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Now that TOG has released all of year 4 books, I am looking at the literature selections for next year. It would help me a bunch if I could keep the boys together. I'm definitely doing rhetoric level history for the 8th grader. He is doing unit 3 with no problem right now. He is also a voracious reader. He read my unabridged Tom Sawyer and we all watched Ken Burn's documentary on Mark Twain and he decided he wanted to read Huck Finn. Yesterday, he had completed 2/3 of the novel in 2 days along with answering all the questions I had from my teaching days. He kept "sneaking" and doing that instead of his other subjects, so rhetoric level literature won't be any trouble to read. The Literature they have chosen for next year is interesting in several ways and I am combining the dialectic and rhetoric a little as well as adding some that I taught in high school. How would this look for the literature section of English:

 

Unit 1

All Quiet on the Western Front

Animal Farm

The Cherry Orchard

O Henry short stories

Poetry of Frost

 

Unit 2

Lord of the Flies

The Chosen by Chaim Potok(I'm not familiar with this one, but it sounded interesting and TOG spends 3 weeks on it, which means it must be meaty.)

Great Gatsby

Our Town

Old Man and the Sea

The Pearl

 

Unit 3- I need some help here.

The Crucible

To Kill a Mockingbird

Langston Hughes poetry

 

I haven't read Farenheit 451 or Sidharta which are the other rhetoric selections. I have read Waiting for Godot and remember thinking, weird. The dialectic literature is Homeless Bird, My Side of the Mountain, Onion John and Lilies of the Field. I haven't read any of those either. Could you suggest one or two of these or maybe something different for high school level.

 

Unit 4

Hobbit

A Separate Peace

Maya Angelou poetry

Science Fiction unit: I, Robot; Citizen of the Galazy, and Have Space Suit Will Travel

 

Thanks everyone.

Christine

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I am doing Y4 next year as well. I just read All Quiet... and it is a good book, but it is very graphic and I realize that is the author's point. For my girls though, I think the images would be entirely too strong, so I will be substituting. If you don't have a particularly sensitive reader it would prob. be fine.

Also my dh read Siddartha and he felt the sexuality of the book was pretty strong so I will substitute for that one too.

That is just for our kids and our situation.

I also, will be mixing in some dialectic (Lord of the Flies) and looking more closely at some of their alternatives for rhet.

My Side of the Mountain would probably be too light and I haven't read the others you mentioned.

hth

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I read this book last summer. Enjoyed it. I would give it a look. It's hard to find good non-fiction. The people he meets are interesting. The book is easy to read. Short.

 

Towards the end it deals with racism in the South from a Northern perspective. He narrates that experience differently. That experience has a different effect on him. His shift uncovers his purpose IMO. His technique is worth a discussion or two. (At least THAT's what I took away from my first quick reading of it. I'll have to revisit the book this summer to be sure. :001_smile:) I'm looking forward to reading it with my kids. ;)

 

It might fit well with your U3 plans on the Civil Rights Movement.

 

Peace,

Janice

 

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I have All Quiet on my shelf, so I will read it again. The unit 4 selections were strange. Marcia said that there is no definition for "classic" after 1975 and they also wanted to keep it clean. My boys couldn't believe they chose Raising Dragons for dialectic. They love that series and the author came and gave a writing class that was REALLY good. So, I don't really want to use that. She said they chose the Hobbit because there wasn't enough time to do LOTR. Well, my boys have already read those several times anyway and the Hobbit a couple of times, though they haven't "studied" them. I added in A Seperate Peace because I taught that to 10th graders and even though they got mad at the characters of the book, the themes of jealousy, friendship and competition speak to boys in particular.

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I read this book last summer. Enjoyed it. I would give it a look. It's hard to find good non-fiction. The people he meets are interesting. The book is easy to read. Short.

 

Towards the end it deals with racism in the South from a Northern perspective. He narrates that experience differently. That experience has a different effect on him. His shift uncovers his purpose IMO. His technique is worth a discussion or two. (At least THAT's what I took away from my first quick reading of it. I'll have to revisit the book this summer to be sure. :001_smile:) I'm looking forward to reading it with my kids. ;)

 

It might fit well with your U3 plans on the Civil Rights Movement.

