, click the longer description, and determine if this book will become part of our plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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8filltheheart Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 While I think quoting selections from great literature is appropriate for elementary level children, I would urge caution in approaching many of these books in their entirety. The lists include all books that I believe educated people should have read at some point; yet, the themes of several are not appropriate for younger kids. (There is no way I would introduce Conrad's works to an elementary level child! Nor Lord of the Flies, nor the Scarlett Letter, etc) Even if a child was able to completely understand the story, the social significance underlying books like Frankenstein would be lost on a child. FWIW.......my oldest kids have read most of the titles, but most not until ages 13+. I'm not quite sure what the numbers are in Michele's posts. At first I thought they were grade level references, but it is impossible that Moby Dick would rate 4th grade reading level and Scarlett Letter post- high school. Are those chpt references within the text themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiobrain Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 While I think quoting selections from great literature is appropriate for elementary level children, I would urge caution in approaching many of these books in their entirety. The lists include all books that I believe educated people should have read at some point; yet, the themes of several are not appropriate for younger kids. (There is no way I would introduce Conrad's works to an elementary level child! Nor Lord of the Flies, nor the Scarlett Letter, etc) Even if a child was able to completely understand the story, the social significance underlying books like Frankenstein would be lost on a child. FWIW.......my oldest kids have read most of the titles, but most not until ages 13+. I'm not quite sure what the numbers are in Michele's posts. At first I thought they were grade level references, but it is impossible that Moby Dick would rate 4th grade reading level and Scarlett Letter post- high school. Are those chpt references within the text themselves? First of all, this is an old thread. :) I too, am not sure what the numbers refer to... However, I don't think anyone is suggesting that these should be read by 4th graders. MCT uses passages from classic lit. to explain vocab word usage in context of actual writing. He mentions, quotes and gives author info on all the books mentioned above, in his elementary texts. He is not expecting you to have your kids read them right then... he wants to expose them to the idea of great literature, the titles and authors and some passages at a young age. I know that my 10 yo wants to read both Moby Dick and Lord of the Flies, due to his exposure through MCT. I, however, know that is not a good idea. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embassy Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I know that my 10 yo wants to read both Moby Dick and Lord of the Flies, due to his exposure through MCT. I, however, know that is not a good idea. :D What is there in Moby Dick that is not good for a 10 year old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 First of all, this is an old thread. :) However, I don't think anyone is suggesting that these should be read by 4th graders. MCT uses passages from classic lit. to explain vocab word usage in context of actual writing. He mentions, quotes and gives author info on all the books mentioned above, in his elementary texts. He is not expecting you to have your kids read them right then... he wants to expose them to the idea of great literature, the titles and authors and some passages at a young age. I didn't realize this thread was old b/c I responded to Michele's which was posted today. :tongue_smilie: But, the OP of the thread did specifically mention creating the lists to pick some of them to read: I was thinking it would be great to have a list of authors/books cited/quoted/alluded to/etc in the various MCT levels. It could be fun to choose some of them for reading that year (or prior years). . That is why I posted what I did. Quotes in isolation demonstrate the qualities of timeless literature. That is not the same as exposing them to the actual work. ;) Future years would be a wonderful objective, though! FWIW.....my high schoolers would gladly give their copies of MD to your children! I love MD and make my kids read it. My older 2 ds's both detested it. I always told them that should feel a sense of victory after reading an entire chapter defining the word "white." They accomplishment is completely lost on them! My dd, OTOH, will be reading it this yr. For her, I am going to have to encourage to not cry about the slaughtering of the whales or pucking when she reads about how they actually get the whale oil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 What is there in Moby Dick that is not good for a 10 year old? MD is not an exciting adventurous tale about pursuing a whale. It is written in very Romantic language (as in stylistic writing of the time period, not love). It is a tough read when you are older. Many parts of the book would not hold the attention or even be understood by a 10 yr old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 :lurk5: What a great thread. How did I miss it before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) I completely missed this thread as well. We have done numerous lists like this over the past year, but it is primarily to show someone considering MCT the level and quality of literary works used for examples and analysis. Even though this thread is old, I am glad 8FilltheHeart made the point