 

Peace,

Janice

 

Enjoy your little people

Enjoy your journey

 

Thanks. I was also considering Roll of Thunder, Hear my Cry

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The unit 4 selections were strange. Marcia said that there is no definition for "classic" after 1975

 

I thought they were a bit strange also. Thanks for including what Marcia said about 'classic'. This is a tough year lit. wise. The girls are not very pleased with many of the selections. hmm... off to ponder.

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Yes, normally the literature is written in the time period. However, they had a problem with unit 4. First of all, Marcia said that there hasn't been enough time for the critics to determine a "classic" written after 1975. Then there is the problem with trying to find something clean enough to read. Hence they chose the HObbit and Isaac Asimov and the other science fiction.

 

I looked at my Sonlight catalogue for core 300 and have some interesting choices. First of all they also have the Metamorphosis and TOG has that as rhetoric in unit 1, so maybe I should put that back in and drop the O Henry short stories. I haven't read it, so I didn't know. Other ones that they have are that sound like possiblities are: Alas Babylon, Cry the Beloved Country, The Snow Goose (listed in TOG's dialectic choices for unit 2 which is already pretty full, but if it is in both it must be good!) Two that were new last year which look really interesting are:

 

The Wave by Strasser: A history teacher tests the power of peer pressure, his experiment gains frightening momentum beyond his control. two students. Laurei and David realize they must stop a dangerous movement before it's too late. Let this sobering drama, based on actual events, spark thoughtful discussion with your family

 

The Wednesday Wars by Schmidt. Holling is a 7th grade boy forced to spend Wednesday afternoons dissecting Shakespeare with his teacher who, he is certain, "hates his guts." You'll grow with him through the uroars of adolescence and 1960 culture as Holling realizes that he can choose the life he wants.

 

The other thing is that I have them do the church history component every year so they read tons of biographies (normally a mix of rhetoric and dialectic). This year they will read biographies about (not in order) Billy Sunday, Brother Andrew, Gladys Alward, Jacob Deshazer, Joni, Eric Liddel, Mother Teresa, and Dietrick Bonhoeffer. They will also read The Hiding Place and Screwtape letters which to me are literature as well. The 10th grader will read Concise Theology: A Guide to Historic Christian Beliefs, Light Force, Modern Reivalism, Nee's The Normal Christian Life, The Universe Next Door and a World Religions book. He REALLY loves the theology readings. He adored The Civil War as a Theological Crisis this year, but I hated it and found it dull reading. He thought it was interesting. I've never given credit for this. I just thought it was extra and important, but this is an awful lot. Maybe 1/2 a credit??

 

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The Wave by Strasser: A history teacher tests the power of peer pressure, his experiment gains frightening momentum beyond his control. two students. Laurei and David realize they must stop a dangerous movement before it's too late. Let this sobering drama, based on actual events, spark thoughtful discussion with your family

 

The Wednesday Wars by Schmidt. Holling is a 7th grade boy forced to spend Wednesday afternoons dissecting Shakespeare with his teacher who, he is certain, "hates his guts." You'll grow with him through the uroars of adolescence and 1960 culture as Holling realizes that he can choose the life he wants.

 

Honestly, these are the types of "issue" books our ps forces on kids in middle school. I can't stand them. Ymmv. There's just so much that's better.

 

looked at my Sonlight catalogue for core 300 and have some interesting choices. First of all they also have the Metamorphosis and TOG has that as rhetoric in unit 1, so maybe I should put that back in and drop the O Henry short stories. I haven't read it, so I didn't know. Other ones that they have are that sound like possiblities are: Alas Babylon, Cry the Beloved Country, The Snow Goose

 

Alas is great, Cry is beautiful and so profound, and the Snow Goose is quite a quick read about WWII. All are books that could be read in 2 weeks or less--of course, you could go deeper.

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I was also going to recommend Cry, the Beloved Country from Core 300. Alas, Babylon was really good, too.

 

As far as a recent "classic", I might suggest, "The Help" by Kathyrn Stockett. This book just came out about 1 year ago, and it is just fantastic. The topic is early 60s Mississippi, and it is about the interaction between black maids and their white employers. It's very well done and thought-provoking on a lot of levels. I thought it somewhat similar to "To Kill a Mockingbird".

 

We also enjoyed The Kite Runners, about Afgahnistan and the Taliban, but this one has a mature theme and some violence.

 

If "The Help" doesn't turn out to be a good choice for your students, you'll love it anyway.

 

HTH,

Brenda

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I read it about 25 years ago, so it's not that fresh in my memory. I remember insinuations but nothing explicit. (please tell me if there is something that I've forgotten).

 

The reason I suggest it is because there is so little about Africa in most of the lit lists. And Things Fall Apart does convey a bit about how society functions (the author is Nigerian).

 

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Jumping in late with a few thoughts below. Hope something here is of help. BEST of luck as you plan your 20th Century lit. year! Warmly, Lori D.

 

 

- All Quiet on the Western Front

Preview. We did this last year with our (then) 15yo and 16yo boys and they were pretty stunned by this book. Beautifully written, but VERY intense, emotionally very hopeless/depressing, graphic violence. I would NOT do this book with anyone younger than what we did, and if you have a sensitive child, not until 12th grade.

 

- Lord of the Flies

Preview. Powerfully written portrayal of man's fallen nature seen through shipwrecked children reverting to primitive savagery. Another work that might be best for 11th-12th grade.

 

- The Crucible

Preview. Themes of attempted adultry through seduction; repressed female sexuality. I passed on this play for us.

 

- Whatever plays you do, I'd actually recommend actually attending the theater or watching filmed versions of the works. Plays are meant to be experienced rather than read. We just watched The 2003 version of Our Town starring Paul Newman and enjoyed it very much, and had some good discussion afterwards using a lit. guide.

 

- Almost all of the works you list for Unit 2 are depressing or existential -- I'd definitely lighten that unit up a bit.

 

- Cry the Beloved Country is an achingly beautiful and poignant novel, but would probably be better appreciated in late high school years.

 

 

Here are some alternate / additional suggestions for you:

 

1900-1925

- Story of My Life (Keller) -- American; autobiography of Helen Keller

- Penrod (Tarkington) -- American; comic sketches of pre-WW1 life

- The Good Earth (Buck) -- life of a family over several decades in turn of the century China

- A Day of Pleasure (Singer) -- European; autobiographical sketches; pre-WW1 Jewish ghetto in Poland (we did this with 8th/9th graders -- perfect!)

- "Metamorphosis" (Kafka) -- European; short story

- "The Monkey's Paw" (Jacobs) - British; short story

- "The Most Dangerous Game" (Connell) -- American; short story

- "Bride Comes to Yellow Sky" (Crane) -- American; short story

- "Gift of the Magi" (Henry) -- American; short story

 

 

 

1925-1950

- Animal Farm (Orwell) -- British; novella; biting satire of political states

- Life With Jeeves (Wodehouse) -- British; collection of 3 short novels; comic look at foppish/bubble-headed upper class of the 1920s

- My Family and Other Animals (Durrell) - British; humorous novel; autobiographical antics of an eccentric British family living on a small Greek island

- To Kill a Mockingbird (Lee) -- American; novel; while there are themes of racism, threat of lynching, and a man falsely accused of rape all is handled tastefully; a 10th gr. could certainly do this book, as well as a mature 8th grader

- The Hiding Place (TenBoom) -- European; ; inspiring autobiography of Dutch Christian family who hid Jews in WW2 and were sent to Ravensbruck

- Father Brown mysteries (Chesterton) -- British; classic mystery short stories

- "The Catbird Seat" (Thurber) -- American; humerous short story

- "The Lottery" (Jackson) -- American; short story

 

 