she did. The purpose of the lists on this thread is not clear. My first impression was the same as 8's; that it is a recommended reading list to go with the various MCT levels. As Jen tried to point out, this is not MCT's intention. The works are used for exposure, not mastery. ETA: I would hate to have a potential MCT user panic thinking those were reading lists or try to overwhelm a child with works they are not developmentally ready for. Korin, Swimmer Dude asked me about almost each novel we encountered. I had to give a summary (sanitized in some cases). I thought I was doing quite well; however, at the end, he turned to me and said, "You aren't very well read are you Mom?" According to his calculations, I could only tell him about roughly 60% of the works.:tongue_smilie: 8FilltheHeart, I know as someone once said that half the literary allusions belong to the Bible and the other half to Moby Dick, but you know, Melville has other novels. White Jacket. I love that book and Melville's humor is so sly. The opening chapter is one of my favorites. Just a thought. Edited June 10, 2010 by swimmermom3 Addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StephanieZ Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Awesome contribution Michele!! I started this thread as a long term project, and I am glad it was refreshed. I think it could be very helpful. Of course, many works would not be the best choice for young children, but plenty of them are quite appropriate for some children (Peter Pan is quoted a lot in Town!) Also, childrens' ages will vary when they do the various levels. . . My dd13 did Town this year and will read Lord of the Flies in the coming year, so. . . Anyway, I think this is very handy and I'll save Michele's Town list for reference when my little does Town in a few years. . . I sure wish someone would do a Michele style list for Voyage. . . as we're doing Voyage in the fall and I don't want to buy it 4 mos in advance just so I can scope out reading list ideas. . . But, I might very well do that b/c I love the idea of bringing in at least a few titles. . . Thanks again Michele! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 The numbers are approximate reading level off of the Scholastic Site: http://bookwizard.scholastic.com/tbw/homePage.do Ok, Michele, I understand what you did. Just wanted to point out that that site is not giving you RL based on the original works for some of the titles. I didn't go through them all, but I knew there was no way that MD would rate any where near a 4th grade level. It is an adaptation that is giving that RL. Same with Robinson Crusoe and Frankenstein. (those were the only 3 I checked. Most of the titles listed are inappropriate for below a high school reading level if read in the original form. There are a few titles that are fine for younger kids, but the vast majority are not.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Music of the Hemispheres: In many cases you get fragments of the poems rather than the complete poem. Also, the Dickinson poems were numbered differently than in the collection I have. Some of the ? are notes I was making to myself as I was trying to find the poems in my Norton anthologies :) Emily Dickinson XXXIII (33) ; XLVII (47) ; CXXVI (126) Shakespeare Romeo & Juliet, Macbeth , Sonnet 73 , Sonnet 27 , Sonnet 30 , The Taming of the Shrew , A Midsummer Night's Dream Carl Sandburg Splinter Percy Shelley The Cloud Robert Burns Afton Water ; John Anderson, My Jo ; A Red Red Rose William Blake The Tiger Thomas Hardy The Darkling Thrush Ralph Waldo Emerson Brahma A. E. Housman To an Athlete Dying Young William Butler Yeats The Lake Isle of Innisfree William Wordsworth I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud John Keats On First Looking into Chapman's Homer Dylan Thomas ?p93, p98 (Fern Hill) - Norton p1571 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Charge of the Light Brigade Aristotle The Poetics Rupert Brooke ? P126 "The Soldier" Christina Rossetti ? P144 "My heart is like a singing bird" Sylvia Plath TG: p145 - The Moon and the Yew Tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Awesome contribution Michele!! I started this thread as a long term project, and I am glad it was refreshed. I think it could be very helpful. Of course, many works would not be the best choice for young children, but plenty of them are quite appropriate for some children (Peter Pan is quoted a lot in Town!) Also, childrens' ages will vary when they do the various levels. . . My dd13 did Town this year and will read Lord of the Flies in the coming year, so. . . Anyway, I think this is very handy and I'll save Michele's Town list for reference when my little does Town in a few years. . . I sure wish someone would do a Michele style list for Voyage. . . as we're doing Voyage in the fall and I don't want to buy it 4 mos in advance just so I can scope out reading list ideas. . . But, I might very well do that b/c I love the idea of bringing in at least a few titles. . . Thanks again Michele! Stephanie, did you see Dragon Academy's list for Essay Voyage on here? Or did you want reading levels to go with the mentioned works? Or were you looking for the works in Caesar's English II? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieZ Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Stephanie, did you see Dragon Academy's list for Essay Voyage on here? Or did you want reading levels to go with the mentioned works? Or were you looking for the works in Caesar's English II? Oh, I must have missed that post! TY!! I will go back and save it!!! (No, I'm not worried about the RL that much. . . I think I can guess or look them up myself if I am interested in a particular book.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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