1950-1975

- Farenheit 451 (Bradbury) -- American; novel

- The Lord of the Rings (Tolkien) -- British; trilogy; fantasy classic

(or the "prequil" novel The Hobbit if you don't have time for the trilogy)

- I Heard the Owl Call My Name (Craven) - American; short novel; written/set in late 1960s; beautiful and poignant story of a young priest slowly accepted by the Canadian Native American tribe he is sent to

- Warriors Don't Cry -- American; autobiography of the first black students to integrate a Deep South high school

- I Am David (Holm) -- European; young adult novel; a boy escapes 1950s/60s communist camp and makes his way across Europe to find home

- "There Will Come Soft Rains" (Bradbury) -- American; short story; classic post-atomic war sci-fi

 

 

1975-present

- Sophie's World (Gaarder) -- European; novel; unusual blend of both a novel and a basic introduction to various philosophies

- Earthsea trilogy: Wizard of Earthsea; Tombs of Atuan; The Farthest Short (LeGuin) -- American; classic fantasy; if you only have time for one, you could read the first or second novel, as each could stand alone

- The Giver (Lowry) -- American; young adult novel; classic tale of a utopian world that turns out to be flawed

- The Day They Arrested the Book -- American; young adult novel; this is not what I'd call a classic, but definitely worth reading for the discussion it generates about censorship

- House of Stairs (Sleator) -- young adult sci-fi novel; not quite a classic, but a chilling look at behavior modification used on teens

- Enchantress from the Stars (Engdahl) -- young adult novel; not quite a classic, but interesting concept of culture clashes

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The 10th grader will read Concise Theology: A Guide to Historic Christian Beliefs, Light Force, Modern Reivalism, Nee's The Normal Christian Life, The Universe Next Door and a World Religions book. He REALLY loves the theology readings. Maybe 1/2 a credit??

 

Christine

 

 

Sounds like you've definitely got the makings of a credit there for "Readings in Worldviews" or "Comparative Religons (or Philosophies)" or similar course title!

 

 

Last year we did 20th Century history, and instead of trying to do lit to match (too depressing!) we made our own course: "Worldviews in Sci-Fi and Gothic Literature" and did the following works:

 

- Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (Stevenson) -- (written 1880s) Christian; can't separate inborn sin nature

- Frankenstein (Shelley) -- (written 1820s) Romanticism; Gothic

- The Time Machine (Wells) -- (written 1890s) Evolution; Socialism

- Animal Farm (Orwell) -- Communism

- The Giver (Lowry) -- utopia/dystopia

- Brave New World (Huxley) -- utopia/dystopia

- Farenheit 451 (Bradbury) -- loss of literacy, rise of the image

- A Canticle for Leibowitz (Miller) -- post apocalyptic world; the self-destructive cycle of man & power vs. the role of the church in preserving culture, knowledge

- short stories from Cosmicomics (Calvino) -- existentialism

- Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Adams) -- absurdism

 

 

Brave New World is not for everyone, but can be done with mature students. Canticle for Leibowitz is incredibly rich; you could try it with a younger student, but they might miss a lot; some language and brief sexual innuendo in Hitchhiker's Guide.

 

 

You might also like to consider these for a sci-fi unit:

- War of the Worlds (Wells) -- classic; written at end of 1800s

- On the Beach (Shute) -- post-atomic war story

- Foundation (Asimov) -- not the best writing, but Asimov is the "A" of the ABC's of sci-fi writers (Bradbury and Clark are the B and C)

- Jurassic Park (Chrichton) -- NOT a classic, but brings up great science ethics questions

- Ender's Game (Card) -- not quite a classic, but raises questions on the ethics of war

 

BEST of luck as you make your lit. list! Warmly, Lori D.

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Lori, THANK you SO much. I mades some comments.

 

- All Quiet on the Western Front

Preview. We did this last year with our (then) 15yo and 16yo boys and they were pretty stunned by this book. Beautifully written, but VERY intense, emotionally very hopeless/depressing, graphic violence. I would NOT do this book with anyone younger than what we did, and if you have a sensitive child, not until 12th grade.

It is on my shelf, so I will definitely read it this summer before I decide.

- Lord of the Flies

Preview. Powerfully written portrayal of man's fallen nature seen through shipwrecked children reverting to primitive savagery. Another work that might be best for 11th-12th grade. I read this myself in 9th and taught it to my 10th graders, so I think it will be ok.

 

- The Crucible

Preview. Themes of attempted adultry through seduction; repressed female sexuality. I passed on this play for us. Grin..One of my favorite plays. So many great themes..what does your name mean? The boys already watched the Daniel Day Lewis film version and loved it. We did it when we studied about the Salem Witch Trials last year. It was a great springboard for talking about the difficulties of marriage and temptation etc. We had a great discussion of how he should never, ever have been alone with Abigail.

 

- Whatever plays you do, I'd actually recommend actually attending the theater or watching filmed versions of the works. Plays are meant to be experienced rather than read. We just watched The 2003 version of Our Town starring Paul Newman and enjoyed it very much, and had some good discussion afterwards using a lit. guide. Boy, I agree here absolutely. I did the same thing when we studied Shakespeare last year. We watched Hamlet, Much Ado, Romeo and Juliet, Julius Caesar, etc. I didn't know about the OUr Town version. I will definitely put it in my Netflix box.

 

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Here are some alternate / additional suggestions for you:

 

1900-1925

- Story of My Life (Keller) -- American; autobiography of Helen Keller

- Penrod (Tarkington) -- American; comic sketches of pre-WW1 life

- The Good Earth (Buck) -- life of a family over several decades in turn of the century China

- A Day of Pleasure (Singer) -- European; autobiographical sketches; pre-WW1 Jewish ghetto in Poland (we did this with 8th/9th graders -- perfect!)

- "Metamorphosis" (Kafka) -- European; short story TOG Has it in unit 1. I think I'm putting it back in since Sonlight has it as well.

 

I taught all of these short stories to my 10th graders. This is a really good idea to do some shorter works!! Thanks.

- "The Monkey's Paw" (Jacobs) - British; short story

- "The Most Dangerous Game" (Connell) -- American; short story

- "Bride Comes to Yellow Sky" (Crane) -- American; short story

- "Gift of the Magi" (Henry) -- American; short story

 

 

 

1925-1950

- Animal Farm (Orwell) -- British; novella; biting satire of political statesIn my unit 1 list

- Life With Jeeves (Wodehouse) -- British; collection of 3 short novels; comic look at foppish/bubble-headed upper class of the 1920s

- My Family and Other Animals (Durrell) - British; humorous novel; autobiographical antics of an eccentric British family living on a small Greek island

- To Kill a Mockingbird (Lee) -- American; novel; while there are themes of racism, threat of lynching, and a man falsely accused of rape all is handled tastefully; a 10th gr. could certainly do this book, as well as a mature 8th grader Already there in unit 2

- The Hiding Place (TenBoom) -- European; ; inspiring autobiography of Dutch Christian family who hid Jews in WW2 and were sent to Ravensbruck They will be reading this already as part of church history. I was wondering if I could count this as literature as well.

- Father Brown mysteries (Chesterton) -- British; classic mystery short stories My boys devoured my entire set of Agatha Christie and every Sherlock Holmes story last year (not assigned...just for fun), so this may be great for them.

- "The Catbird Seat" (Thurber) -- American; humerous short story

- "The Lottery" (Jackson) -- American; short story

 

 

1950-1975

- Farenheit 451 (Bradbury) -- American; novel On my shelf, I will have to reread it.

- The Lord of the Rings (Tolkien) -- British; trilogy; fantasy classic

(or the "prequil" novel The Hobbit if you don't have time for the trilogy)Yep, boys have read this 3 or 4 times already for fun.

- I Heard the Owl Call My Name (Craven) - American; short novel; written/set in late 1960s; beautiful and poignant story of a young priest slowly accepted by the Canadian Native American tribe he is sent to

- Warriors Don't Cry -- American; autobiography of the first black students to integrate a Deep South high school

- I Am David (Holm) -- European; young adult novel; a boy escapes 1950s/60s communist camp and makes his way across Europe to find home I just pulled this one off my shelf yesterday and wondered if it would work as literature. I love this story.

- "There Will Come Soft Rains" (Bradbury) -- American; short story; classic post-atomic war sci-fi

 

 

1975-present

- Sophie's World (Gaarder) -- European; novel; unusual blend of both a novel and a basic introduction to various philosophies

- Earthsea trilogy: Wizard of Earthsea; Tombs of Atuan; The Farthest Short (LeGuin) -- American; classic fantasy; if you only have time for one, you could read the first or second novel, as each could stand aloneMy boys love fantasy. I'll definitely have to find this at the library or used book store.

- The Giver (Lowry) -- American; young adult novel; classic tale of a utopian world that turns out to be flawed Another book on my shelf that I will have to pull out. I've actually never read this one.

- The Day They Arrested the Book -- American; young adult novel; this is not what I'd call a classic, but definitely worth reading for the discussion it generates about censorship

- House of Stairs (Sleator) -- young adult sci-fi novel; not quite a classic, but a chilling look at behavior modification used on teens

- Enchantress from the Stars (Engdahl) -- young adult novel; not quite a classic, but interesting concept of culture clashes

 

Thanks again for taking so much time. These are great suggestions!!!!

 

Christine

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Thanks so much. I'll make some comments

Sounds like you've definitely got the makings of a credit there for "Readings in Worldviews" or "Comparative Religons (or Philosophies)" or similar course title!

 

 

Last year we did 20th Century history, and instead of trying to do lit to match (too depressing!) we made our own course: "Worldviews in Sci-Fi and Gothic Literature" and did the following works:

 

- Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (Stevenson) -- (written 1880s) Christian; can't separate inborn sin naturer read this year

- Frankenstein (Shelley) -- (written 1820s) Romanticism; Gothicread this year

- The Time Machine (Wells) -- (written 1890s) Evolution; Socialism They are starting the Invisible Man next week..

- Animal Farm (Orwell) -- Communism

- The Giver (Lowry) -- utopia/dystopia MM.. 2nd person to recommend this one and it is on my shelf. I will pull it off and read it.

- Brave New World (Huxley) -- utopia/dystopia

- Farenheit 451 (Bradbury) -- loss of literacy, rise of the image

- A Canticle for Leibowitz (Miller) -- post apocalyptic world; the self-destructive cycle of man & power vs. the role of the church in preserving culture, knowledge

- short stories from Cosmicomics (Calvino) -- existentialism

- Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Adams) -- absurdism

 

 

Brave New World is not for everyone, but can be done with mature students. Canticle for Leibowitz is incredibly rich; you could try it with a younger student, but they might miss a lot; some language and brief sexual innuendo in Hitchhiker's Guide.

 

 

You might also like to consider these for a sci-fi unit:

- War of the Worlds (Wells) -- classic; written at end of 1800s

- On the Beach (Shute) -- post-atomic war story

- Foundation (Asimov) -- not the best writing, but Asimov is the "A" of the ABC's of sci-fi writers (Bradbury and Clark are the B and C)

- Jurassic Park (Chrichton) -- NOT a classic, but brings up great science ethics questions My 7th grader just finished reading this one for fun. The book was so much better than the movie!!!!!

- Ender's Game (Card) -- not quite a classic, but raises questions on the ethics of war

 

BEST of luck as you make your lit. list! Warmly, Lori D.

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ME:

- The Crucible

Preview. Themes of attempted adultry through seduction; repressed female sexuality. I passed on this play for us.

 

YOU:

Grin..One of my favorite plays. So many great themes..what does your name mean? The boys already watched the Daniel Day Lewis film version and loved it. We did it when we studied about the Salem Witch Trials last year. It was a great springboard for talking about the difficulties of marriage and temptation etc. We had a great discussion of how he should never, ever have been alone with Abigail.

 

 

Christine: You're making me rethink the Crucible! One I'll see if I can do for me over the summer. Thanks! Warmly, Lori D.

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